GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #13

[Cherwell]

Doubt, (for me) of where the actual dismemberment site was given the complete lack of Dna at NMS home.

Soo many unanswered questions where the pros had an opportunity to elaborate but failed to do so.

Grrr

If the prosecution don't know, they are not going to ask. It's a basic rule of prosecution - don't ask a question if you don't already know the answer.

It seems to be accepted that it took place in the bathroom though. I think it's highly unlikely that it was elsewhere.

 

[Clio]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 36 secs36 seconds ago
Blood belonging to #beckywatts was detected on the outside of the handcuffs, court is told.

Claire Hayhurst ‏@clairehayhurst · 38 secs39 seconds ago
Becky's blood was found on the outside edge of a pair of handcuffs found near her body parts. #BeckyWatts

 

[Clio]

Claire Hayhurst ‏@clairehayhurst · 22 secs23 seconds ago
No blood was detected on the black folding boot matt of Nathan Matthews's Vauxhall Zafira

 

[sar2them1984]

The ONE day I hadn't got that page open! lol

They're gonna look a bit stupid if the other police force do confirm what Uk &Eire is saying

Hmm I flipped over to there mighty sharpish lol...bit rich to post that though imo

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[NSS]

Yes, I know, but it's not specified. It would fall under this section:

If you are summoned to go for jury service the judge has certain powers to:
put off your service until a later date
excuse you for that sitting or a particular trial or period of time if you have a good reason

Knowing about the crime or belonging here would not disqualify you. It is a jurors duty to consider only the evidence presented. Juries aren't selected using voire dire as in the USA.

 

[Clio]

Claire Hayhurst ‏@clairehayhurst · 54 secs55 seconds ago
Blood was found on the parcel shelf of Nathan Matthews's car but this was not Becky's. Matched the profile of Nathan Matthews #BeckyWatts

 

[sar2them1984]

If the prosecution don't know, they are not going to ask. It's a basic rule of prosecution - don't ask a question if you don't already know the answer.

It seems to be accepted that it took place in the bathroom though. I think it's highly unlikely that it was elsewhere.

Not disputing that but a large part of their case revolved around the dismemberment being done in the bathroom when actually (from what we've been told) there isn't actually anything to say that it happened there aside from NMS word...

No Dna in there. Nothing such as tape markings,to demonstrate that coverings had been used (plus no coverings found), no marks on the bath despite expert evidence stating this would be near impossible..

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[Clio]

Claire Hayhurst ‏@clairehayhurst · 45 secs46 seconds ago
Three of the head hairs found in the boot of the Vauxhall Zafira were in keeping as having originated from #BeckyWatts

 

[PrimeSuspect]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 36 secs36 seconds ago
Blood belonging to #beckywatts was detected on the outside of the handcuffs, court is told.

Claire Hayhurst ‏@clairehayhurst · 38 secs39 seconds ago
Becky's blood was found on the outside edge of a pair of handcuffs found near her body parts. #BeckyWatts

For some reason, reading this really got to me....

 

[YidArmyRach]

Not disputing that but a large part of their case revolved around the dismemberment being done in the bathroom when actually (from what we've been told) there isn't actually anything to say that it happened there aside from NMS word...

No Dna in there. Nothing such as tape markings,to demonstrate that coverings had been used (plus no coverings found), no marks on the bath despite expert evidence stating this would be near impossible..

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I'm not even convinced she was dead when she was taken from her home. There doesn't seem to be any evidence, other than NM's story - which is full of holes. So, I am also finding it hard to believe she was dismembered in the bathroom, due to the complete lack of DNA evidence. I think something happened in there - maybe cleaning body parts and cleaning himself/themselves, but I am totally open to there being another site which hasn't been discovered.

 

[sar2them1984]

I'm not even convinced she was dead when she was taken from her home. There doesn't seem to be any evidence, other than NM's story - which is full of holes. So, I am also finding it hard to believe she was dismembered in the bathroom, due to the complete lack of DNA evidence. I think something happened in there - maybe cleaning body parts and cleaning himself/themselves, but I am totally open to there being another site which hasn't been discovered.

Totally agree

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[Clio]

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 4 mins4 minutes ago
Prosecution begins its closing speech in the Becky Watts trial

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 1 min1 minute ago
Closing speeches have begun. #beckywatts

 

[Clio]

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 2 mins2 minutes ago
Mousley QC:"It's time for a little reality to return"to this case.Says there's a fantasy world that 4 defendants live in and real world

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 2 mins2 minutes ago
Says in fantasy world "People don't see, hear, smell the things that anyone else would notice."

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 2 mins2 minutes ago
"That fantasy world where nobody tells anyone else what they have done & nobody displays any emotions"

 

[YidArmyRach]

Totally agree

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And there was never an explanation for the 40 injuries - despite MN claiming he only punched her once.

 

[Hexenb]

I think Shauna is guilty as hell, the other I think they just thought it was drugs or robbery stuff I think they all got wind of the arrests of NM & SH the penny dropped with them all had a little meeting to sort out what to do and got arrested

 

[Cherwell]

So if there was another site, how is this significant? Are you saying that SH may be telling the truth and knew nothing about it?

 

[ColourPurple]

Not disputing that but a large part of their case revolved around the dismemberment being done in the bathroom when actually (from what we've been told) there isn't actually anything to say that it happened there aside from NMS word...

No Dna in there. Nothing such as tape markings,to demonstrate that coverings had been used (plus no coverings found), no marks on the bath despite expert evidence stating this would be near impossible..

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The only thing was the boot liner with Becky's hair on, shoved in the back of the cooker in the bathroom.

NM's blood on the parcel shelf of his car (thats the shelf above the boot yes?) made me wonder if he'd got it there after cutting himslef whilst using the saw elsewhere, putting the body parts in the boot and then driving back home, but equally I suppose it could be from cutting himself at home using the saw then putting something in the boot after.

 

[Clio]

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 35 secs35 seconds ago
Becky Watts -"a girl whose life was cruelly and we submit callously taken away from her by Nathan Matthews and Shauna Hoare..."

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 30 secs30 seconds ago
"Because they didn't like her and because they thought she could be their sexual plaything."

 

[Clio]

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 55 secs56 seconds ago
"The contempt they had for her extends to the grotesque way her body was treated after her death"

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 27 secs28 seconds ago
Said NM/SH "a team" always together, didn't have secrets.A close and continuing, loving relationship

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I'm so pleased - you know when you're about to get ready to do the school run (on foot, in the pouring rain) and then walk all the way to take the kids to their swimming lessons, and then not get home til after 5 and miss all the court info? But then your husband comes home early and agrees to do all the running about and THEN make a curry for us all? Well that!