Found Deceased UK - Samantha Eastwood, 28, Stoke-on-Trent, 27 July 2018 *Arrest*

[Atoz]

I wonder if this could have been an argument about money? Perhaps MS had agreed to do a lot of work on the house and then there was a dispute over the payment.

Perhaps MS used the work as an excuse to get closer to her in order to take advantage of her vulnerable state following her breakup, and when things didn't pan out how he wanted, he may have chosen to silence her.

 

[Aizeneh]

Photos in the Mail showing John Peake visiting SE’s house to lay flowers. There are photos of the shed, which looks new so maybe the ‘summerhouse’ referred to that MS installed. It doesn’t look as though there are windows in it, and the guttering is very uneven - maybe from the Police search, but possibly installed badly which led to a dispute? MOO is more dynamics involved here beyond just being about money.

 

[Boo68]

I didn't even think of that Boo. You're right.

Which reminds me of a thought I had earlier - how did they id her so quickly? Did she still have her scrubs on I wonder.

(Sorry quoting didn't work.)

Possibly or even her i.d pass or could be something like jewellery or a tattoo ect.

 

[overthemoon]

Seen the video of JP and GE laying flowers at Samantha’s home. No doubt both of them are grief stricken.

They got into another car together with the police liaison officers. Although no words were spoken, I like to think that GE doesn’t harbour any bad feelings towards JP.

If I were in her shoes and I have any suspicion that JP is to blame, I would make my feelings very clear to the PLOs, “Under no circumstances will I get into the same car with THIS MAN” !!!!!

 

[Cherwell]

The police made it clear that JP was not a suspect.

Pity the vultures were out snapping this private occasion after the family had asked to be left alone to grieve.

 

[Cherwell]

I'm aware that the police would have used the term as a technicality as all they had at that point was a missing person and the reported threat made to SE but usualy in these circumstances, the police will arrest a person for the suspected "abduction of" or for being involved in "the disappearance of" but rarely if ever in these circumstanes do they use the term kidnapping.

It's definitely cropped up before because I recall similar discussions here. I can't remember which case though, but it may have been the Becky Watts case.

 

[Alyce]

It's definitely cropped up before because I recall similar discussions here. I can't remember which case though, but it may have been the Becky Watts case.

Yes I remember the term being used in Becky's case.

 

[Lola68]

Possibly or even her i.d pass or could be something like jewellery or a tattoo ect.

Missing Radley purse? Although TBH it's not exactly an inner city high crime area so the police must have been pretty confident it was SE

 

[Boo68]

Yes I remember the term being used in Becky's case.

It would've been used in the Becky Watts case as kidnapping is the act of forcibly taking a person against their will for a specific reason or purpose, usually to benifit or gain ie financal gain from a ransom or media coverage to highlight a political issue or as in the Becky Watts case to satisfy a particular sexual fantasy.

 

[Lola68]

Seen the video of JP and GE laying flowers at Samantha’s home. No doubt both of them are grief stricken.

They got into another car together with the police liaison officers. Although no words were spoken, I like to think that GE doesn’t harbour any bad feelings towards JP.

I think this shows how close JP was to SE's family - and remained so, even after SE called off the wedding. How he feels now, knowing that his sister's husband has been charged with her murder, I can't imagine - must be so torn.

 

[Boo68]

Missing Radley purse? Although TBH it's not exactly an inner city high crime area so the police must have been pretty confident it was SE

Agreed although I think they need some definitive proof before making it official

 

[Cherwell]

It would've been used in the Becky Watts case as kidnapping is the act of forcibly taking a person against their will for a specific reason or purpose, usually to benifit or gain ie financal gain from a ransom or media coverage to highlight a political issue or as in the Becky Watts case to satisfy a particular sexual fantasy.

Unhelpfully the paragraph on kidnapping seems to be missing from this doc:
Offences against the Person, incorporating the Charging Standard | The Crown Prosecution Service

However this shows that definitions are far from simple:
https://assets.publishing.service.g...4612_HC_797_Law_Commission_355_accessible.pdf

Whatever - he's now charged with murder and we must wait and see if any further charges are laid.

 

[Elainera]

I think this shows how close JP was to SE's family - and remained so, even after SE called off the wedding. How he feels now, knowing that his sister's husband has been charged with her murder, I can't imagine - must be so torn.

And his poor sister! Terrible for her. Isn't there a child as well?

 

[Elainera]

Do we have any social media accounts for MS?

 

[Florence61]

Do we have any social media accounts for MS?

His & his wife’s accounts were taken down from FB very soon after Sam was reported missing .

 

[Yozzer]

I agree. What I can't get my head round is the gap between the wedding being called off (January) and wedding dress being put up for sale (July) and whether all of this is related and something built up over months until exploding on the 27th July?

Remember though we were told Sam was happy and nothing unusual was going on and then today we're told she gave a colleague the heads-up about being threatened and to report it straight away if she didn't turn up for work which they did with the reporting to Police after just 20 minutes of being late.

A lot more to come I think.

Re the wedding dress: Maybe it was too raw to dispose of it earlier and 6 months later (and after the intended wedding date) she had come to terms with the relationship breakdown and was 'moving on' by disposing of it. It is interesting as you say that there is a contradiction between the report of her leaving hospital in a happy mood yet she was clearly at risk.

 

[Elainera]

His & his wife’s accounts were taken down from FB very soon after Sam was reported missing .

Interesting. Were you able to look at his page before it was taken down? (We can sleuth him but not his wife.)

 

[Florence61]

Re the wedding dress: Maybe it was too raw to dispose of it earlier and 6 months later (and after the intended wedding date) she had come to terms with the relationship breakdown and was 'moving on' by disposing of it. It is interesting as you say that there is a contradiction between the report of her leaving hospital in a happy mood yet she was clearly at risk.

 

[Florence61]

She was maybe deemed ‘at risk’ because the police had been informed that she had been threatened .

 

[Florence61]

Interesting. Were you able to look at his page before it was taken down? (We can sleuth him but not his wife.)

It was mainly family pics - they have I child that I’d say is around 4 yrs old