GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #12

[Alyce]

True.. he needs to be questioned about what he supposedly told his friend

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Am guessing that JIs Barrister might avoid that question - hopefully Pros will cover it though - will be very odd if he doesnt

 

[Tortoise]

Dipping in and out today due to work.

if JI now says he thought he was helping NM move when a previous witness (a friend I think) said JI had told him He was helping store something dodgy, then it seems JI is lying and could quite possibly be lying about a woman (SH) shouting.

This strengthens SH's case, surely?

I don't think so because it is the same witness who said both things, presumably being what JI said to him at the time.

 

[ColourPurple]

That was from the pros opening statement

On February 28, Ireland went out with friends and he said that the previous week he had been asked to help remove 'some stuff' - the proceeds of a robbery - and would be paid £5,000.

He told the friends he had used a van from work to transport the 'tightly packaged, slightly squidgy' packages from Cotton Mill Lane to Barton Court and would go on holiday with the money.


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Ok so this is a week later... did anything happen in between I wonder

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Oh please don't be fibbing Mr Ireland! I want to believe he's just a kind hearted schmuck, do anything for his nan type of lad.

But further down in that Huff Post article it mentions about the packages being drugs. So which is it? Drugs or stolen goods?

 

[sar2them1984]

On a side point but why was JI remanded in custody but DD wasn't?

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[Clio]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 43 secs44 seconds ago
JI says had he known the packages were anything to do with Becky Watts he would not have touched them. #beckywatts

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 57 secs57 seconds ago
When questioned on whether he would have helped if they were “kilos of drugs”, Ireland again says no. #beckywatts

skyfieldnewsed ‏@skyrobcatherall · 1 min1 minute ago
Denies he would have had anything to do with the packages if he had know what was inside

 

[Tortoise]

On a side point but why was JI remanded in custody but DD wasn't?

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bail?

 

[sar2them1984]

Am guessing that JIs Barrister might avoid that question - hopefully Pros will cover it though - will be very odd if he doesnt

Yes sorry I meant the pros although to nip it in the bud the defence may want to address it

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[Clio]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 57 secs57 seconds ago
JI says the box had clothing on top, and he never looked underneath to see what else was in it. #beckywatts

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 51 secs51 seconds ago
He added he didn’t unzip the suitcases, and had no reason to do so, as he passed them into the kitchen. #beckywatts

 

[sar2them1984]

bail?

Yes - just wondered why JI wasn't bailed...

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[Tortoise]

I wonder if that's why they put clothing on top, to make it look like a 'move'. some old items they didn't want anymore.

 

[Alyce]

Oh please don't be fibbing Mr Ireland! I want to believe he's just a kind hearted schmuck, do anything for his nan type of lad.

But further down in that Huff Post article it mentions about the packages being drugs. So which is it? Drugs or stolen goods?

I agree - was it slightly squidgy packages or was it, as he has just now stated, clothing

the story is not adding up for me

 

[sar2them1984]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 57 secs57 seconds ago
JI says the box had clothing on top, and he never looked underneath to see what else was in it. #beckywatts

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 51 secs51 seconds ago
He added he didn’t unzip the suitcases, and had no reason to do so, as he passed them into the kitchen. #beckywatts

Well that bit at least corroborates that the boxes were in JPs kitchen initially

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[Clio]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 21 secs21 seconds ago
JI is now recalling this conversation with friend Richard Whitton #beckywatts http://www.itv.com/news/west/update...d-thought-he-was-moving-items-from-a-robbery/ …

 

[sar2them1984]

*leans forward*

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[Alyce]

On a side point but why was JI remanded in custody but DD wasn't?

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DD was in custody until about August I think, when he then got bail.


edited to add ....... I think JI might have been kept on remand because he was driving the van and appeared more involved than DD, who was only in the house ( at the wrong time possibly )

 

[ColourPurple]

Well that bit at least corroborates that the boxes were in JPs kitchen initially

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I was wondering which kitchen he meant. Did somebody else say they were in the kitchen? I only remember NM saying they were in the shed

 

[Clio]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 29 secs30 seconds ago
JI says he was drunk and, as he is not that confident, tried to "big himself up" to seem normal. #beckywatts

 

[Clio]

I was wondering which kitchen he meant. Did somebody else say they were in the kitchen? I only remember NM saying they were in the shed

Was he talking about kitchen in CML???

 

[sar2them1984]

I was wondering which kitchen he meant. Did somebody else say they were in the kitchen? I only remember NM saying they were in the shed

Ohhhh now I'm going to have to go source hunting...

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