UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

[Bluebear15]

I wonder if Sue Townsend's book 'The Queen and I' is starting to come true

 

[JDG]

OT but funny

 

[tedtink]

Prince Andrew took money from firm linked to ripped-off pensioners

The King's brother was paid thousands by a businessman linked to a wealth management firm which ripped off pension savers.

www.bbc.co.uk

The more that goes on I can see a self imposed exile coming soon just to get away from it all.

Fingers crossed, eh.

 

[Skigh]

I wonder if Sue Townsend's book 'The Queen and I' is starting to come true

I really enjoyed that book. I think I might still have it somewhere.
There is also a film.

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1981700465315237933

 

[Warwick7]

MPs will NOT be given time in the House of Commons to discuss Prince Andrew's conduct. Because the Royal Family wants Parliament to focus on "important issues", Downing Street said...

Royals want MPs to focus on ‘important issues’ not Prince Andrew, No 10 says

Downing Street said the Government would not allocate time for a Commons debate on Andrew’s conduct or his living arrangements.

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Telltale]

Prince Andrew has not had his titles stripped away.

He has simply agreed to not use them as has Sarah Ferguson.

His coat of arms, in the Garter hall has been taken down because he is no longer using/participating in the Knights of the Garter.

This is not the Kings fault in fairness. It takes an act of parliament to strip a title, it's only happened twice in the last few centuries. Usually for some form of treason against the nation.

As a he a legitimate child of a monarch he is a prince of the blood. There is not currently a mechanism to strip him of that status.

But what is a title these days but a social flex? It's one thing to not have a title. Having one you arn't allowed to use because the King forbid your creep ass from using them, turns into a fun little social hesitation every time he gets introduced. For someone like him, yeah that'll hit every time. Andrew don't exactly have much else to base his self esteem on.

As for Christmas, he won’t be missed as the family parade to church but I bet he is at the family dinner & luncheon. Also bet he and SF use the side door and are not photographed.

The fact that he is brother to the King, brother and uncle to others, I really doubt he will be cold shouldered. There is fraternity after all & the King will be very aware that Andrew knows ALL the family secrets. Best he hold him close.

IMO, MOO

Family ties are complicated. We all have that shitbag uncle and dirtbag sibling who gets more latitude than they deserve. I am sure he won't get fully exiled. Nor would I reasonably expect him to be. They are a family, not a PR firm.

Andrew will never turn on the monarchy. He certainly will never do a full Harry and write a tell-all. Outside the royal family, he has nothing. Whatever privileges, social currency and lifestyle he still has is entirely dependent on his brother's rapidly thinning patience, and William is looking even less forgiving.

 

[sds71]

There are more questions for the Metropolitan Police over the conduct of officers around Prince Andrew as he faced sexual abuse allegations made by Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre.

Channel 4 News has reviewed court papers detailing how an attempt to serve a civil suit to the Prince in 2021 was frustrated by Met Officers who initially refused to accept them.

The force told us tonight they’re widening their examination of the actions of officers around the Prince.

New questions for Met Police over refusal to investigate Prince Andrew

There are more questions for the Metropolitan Police over the conduct of officers around Prince Andrew as he faced sexual abuse allegations made by Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre.

www.channel4.com

 

[Telltale]

There are more questions for the Metropolitan Police over the conduct of officers around Prince Andrew as he faced sexual abuse allegations made by Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre.

Channel 4 News has reviewed court papers detailing how an attempt to serve a civil suit to the Prince in 2021 was frustrated by Met Officers who initially refused to accept them.

The force told us tonight they’re widening their examination of the actions of officers around the Prince.

New questions for Met Police over refusal to investigate Prince Andrew

There are more questions for the Metropolitan Police over the conduct of officers around Prince Andrew as he faced sexual abuse allegations made by Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre.

www.channel4.com

Are they talking about his security detail? I can't imagine any bodyguards blithely accepting a summons on behalf of a client.

I am interested to see what 'initially refused' turns out to be. If it's 'I'll need to take advice from someone higher up before I can accept anything on his behalf.' Then that seems completely reasonable.

Civil is civil and nothing to do with the police, protection detail or otherwise.

 

[tedtink]

Are they talking about his security detail? I can't imagine any bodyguards blithely accepting a summons on behalf of a client.

I am interested to see what 'initially refused' turns out to be. If it's 'I'll need to take advice from someone higher up before I can accept anything on his behalf.' Then that seems completely reasonable.

Civil is civil and nothing to do with the police, protection detail or otherwise.

Police and /or Protection officers can be called as witnesses in a Civil case. Indeed the 'Met Police' was listed on the written response from AW (Andrew Windsor) according to the C4 clip above.

 

[Telltale]

Police and /or Protection officers can be called as witnesses in a Civil case. Indeed the 'Met Police' was listed on the written response from AW (Andrew Windsor) according to the C4 clip above.

True. I read it as they were trying to serve Andrew, and the Royal Protection Officers refused to accept the summons on his behalf. Not trying to serve the officers themselves

Which would be the correct move. Under the UK Civil Procedure Rules, a civil claim has to be served personally on the defendant, or an authorised agent (usually a solicitor, confirmed in writing.) Whichever police/protection officers on shift wouldn't have been made authorised agents of (I'm guessing) Andrew. So they couldn't just accept a summons on his behalf. If they did, It wouldn't count as being served.

Also seems reasonable that they wouldn't just allow an unknown process server at the gate to trot on into the palace, for obvious security reasons. So they were sent them away so meeting could be arranged properly.

If the process server was trying to make a random officer accept a multimillion civil summons on behalf of the entire Met Police... Well I'd be far more concerned about the brains any officer who didn't 'initially refuse' considering they are licensed to carry a firearm in public.

IDK I may be proven wrong but IMO this smells like nothing clickbait.

 

[mickey2942]

PA and SF can come live in Miami. A nice condo, there are many with security. Exile. Just like Wallis Simpson and Prince Edward.

 

[Stunned]

PA and SF can come live in Miami. A nice condo, there are many with security. Exile. Just like Wallis Simpson and Prince Edward.

I thought they went to the Bahamas?

 

[mickey2942]

I thought they went to the Bahamas?

Well, I was thinking of a less expensive option where they can't cause any problems.

 

[sds71]

King will tell Andrew to quit Royal Lodge after paying no rent for 22 years | The Observer

observer.co.uk

Negotiations over the home of the disgraced prince coincide with calls for closer scrutiny of royal finances…​

The crown estate refuses to discuss the details. “We cannot comment on the leases, I’m afraid,” a spokeswoman said. But she said the estate, which made £1.1bn profit last year on the back of an offshore windfarm boom, would cooperate with the public accounts committee.

 

[tedtink]

DBM

 

[mickey2942]

Prince Andrew 'agrees to leave Royal Lodge' if 'he gets 2 houses back'

The royal has requested Frogmore Cottage in Windsor is handed over to him in exchange for his departure from the 30-room mansion, which is just down the road.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I am sure that there are some nice council houses in London, that PA could afford. And if Fergie wants her own house, maybe she could get one in the same area.

 

[JDG]

Frogmore has 4 or 5 bedrooms.

They can manage with a bedroom each with a couple of spares.

It’s not a mansion but it’s a nice roof over their heads.

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Trouble is, each could sink the ship with the dirt they have on the family.

 

[Dotta]

Wow!

Wasn't Frogmore Cottage renovated by Harry & Meghan?
It was their house for a short time as far as I remember.

This property was offered to PA before.

Yep.
I found the link:

FEMAIL reveals glimpse inside Harry and Meghan's Frogmore Cottage

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle haven't lived in Frogmore Cottage in Windsor estate since they left for a new life in the US in 2020 - but the property has remained a topic of conversation.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Another link:

"FROGMORE COTTAGE

Frogmore Cottage was the UK home of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex before they moved to live in America full-time.

The Palace told them they would no longer have access to the five-bedroom cottage in March 2022.

The Grade II listed, two-storey, stucco-faced house sitting near Windsor Castle on the Windsor Estate has been a royal residence since 1792.

The house was built between the years of 1680 and 1684 by Charles II’s architect, Hugh May, on the estates of Great and Little Frogmore, which were bought by Henry VIII in the 16th century.

The name came from the high number of frogs which live in the low-lying marshy area, which is set within a long sweeping curve of the River Thames.



Since becoming a royal residence, the property has since been home to a number of royals.

In 2019, it was said that £2.4m of taxpayers' money was used to renovate the property, but the pair then paid it back in full when they moved to California.

The couple faced a public backlash when the cost of refurbishing the home initially fell to the taxpayer. The bill included structural work, rewiring and flooring, among other costs.

Following Harry and Meghan’s renovation, it became a five-bedroom property."

Who will end up living in Harry and Meghan's Frogmore Cottage?

Andrew claims he's staying put even though most believe Royal Lodge is earmarked for Prince William. But he is under financial pressure to bite the bullet and downsize to Frogmore Cottage.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

"Prince Andrew and ex-wife Sarah Ferguson
'have agreed to leave Royal Lodge'
- but only if 'they get TWO houses in return'.

The transfer to Frogmore and Adelaide, respectively,
would see the duo part ways for the first time in nearly 20 years.

The location of the properties, just around the corner from each other, would allow the pair to still see each other easily when they like.

And though Frogmore would have been too small for them to live together,
the source added,
each house alone is big enough for their daughters and family to visit."

Prince Andrew 'agrees to leave Royal Lodge' if 'he gets 2 houses back'

The royal has requested Frogmore Cottage in Windsor is handed over to him in exchange for his departure from the 30-room mansion, which is just down the road.

www.dailymail.co.uk