GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #13

[Clio]

What I have been able to establish is that there was blood on Becky's onesie.

We know that Becky's onesie was removed by NM or SH before she was dismembered, so it is unlikely that the blood got there during the dismembering, unless it was just spatter.

It was reported that there was blood on the straps of her onesie. I thought this strange, to hear the onesie had straps, and that it was short legged, so I tried to find an image of a George (Asda) leopard print onesie to fit this description. I found something that I wouldn't describe as a onesie, but more of an all in one type of nightwear, or lingerie, like a teddy.

I think what they were suggesting is that the neck wounds (screwdriver) bled more than the abdominal knife wounds, but that they couldn't say with certainty when she bled. One possible explanation for this could be that the stabbing in the neck occurred around the time of death, when there was no or little blood circulation. I don't think they were willing to speculate or draw a definite conclusion either way.

BIB If that's true, then either the wounds happened at CH or she died at a later time. I did wonder when NM's defence said this, if he was going to suggest that it wasn't actually NM who killed Becky but that doesn't seem to be what he meant.

 

[Tortoise]

BIB If that's true, then either the wounds happened at CH or she died at a later time. I did wonder when NM's defence said this, if he was going to suggest that it wasn't actually NM who killed Becky but that doesn't seem to be what he meant.

I can't work out where he was going with it for the life of me. Yes if it was the prosecutor, but not NM's team.

 

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[cottonweaver]

Yes he did I'll try and find link I posted before but PO stated he had to open clingfilm to see the contents

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No need to go hunting sar2them - PC had to open it to identify - that's good enough for me.

So even if any of them looked (which I guess one might have ) in a bag ( without piercing the inner packaging) they would not have been able to determine it's contents at all, nor could a copper.

ETA - Cross post - Clio has provided statement. ( I'm behind you posters)

 

[skibaboo]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 2m2 minutes ago
Court is back for day 22 of evidence. Today are defence closing speeches. NM barrister to go first. #beckywatts

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 4m4 minutes ago
NM barrister says he doesn't ask for sympathy for Matthews #beckywatts

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 3m3 minutes ago
NM has shown himself to be capable of killing a 16yo girl, then treating her body with "such a lack of contempt and humanity" #beckywatts

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 45s46 seconds ago
He asked the jury not to leap to conclusions, despite feeling "nothing but contempt and loathing" to NM #beckywatts

https://twitter.com/ITVBeckyTrial

 

[Alyce]

Morning all, looks like I just caught up on this thread in time.

 

[Clio]

I can't (reliably) post tweets today as I'm in and out. Can someone else do? TIA

 

[YidArmyRach]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 6m6 minutes ago
NM barrister says he doesn't ask for sympathy for Matthews #beckywatts

 

[cottonweaver]

Do posters think closings will only take one day?

 

[YidArmyRach]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 2m2 minutes ago
He asked the jury not to leap to conclusions, despite feeling "nothing but contempt and loathing" to NM #beckywatts

 

[Gigi-G]

There still are a whole host of questions raised by the the Police. SOCO. Post Mortem. That have not (as far as has been reported) answered.
I know that the Court and Jury would of had and heard evidence that can't be divulged out of Court. But I do hope that once the sentences have been passed down. That there is more closure on the case.
Because at the moment it seems very disjointed. And these two. NM & SH. Really need to recieve punishment to fit the crime.
They played a game. From the get go. And still are in their warped vision of reality.
AG in my eyes had not only lost a 'daughter' (albeit a step daughter) but a son also now. And a grand baby. ( I'm assuming NM & SH'S child will either be with extended family or fostered)
So I do really hope. That NM & SH. Think long and hard whilst coming down to reality with a bump. At ALL the lives their sick perverted grotesque games, ruined that day.
Sorry rant over. ..... All moo. Of course.

 

[YidArmyRach]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 1m1 minute ago
NM has shown himself to be capable of killing a 16yo girl, then treating her body with "such a lack of compassion and humanity" #beckywatts

 

[jessie]

Does anyone here know anything about this ?? Did I miss it ?



christine megson
@meganewswest
Freelance/Sky News journalist South West England & London.


christine megson
‏@meganewswest
Jury hearing last minute statement on behalf of Donovan Demetrius before closing statements.
6:36 a.m. - 5 Nov 2015
Bristol, England

 

[YidArmyRach]

Sam FM News ‏@samfmnews 2m2 minutes ago
#BeckyWatts trial: Defence admits NM's plan to kidnap Becky was 'boneheaded, extreme and frankly absurd'

 

[Alyce]

Do posters think closings will only take one day?

I think NM and SHs barristers will take about an hour each - would expect JI and DDs to be shorter, so they could do it all, if they extend the court a bit beyond the usual 12 midday closure.
Otherwise, they could do JI and DD on Monday first thing, before Judge begins to sum up.

 

[Alyce]

Does anyone here know anything about this ?? Did I miss it ?



christine megson
@meganewswest
Freelance/Sky News journalist South West England & London.


christine megson
‏@meganewswest
Jury hearing last minute statement on behalf of Donovan Demetrius before closing statements.
6:36 a.m. - 5 Nov 2015
Bristol, England

Have been searching around but no one seems to have given an update re this yet.... interesting

 

[Cherwell]

IMO they all knew it could be a body just before the police came, I do think, in the early stages, they thought it was something like coke or heroin, but could that be "squidgy" really ?IDK, it's all gruesome.
Am surprised they didn't look in the bags, but equally it could have been so well packaged it was impossible to see ( I can't recollect exactly what the policeman observed about the first find, whether he had to open it in order to tell.)

"Squidgy" to me just means squashy as opposed to hard or angular, like a box.

 

[YidArmyRach]

ITV tweets not updated for a while.

Hope ok to post these for now:

UK & Eire database for all crimes against children Defence says looking at Becky's dad statement to police which says Becky was very rude and disrespectful to her stepmum. He says Beckys dad told Becky to move out for a month

 

[YidArmyRach]

UK & Eire database for all crimes against children He said Beckys dad never noticed any sexual attraction between Nathan & Becky, and never saw him be inappropriate towards Becky

 

[Clio]

ITV tweets not updated for a while.

Hope ok to post these for now:

UK & Eire database for all crimes against children Defence says looking at Becky's dad statement to police which says Becky was very rude and disrespectful to her stepmum. He says Beckys dad told Becky to move out for a month

SiobhanRobbins is posting tweets. Thx