Found Deceased UK - Samantha Eastwood, 28, Stoke-on-Trent, 27 July 2018 *Arrest*

[JosieJo]

Was the cctv requests definitely 9 and 11pm ? ..did some reports not also say am?

 

[kongpick2018]

Interesting point! I have no idea, but salt is a preservative.

I don’t believe her body was found within the actual quarry. Rather just outside an entry point to said quarry. Was it not stated that her body was found in a ditch? Of which there are many along that Lane.

 

[cottonweaver]

Would JP do house enquiries with MS knowing he had threatens her? I don't think JP was aware of this.

Very good point - but equally how would the midwife who'd called the police ( about the MS threats) keep her concerns from JP when she may have called him & they visited the house to check if she was inside?

( Wld rely on cops telling her to keep quiet on MS? )

 

[cottonweaver]

I don’t believe her body was found within the actual quarry. Rather just outside an entry point to said quarry. Was it not stated that her body was found in a ditch? Of which there are many along that Lane.

Thanks Kong. You're local aren't you. Great to have locals on WS..always.

 

[Yozzer]

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+ dehydrate tissues if salt is concentrated in this "shallow grave" environment.

Also , he clearly has tried to hide this body if he was willing to make a grave ( not just secreted in undergrowth) but even as a fencing man with all the tools in the back of van(?), not enough to dig a deep one. ( In a rush/ just sloppy?)

Temporary?

 

[jessie]

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Unfortunately the uncle died before she was brave enough to tell anyone. She only recently told my husband and myself, a lot of her ‘quirks’ were understandable once she had though.

O/T but I am so sorry to hear that. I expect your m-i-l is about my age (maybe younger!) but a different generation when such things were never mentioned or spoken of. What a burden she has had to carry throughout her life, but wonderful she finally had the courage to speak of it. I do hope she has coped and had a happy life in spite of this. j x

 

[cottonweaver]

Temporary?

IDK Yozzer, it's not something I've ever had to look up during a WS case I was just throwing that factor in but I do remember the complexity of proving different types of suffocation from a previous WS case. (can't remember the deceased's case now as it's a good while ago. )

( Anyway looks like salt is irrelevant as local poster Kong who lives very close by has just said, that her body was not right inside the salt quarry.)

Back to alibis....wondering if MS has previous record for minor offences and thus Dad covered for him, thinking it was minor crime?

 

[kongpick2018]

Thanks Kong. You're local aren't you. Great to have locals on WS..always.

I am.

The quarry also is inaccessible by vehicle unless the person has a key to open the gate at either access point (Tickhill Lane end or Handley Banks) there is a gap next to the fencing on Tickhill Lane that small bikes, quads, walkers and horses can access but the quarry is then a few hundred feet away from there. Very unlikely IMO that one could move something such as a body through that gap and into the quarry space.

 

[cottonweaver]

I am.

The quarry also is inaccessible by vehicle unless the person has a key to open the gate at either access point (Tickhill Land end or Handley Banks) there is a gap next to the fencing on Tickhill Lane that small bikes, quads, walkers and horses can access but the quarry is then a few hundred feet away from there. Very unlikely IMO that one could move something such as a body through that gap and into the quarry space.

Thanks. That's the kind of thing you can't see on Googleearth.

So all round, he's done a bad job with concealment, despite having attempted it.
I had a look at the routes from BG to C.hall and there seem to be few routes. The one that looked better ( for less cameras) was that Leek Road.

(Beautiful area, not been down that way for many years... but horrible even for the people living nearby, like yourself.)

 

[truthfinder34]

Thanks. That's the kind of thing you can't see on Googleearth.

So all round, he's done a bad job with concealment, despite having attempted it.
I had a look at the routes from BG to C.hall and there seem to be few routes. The one that looked better ( for less cameras) was that Leek Road.

(Beautiful area, not been down that way for many years... but horrible even for the people living nearby, like yourself.)

I have family who live in BG. I doubt he would of used leek road tbh. there are two shops and a post office he would of passed plus a junction with traffic lights at the bittom, It's a very busy road. I think he used the backstreets off Greenside av to access bagnal road ( I drove down bagnal road Saturday afternoon after SE reported missing the day before and saw a black Mercedes 4x4 in a layby by the golf course. a man in a shirt and tie on the phone. I can remember thinking it was odd at the time ) Bagnal road has no traffic lights and is almost like a country lane. I think he went up through Werrington then kingsley road. I think Kinsley road is where they spotting his number plate. I have no idea of course but I would assume he would try to Avoid major roads as much as possible.

 

[Logic-lady]

Apparently MS has been moved prison.

Yahoo is now part of Oath

 

[kongpick2018]

Thanks. That's the kind of thing you can't see on Googleearth.

So all round, he's done a bad job with concealment, despite having attempted it.
I had a look at the routes from BG to C.hall and there seem to be few routes. The one that looked better ( for less cameras) was that Leek Road.

(Beautiful area, not been down that way for many years... but horrible even for the people living nearby, like yourself.)

The Leek Road route is much more built up rather than coming through via Bagnall Road which is much more rural. I wouldn’t know CCTV or camera locations along either route but if I would guess Bagnall would be a safer option if one were trying to go undetected.

It’s rocked the whole community of Stoke/Staffordshire (much wider than even the village itself) you see these things on the news but never assume it would happen so close to home.

 

[Alyce]

Was the cctv requests definitely 9 and 11pm ? ..did some reports not also say am?

I also saw some MSM articles initially, that said 9 - 11 am but I can't find them now.
The only one that still seems to be on line is the Telegraph article, quoting from the local farmer and he definately says 9 - 11 PM

Police are understood to be investigating whether the midwife was taken to a hideaway in a vehicle on Friday night. They are thought to be are focusing specifically on a two hour time frame between 9pm-11pm on the day she vanished.


Nigel Potts, a farmer who lives close to the quarry at New Hall Farm, one of only six homes along the mile long single track Tick Hill Lane, revealed police were hoping to recover CCTV footage from his home and neighbouring properties covering those key hours.

He said: “Officers first came to visit on Thursday afternoon and were inquiring if I had any film from the Friday 9-11pm. They said they were focusing on those two hours and were looking for a vehicle.


“It’s a very rural and remote and area and I have CCTV but it didn’t go back to that day unfortunately.”



Body found as police search disused quarry for missing midwife

 

[cottonweaver]

I have family who live in BG. I doubt he would of used leek road tbh. there are two shops and a post office he would of passed plus a junction with traffic lights at the bittom, It's a very busy road. I think he used the backstreets off Greenside av to access bagnal road ( I drove down bagnal road Saturday afternoon after SE reported missing the day before and saw a black Mercedes 4x4 in a layby by the golf course. a man in a shirt and tie on the phone. I can remember thinking it was odd at the time ) Bagnal road has no traffic lights and is almost like a country lane. I think he went up through Werrington then kingsley road. I think Kinsley road is where they spotting his number plate. I have no idea of course but I would assume he would try to Avoid major roads as much as possible.

Wow - we're very lucky to have two locals and another poster with local knowledge ( sorry have forgotten exactly, possibly Leanne?)

Thanks truthfinder.
I saw in the court report that the prosecutor said that CCTV, APNR and something else ( forgotten now) would form some of the evidence against him.

 

[truthfinder34]

The Leek Road route is much more built up rather than coming through via Bagnall Road which is much more rural. I wouldn’t know CCTV or camera locations along either route but if I would guess Bagnall would be a safer option if one were trying to go undetected.

It’s rocked the whole community of Stoke/Staffordshire (much wider than even the village itself) you see these things on the news but never assume it would happen so close to home.

we both thought the same with bagnall then!

it certainly has rocked our community. I hope justice is served for samantha

 

[kongpick2018]

I have been down that lane many times and within the quarry as I have horses so I know it fairly well.

The lane and quarry itself are used by many horse riders, walkers and bikes. I hope someone saw something that pin points him there and that the evidence is so heavily weighted against him, he is charged with murder and UNable to walk free again. I truly hope he isn’t able to give any plea bargain for a lesser sentence.

I am also aware that people in the local area were taught by this individual at joinery college/school.

 

[Yozzer]

I believe the police released certain info to make MS sweat.

And withhold other details to prevent MS and legal team from constructing a defence case based around known events.

 

[Yozzer]

I truly hope he isn’t able to give any plea bargain for a lesser sentence.

I am also aware that people in the local area were taught by this individual at joinery college/school.

I think he has blown any chance of mitigating circumstances by failing to contact emergency services, removing SE and unlawful disposal/burial.

Was MS a further ed tutor? Is he really a qualified joiner?

 

[Florence61]

Is it possible that something happened at Cromer St as the police are treating it as a crime scene ?
Could SE have called there on her way home from work , something happened & MS was seen bundling her into her own car ( hence the kidnap charge ) he then drove her car back to her house & parked up & asked his father to bring the van ? This could explain why SEs car was parked where it was so the van could be pulled into the drive . The second person charged with helping could then have picked the father up .

 

[Yozzer]

I saw in the court report that the prosecutor said that CCTV, APNR and something else ( forgotten now) would form some of the evidence against him.

"Telephone evidence"