UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

[CoverMeCagney]

tbh if he hadnt lied about meeting her...I think maybe he would have had a lot better chance of winning but once he did the Emily Matisse interview he was on a hiding to nothing although even at that point...he could have told the truth whatever it is.

The royals should NOT do TV interviews. Diana, Harry, Andrew… didn’t work out well for any of them.

 

[LietKynes]

Virginia’s lawyer Mr Boies has said she would unlikely accept a “purely financial settlement” to end her sexual assault civil lawsuit against the royal. Andrew’s statement of regret for the harm caused her is as close to an apology as she will get I guess.

I thought she was holding out for her 'day in court' ?
Even if it meant losing ?
Imo.

 

[LietKynes]

It would be an absolute mistake for Queen to get involved!

Negative PR.

I agree.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Well, if this is not an admission of PA's guilt, then I don't know what is.

It seems his lawyers' dream team, after failing every "technicality" they could think of, eventually hit a brick wall.

Well done Virginia!
Best luck to you and your Charity!!!

While the non-lawyer side of me might agree with you, the lawyer side of me does not.

Litigation is costly. He's probaby settled for less that what the cost of litigation would have been.

 

[tedtink]

I thought she was holding out for her 'day in court' ?
Even if it meant losing ?
Imo.

Boies did say...... 'That said, if you had a settlement that was large enough to be, in effect, a vindication, then it's something we would obviously look at."

 

[Kristin Esq.]

VG chose to accept the settlement. No one forced her to accept.

In law, thankfully, you need proof.

The settlement does not mean PA is guilty nor does it mean he is innocent.

It simply means the case is over, VG did settle.

There is no guilt or innocense in civil cases - liable or not liable.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Boies did say...... 'That said, if you had a settlement that was large enough to be, in effect, a vindication, then it's something we would obviously look at."

Oh that doesn’t come across well, does it. Holding out for more and more money.

What an ugly mess.

 

[tedtink]

I agree.

The Queen will weather this storm if she is helping fund her son - She's like teflon - This will cause ripples but it won't stick, she's too respected by most.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

VG had to accept the terms of settlement I believe.

PA could only make an offer of settlement.

VG accepted, case closed.

She didn't have to accept any terms of settlement.

 

[SouthAussie]

I think it is a good settlement.

VG's charity will get a big boost.

PA looks guilty as all heck.

The Royal Family will get some reprieve from the constant negative media, especially during a Jubilee year when it is a time for respect and celebration for a long-reigning Queen.

 

[UK Girl]

While the non-lawyer side of me might agree with you, the lawyer side of me does not.

Litigation is costly. He's probaby settled for less that what the cost of litigation would have been.

from the sums quoted in the media previously about his legal bills hes actually going to be saving money now even if these figures are correct ( between 7-12 million)

 

[CoverMeCagney]

She didn't have to accept any terms of settlement.

I assume JDG means the contractual legalities of offer and acceptance, rather than that Virginia had no choice in the matter. She must have formally accepted the offer in order for it to be legally binding.

 

[investikater]

Am I allowed to do my I told you so dance?

Virginia Giuffre ‘unlikely to accept purely financial settlement’ with Prince Andrew | Prince Andrew | The Guardian

 

[tedtink]

"Quite what happens to the Duke's role in the ongoing FBI investigation remains to be seen.
It is worth remembering that the US authorities still want to speak to him as a witness to Jeffrey Epstein and his accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell's crimes, and US prosecutors appear to have revelled in making a public example of him. This settlement will arguably do nothing to stop that."

Prince Andrew may have escaped a trial – but he’ll never come out of this smelling of roses

 

[UK Girl]

I think it is a good settlement.

VG's charity will get a big boost.

PA looks guilty as all heck.

The Royal Family will get some reprieve from the constant negative media, especially during a Jubilee year when it is a time for respect and celebration for a long-reigning Queen.

It depends how you look at it...hes not admitted any guilt and could be said he did it to so it went away for Jubilee year. Also it will mean he can go to his dads memorial now. I guess Virginia is happy as she has a settlement although she made it plain previously she wanted her day in court and not money...so...result for them all i guess

 

[Cool Cats]

I think it is a good settlement.

VG's charity will get a big boost.

PA looks guilty as all heck.

The Royal Family will get some reprieve from the constant negative media, especially during a Jubilee year when it is a time for respect and celebration for a long-reigning Queen.

Yup. And now the Royal Family won't have to worry about what doofus remarks Andrew might say under oath at his previously scheduled deposition on March 10th.

His previous interview would not have given them any confidence in his statements under oath.

It's all in the dust bucket now.

 

[UK Girl]

"Quite what happens to the Duke's role in the ongoing FBI investigation remains to be seen.
It is worth remembering that the US authorities still want to speak to him as a witness to Jeffrey Epstein and his accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell's crimes, and US prosecutors appear to have revelled in making a public example of him. This settlement will arguably do nothing to stop that."

Prince Andrew may have escaped a trial – but he’ll never come out of this smelling of roses

But Maxwell has had her trial and Epstein is dead...they have only ever said they wanted to speak to him as a witness

 

[SouthAussie]

It depends how you look at it...hes not admitted any guilt and could be said he did it to so it went away for Jubilee year. Also it will mean he can go to his dads memorial now. I guess Virginia is happy as she has a settlement although she made it plain previously she wanted her day in court and not money...so...result for them all i guess

He doesn't have to admit guilt. When there is a settlement, public perception is generally that a person/corporation has guilt that they don't want on public display.

imo

 

[UK Girl]

He doesn't have to admit guilt. When a person "settles", public perception is generally that a person/corporation has guilt that they doesn't want on public display.

perhaps...i can understand other reasons though...for his mum and her special year..to save on legal bills..so he can try and join in certain things ie the memorial...so it just goes away. In his case...probably because he was worried about the deposition also.

 

[SouthAussie]

perhaps...i can understand other reasons though...for his mum and her special year..to save on legal bills..so he can try and join in certain things ie the memorial...so it just goes away. In his case...probably because he was worried about the deposition also.

Yes. Understood.

I don't think that will sway public perception though. I think most of us expect people to fight to the end if they are innocent of what they are being accused of (even though that is not always the case).