GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #11

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  • #401
Just because it is a possibility that she may have woken up the night the body was being moved, doesn't mean she did. At that point Nathan didn't have much other choice but to risk her hearing them 'sneaking about'. He'd already done so much, why is is hard to believe he would risk waking up SH in the middle of the night? People seem to be getting mired in the idea of that what COULD have happened absolutely, irrefutably DID happen.

I never said it did mean she woke that night. I was just explaining the risk he was taking by bringing the men into the house as there was no guarantee she would stay asleep. However if she knew they were coming there's no risk at all.
 
  • #402
ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 2 mins2 minutes ago
On February 20 SH says she googled 'missing persons' to help Anjie Galsworthy know when to report #beckywatts as missing


ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 8 mins8 minutes ago
When NM told her that he had to leave to help a friend, on Feb 20, SH told the court “I was quite surprised, yeah.” #beckywatts
 
  • #403
I find it very strange. It suggests to me that the child wasn't with her, and she can't cope with holding too many lies going on together in case she gets caught out. I wonder if she was still strapped in the car, and they brought her in when they decided to stay and tell everyone Becky had gone out.

But what about SHs statement, where she said her child was asking to go outside with her when she SH went for a smoke
 
  • #404
If I recall correctly she made a point of saying her child wanted to go and see the rabbit during her interview.

I don't think I've seen that interview. I know NM said she did, but then he said something strange like 'that wasn't true'

strange.
 
  • #405
Just because it is a possibility that she may have woken up the night the body was being moved, doesn't mean she did. At that point Nathan didn't have much other choice but to risk her hearing them 'sneaking about'. He'd already done so much, why is is hard to believe he would risk waking up SH in the middle of the night? People seem to be getting mired in the idea of that what COULD have happened absolutely, irrefutably DID happen.

Yes I agree, this is the guy who risked kidnapping his Step Sister and putting her in Car boot while his Girlfriend popped outside for a cigarette!!! I also think (IF THE TRUTH HAS BEEN TOLD) that he would be of the opinion IF SH did see anything he'd be able to talk her round whatever so wasn't too worried! MOO
 
  • #406
[h=3]'Nathan said he had to go and help a friend and left'[/h]Later that evening the couple went home and ate pizza and watched films before they went to bed around 11pm or midnight.
The next day the couple went back over to Becky’s family home.
Hoare said: “There came a time when Nathan said he had to go and help a friend and grabbed his stuff and left.”
The jury heard that Matthews went alone to B&Q and bought an £80 circular saw which he took back to the couple’s home to dismember Becky’s body.
Hoare said Anjie was worried about Becky still being missing.
She later noticed Matthews had a scratch on his wrist but she did not ask him about it.
Then Hoare put a message out on Facebook about Becky being missing, the jury heard.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6733548
 
  • #407
She's back :)

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 8m8 minutes ago
SH said quite surprised when NM told her he had to leave to help a friend on 20/2

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 7m7 minutes ago
SH says googled how long to report someone missing cos Anjie,Bw stepmum wanted to know when could call police

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 6m6 minutes ago
SH says that saw cut on NMs hand when he returned

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 5m5 minutes ago
Contacted NMs cousin to see if she'd seen BW, put some messages out on FB

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 5m5 minutes ago
Says NM could have been in the house with her when texting each other,says that was normal

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 4m4 minutes ago
Says NM said toilet blocked in CML, door locked. SH says doesn't go to loo very often

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 2m2 minutes ago
YouTube search, "do you want to hide a body" parody, SH said she searched it as NM not in best mood & cheered him up
 
  • #408
Am I nitpicking?

QUOTE]Hoare: No sign of Becky in bedroom so shouted down to Mrs Galsworthy and Luke that she wasn't in.
https://twitter.com/clairehayhurst/with_replies

vs Luke Oberhansli tells court he last saw teenager two days before her death ( 8 Oct )



http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...h-court-told-of-becky-watts-text-to-boyfriend


Cross posted with you Alyce![/QUOTE]

This IS an interesting discrepancy, but I don't see why she would lie about it. Could she just have omitted this bit? I guess it's not out of the question that she may have asked Anjie as Becky may have contacted her in the meantime via text etc. Again, it is something I might flippantly do if I wasn't really paying attention in the first place. She had no reason at that stage (if we're to believe her story) to take much notice of Becky leaving the house, so she may have absent-mindedly asked Anjie. I'm babbling a bit here but hopefully you catch my drift.
 
  • #409
I don't think I've seen that interview. I know NM said she did, but then he said something strange like 'that wasn't true'

strange.

She said something like the child was whinging to go out and feed the rabbit so she took her, it was during one of the filmed interviews.
 
  • #410
Heart West News ‏@HeartWestNews 5m5 minutes ago
SH thought NM went was going to work the day after #BeckyWatts went missing, he told her he was 'helping' a friend

Heart West News ‏@HeartWestNews 3m3 minutes ago
When they went back to CML SH said she was 'unable to use [bathroom]', could 'smell the bleach’ and NM had he locked it from the outside
 
  • #411
Yes I agree, this is the guy who risked kidnapping his Step Sister and putting her in Car boot while his Girlfriend popped outside for a cigarette!!! I also think (IF THE TRUTH HAS BEEN TOLD) that he would be of the opinion IF SH did see anything he'd be able to talk her round whatever so wasn't too worried! MOO
I think if you believe SH is innocent you have to believe he risked both and was able to pull both off, but if she's involved he doesn't have to risk either.
 
  • #412
:(

[video=twitter;660108099437613057]https://twitter.com/SiobhanRobbins/status/660108099437613057[/video]
 
  • #413
I never said it did mean she woke that night. I was just explaining the risk he was taking by bringing the men into the house as there was no guarantee she would stay asleep. However if she knew they were coming there's no risk at all.

That wasn't solely directed at you, ColourPurple :) ... I think though that desperate as NM was at that point, it probably would've been a risk he was compelled to take.
 
  • #414
[h=3]'I showed Nathan "Do you want to hide a body" Frozen parody because I knew it made him laugh'[/h]Hoare told the court how she was with Matthews at Becky’s home when her dad Darren came home from work and called police to report his daughter missing.
Afterwards, she returned home with Matthews and said she was unable to use the bathroom.
She said: “He said the toilet was blocked and he had put drain cleaner down and we weren’t to go in there. He had locked it from the outside.
“I downloaded a film Underworld to watch with Nathan in the bedroom.”
The jury heard Hoare then made an internet search on a site called: “Do You Want To Hide A Body”.
She said: “Nathan wasn’t in the best of moods and I knew it made him laugh.
“I don’t think I even showed it him, I just played it for a couple of seconds.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6733548
 
  • #415
ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 2 mins2 minutes ago
Court has finished for the day, and the week. It will resume on Monday where SH will continue giving evidence #beckywatts
 
  • #416
A bad night with nightmares?

So he really couldn't rely on her sleeping through him moving all the stuff out of the house. Deep sleeper or not she coudlve woken up with a nightmare

On the UK and Eire FB page, the comment reads that SH said

she often had nightmares


so perhaps if she had woken up when NM and KD were taking packages down from the loft, NM would have told her it was just another nightmare !
 
  • #417
at 0.29 is where she mentions her daughter wanting to go out so she took her to feed the rabbit

[video=youtube;9E6n8RSIP18]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E6n8RSIP18&sns=em[/video]
 
  • #418
She's back :)

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 8m8 minutes ago
SH said quite surprised when NM told her he had to leave to help a friend on 20/2

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 7m7 minutes ago
SH says googled how long to report someone missing cos Anjie,Bw stepmum wanted to know when could call police

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 6m6 minutes ago
SH says that saw cut on NMs hand when he returned

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 5m5 minutes ago
Contacted NMs cousin to see if she'd seen BW, put some messages out on FB

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 5m5 minutes ago
Says NM could have been in the house with her when texting each other,says that was normal

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 4m4 minutes ago
Says NM said toilet blocked in CML, door locked. SH says doesn't go to loo very often

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 2m2 minutes ago
YouTube search, "do you want to hide a body" parody, SH said she searched it as NM not in best mood & cheered him up

hahaha!!
 
  • #419
Taken from UK & Eire FB:
Just to clarify: Shauna has not mentioned a child being with her.

But they had CBeebies on the TV, so it seems likely she was with them
 
  • #420
at 0.29 is where she mentions her daughter wanting to go out so she took her to feed the rabbit

video snipped

Thank you!! I don't know why that bit has been cut from all the versions I've ever watched.
 
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