UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980338297978101811

 

[otto]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980338297978101811

When one party is suing another party, isn't it normal legal practice for both parties to try to dig up dirt on each other? I'm not convinced that Andrew's legal response to a lawsuit is all that unusual.

 

[JDG]

When one party is suing another party, isn't it normal legal practice for both parties to try to dig up dirt on each other? I'm not convinced that Andrew's legal response to a lawsuit is all that unusual.

And, is it illegal to ASK if they can check out the other party??

Wouldn’t it only be illegal if an officer checked for information against the regulations and how would that be Prince Andrew’s fault?

IMO, one should able to ask for information, it’s up to the authorities to decline.

 

[JDG]

Some of the papers are trying to put different spins on this story just to increase their revenue.

The DM often does this with a money maker, rightly or wrongly.

IMO, MOO etc.

 

[tedtink]

When one party is suing another party, isn't it normal legal practice for both parties to try to dig up dirt on each other? I'm not convinced that Andrew's legal response to a lawsuit is all that unusual.

There was no lawsuit in 2011.
PR instructed a tax payer funded bodyguard to investigate VG two days before the photo of them together was published in 2011.
VG sued PR in 2021.

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[Inthedetails]

There was no lawsuit in 2011.
PR instructed a tax payer funded bodyguard to investigate VG two days before the photo of them together was published in 2011.
VG sued PR in 2021.

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Andrew lost his honors, but I'm bestowing Timeline Superkeeper on you. It's official.

jmopinion

 

[tedtink]

Andrew lost his honors, but I'm bestowing Timeline Superkeeper on you. It's official.

jmopinion

No sweat

 

[otto]

There was no lawsuit in 2011.
PR instructed a tax payer funded bodyguard to investigate VG two days before the photo of them together was published in 2011.
VG sued PR in 2021.

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Thank you! That would mean that Andrew was given advance warning that the photo would be published, and his immediate reaction was to try to obtain information that would discredit Virginia Giuffre. When that failed, he denied that he knew her, and attempted to discredit the photo.

 

[tedtink]

Thank you! That would mean that Andrew was given advance warning that the photo would be published, and his immediate reaction was to try to obtain information that would discredit Virginia Giuffre. When that failed, he denied that he knew her, and attempted to discredit the photo.

Well, not exactly a denial, he said he had no recollection of ever meeting VG.

Prince Andrew: Key moments from his famous Newsnight interview

The prince was interviewed in 2019 about his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein by BBC Newsnight's Emily Maitlis.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980545617181954557

"Shadow Justice Secretary Robert Jenrick has said
it is disgusting that taxpayers are subsiding him to live in a 30-room mansion with his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson
when he should be paying £200,000 a year.

It came after yet another shocking twist in the royal-Epstein scandal
when it emerged last night
he hasn't paid rent on his palatial property for 22 years.

Andrew had to carry out £7.5million of refurbishment work when he took the property on in 2003.
He was given a 75-year lease in return for a one-off payment of £1million.

His rent was believed to be upwards of £260,000 a year,
with a legal requirement to keep the property in a good state of repair.

However, sources at Windsor say the house is a virtual 'money pit' and there have long been claims Andrew has been struggling with its upkeep."



To be continued...

 

[Snoopster]

ITV interview with Amy Wallace (Virginia Guiffre's ghostwriter)... So good! She's classy, knowledgeable and confident.
She did give a not to King Charles, and I didn't agree with that, but otherwise she was calling it as she knew it.

 

[Snoopster]

I am old. I remember thinking that Prince Andrew was good looking (especially compared to his older brother, Charles!). Now I just see a slimy predator. He was given so much (admittedly in a non-normal family situation) and yet this is how he chose to live.

 

[Andreee]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980545617181954557

"Shadow Justice Secretary Robert Jenrick has said
it is disgusting that taxpayers are subsiding him to live in a 30-room mansion with his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson
when he should be paying £200,000 a year.

It came after yet another shocking twist in the royal-Epstein scandal
when it emerged last night
he hasn't paid rent on his palatial property for 22 years.

Andrew had to carry out £7.5million of refurbishment work when he took the property on in 2003.
He was given a 75-year lease in return for a one-off payment of £1million.

His rent was believed to be upwards of £260,000 a year,
with a legal requirement to keep the property in a good state of repair.

However, sources at Windsor say the house is a virtual 'money pit' and there have long been claims Andrew has been struggling with its upkeep."

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To be continued...

So glad my British parents and I left the UK for Canada early on in my life! Most of my relatives still live in England and I doubt they are 'for' all that the extended royal family gets. IMO 'prince' Andrew and his ex-wife could get a small abode without household help and live much more modestly, for the sake of the British taxpayers. I am not against king Charles and his son William, there is a place IMO for them as basically diplomats for England and in a sense ambassadors, plus the fact that tourism due to the royals and their history brings in money, but otherwise...

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980942552023925103

 

[Forest_Wood]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980942552023925103

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Who the heck is Sarah Margaret Ferguson?!!! Her name is meaningless.
MOO

 

[MrsWatson]

 

[Andreee]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980942552023925103

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Good grief what next with this family lol?

 

[Dotta]

Good grief what next with this family lol?

Surprise, Surprise...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980615156066369810

 

[tedtink]

Good docu if it's available to you.

No access outside UK

 

[otto]

It seems like many are enjoying their 15 minutes of fame to declare that Andrew, who has never been charged with a crime, has caused a national crisis equal to the drunk driving death of Lady Diana. I'm not seeing it.

Should Andrew be evicted from his home, exiled to another country (if one would take him)? Should the government remove titles that are already in abeyance? Is Andrew's long known history with Epstein the most important crisis in the UK today?


"I hold no torch for the quondam Duke of York. Best leave that to Fergie. He seems to encapsulate everything our society detests in one podgy lump: boorishness, entitlement, arrogance.

Yet, I hesitate to ask, what exactly is his “crime”? Whatever the truth about what happened between Andrew and the sad, lost Virginia Giuffre, anyone who associated with Jeffrey Epstein is a poor judge of character, but the deceased financier rubbed shoulders with half the Davos set. Should they all suffer opprobrium? Prince Air Miles stuck by Epstein after his first prison sentence. Naive, not criminal. If a friend of mine went to jail, I might stick by them, too.

As Ernest Hemingway might almost have said, the former Falklands “hero” has fallen from grace slowly, then all of a sudden. So it was that, on Friday, the Windsors announced he will stop using all his titles. Still, however, the crowd are baying for more, demanding harsher punishment be meted out on the banned old Duke of York. There are calls for him to be prosecuted for asking the cops for dirt on Ms Giuffre: his muck-raking biographer has discussed the prospect on breakfast TV. There’s the suggestion he be turfed out of Royal Lodge, his home for 21 years. And, perhaps most preposterously, that he – and Sarah Ferguson for good measure – be exiled from his country of birth.

In what Thomas Macaulay would have described as one of Britain’s “periodic fits of morality”, we’ve turned this rather pathetic man into our latest national hate figure, a cross between Fred West and Jimmy Savile."

Oct 21, 2025
The Telegraph

"Make no mistake, this is a moment of peril for the royal family. The crisis of public confidence echoes the national mood after the death of Diana in 1997, that is to say, a dangerous sense that the palace is not only out of touch with the public mood but is failing to properly respond."

Octo 21, 2025

This is a moment of peril for the royal family

Editorial: The furore over Prince Andrew echoes the national mood after the death of Diana in 1997 – and there is a real danger that the palace has not fully appreciated the strength of public feeling

www.independent.co.uk