Found Deceased UK - Samantha Eastwood, 28, Stoke-on-Trent, 27 July 2018 *Arrest*

[PaulSimon]

Well this is defiantly more harrowing as more details emerge.

The police clearly know a lot about all of this and they knew it pretty fast as well, the fact he was arrested days after she went missing for "kidnap" although the body hadn't been found at that point, but now the details pretty much clarify she was kidnapped, and assumingly was still alive when she was taken from the house. Which also means they know a lot more about this situation than they have released to the press.

Was it a moment of madness, I mean, you would think by leaving himself so blindly open like this to being caught that it was, because to me while there is a lot going on it also doesn't really feel well thought through.

Maybe he went to confront her over whatever the issue was, and it got out of hand, hes decided to tape her up and move her away from the house to make a decision of what to with her, knowing there was no way back he has then killed her. But then again the "threats" make it seem like he possibly did pre-plan it and maybe roped in his father and friend to help.

Man, this must be one huge motive/issue for someone to do this, or the guy was already stark raving crazy.

 

[Sark06]

I think this was about payment for the shed, it is reported they had a falling out in recent weeks, that's not how you would describe an affair going wrong,

Well this is defiantly more harrowing as more details emerge.

The police clearly know a lot about all of this and they knew it pretty fast as well, the fact he was arrested days after she went missing for "kidnap" although the body hadn't been found at that point, but now the details pretty much clarify she was kidnapped, and assumingly was still alive when she was taken from the house. Which also means they know a lot more about this situation than they have released to the press.

Was it a moment of madness, I mean, you would think by leaving himself so blindly open like this to being caught that it was, because to me while there is a lot going on it also doesn't really feel well thought through.

Maybe he went to confront her over whatever the issue was, and it got out of hand, hes decided to tape her up and move her away from the house to make a decision of what to with her, knowing there was no way back he has then killed her. But then again the "threats" make it seem like he possibly did pre-plan it and maybe roped in his father and friend to help.

Man, this must be one huge motive/issue for someone to do this, or the guy was already stark raving crazy.

I think more or less the same and I think money and pride will be the motive

 

[jslk]

Harrowing is the word. I feel so awful for the families.

 

[truthfinder34]

Harrowing is the word. I feel so awful for the families.

especially JP. that poor bloke had his picture and private life splashed all over the media and not to mention the trolls accusing him of murdering SE. I really hope justice is served and the families are left alone to grieve. I thought it was disgusting that JP and GE were filmed visiting the house. This should have been a private moment for them.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Yes, very true.
I just cant figure out why he would put tape onto her face, post mortem. As has been said, the duvet could cover her head and face if he didnt want to look at her. Still, I suppose in a panic, anything is possible.

We don't know how long he took to figure out disposal. Maybe the tape was at hand where he killed her but he had to go and get the duvet. He would also have to put the body in the duvet and perhaps he could not stand to see her face when doing that.
I am guessing the duvet covering her up also points at some relationship with the victim and concern. If he just saw her as an object maybe he wouldn't cover the body with anything.

 

[Yozzer]

I wonder if the duvet cover indicates where the crime occurred? Did he remove it from the duvet on SE's bed or from a cupboard? If the former, her family/JP/colleagues would have spotted it missing when they went to her home on the Friday evening. I see no link between a duvet being used and SE/MS having a relationship. More that it is a convenient means of removal/disposal of SE.

If SE had just come off a night shift, she would have needed a sleep. If MS had been given or obtained a house key, he may have entered without her knowledge and disturbed her, hence the scream. I haven't read anything about whether she was found clothed or otherwise. Poor woman.

 

[truthfinder34]

I think this was about payment for the shed, it is reported they had a falling out in recent weeks, that's not how you would describe an affair going wrong,

I think more or less the same and I think money and pride will be the motive

I disagree tbh maybe payment over the shed was used to cover up the real reason for the argument. An affair is usually something both parties would want to keep quiet about. If I had an affair for example I'm not sure j would be telling people in fear of people judging me.

I still can't get my head around the masking tape though. I'm swaying more to the applied after death theory but why would he go to such great efforts to hide her face. also any sort of tape would hold his DNA but by the sounds of it this wasn't very thought out at all.

 

[truthfinder34]

We don't know how long he took to figure out disposal. Maybe the tape was at hand where he killed her but he had to go and get the duvet. He would also have to put the body in the duvet and perhaps he could not stand to see her face when doing that.
I am guessing the duvet covering her up also points at some relationship with the victim and concern. If he just saw her as an object maybe he wouldn't cover the body .

I think he covered her body to remove her from the house. it sounds like he moved her car so he could pull his van up closer to the back door. He must of been gone from his family home for sometime to be able to do all of this, I think this is where his dad comes into play as an alibi

 

[Mellowmelly]

I disagree tbh maybe payment over the shed was used to cover up the real reason for the argument. An affair is usually something both parties would want to keep quiet about. If I had an affair for example I'm not sure j would be telling people in fear of people judging me.

I still can't get my head around the masking tape though. I'm swaying more to the applied after death theory but why would he go to such great efforts to hide her face. also any sort of tape would hold his DNA but by the sounds of it this wasn't very thought out at all.

I think what someone else has just said, he had to figure out a disposal site for her body so he must have been storing her body somewhere until then. Her eyes were probably open and it was probably haunting every time he looked at her. Either that or he put it on prior to her death which would suggest kidnapping somehow.

 

[Elainera]

Given the fact that they have called experts in to look at her neck, which apparently has no obvious signs of strangulation, I believe he put the tape on her beforehand and she suffocated because of it.

 

[Alyce]

I wonder if the duvet cover indicates where the crime occurred? Did he remove it from the duvet on SE's bed or from a cupboard? If the former, her family/JP/colleagues would have spotted it missing when they went to her home on the Friday evening. I see no link between a duvet being used and SE/MS having a relationship. More that it is a convenient means of removal/disposal of SE.

If SE had just come off a night shift, she would have needed a sleep. If MS had been given or obtained a house key, he may have entered without her knowledge and disturbed her, hence the scream. I haven't read anything about whether she was found clothed or otherwise. Poor woman.

I agree re the duvet cover. Even though the house is reasonably private on the side where the rear door is, he would still need something to cover her/wrap her in.
Possibly family would not immediately think it odd, if the duvet was not on the bed. Given the very hot weather we have had/are having, they might have initially thought SE had just taken the duvet off the bed and was using only a top sheet.
In time, if they were then asked to do a thorough search of the house, it might become apparent that a duvet was missing, but not immediately I think.

 

[truthfinder34]

Rural searches for missing midwife

this report states that the police where asking for cctv for 9am- 11am the day SE reported missing. I'd say this suggests the murder and disposal was only a matter of hours. it makes kidnap unlikely but maybe it was a kidnap gone wrong. If he was due to go on holiday the same day I bet his wife questioned where he was but maybe this is where his dad comes into play with an alibi. Would the dad be on bail if he helped dispose the body?

 

[PaulSimon]

I am thinking kidnap gone wrong, I have a feeling that he has tried to scare her and its gone horribly wrong. At this point we don't know much about his character, but he is a family man with a small child. Obviously I don't know him, but he just doesn't seem like a cold blooded killer. The whole scenario doesn't seem like its been thought out well.

We know he threatened her, but no one has confirmed these were "death threats" maybe hes threatened to harm her over the issue, he's turned up at her house to scare her, hes tied her up and lead her away somewhere and she has suffocated to death. In a panic he has then called his father and friend and they have come and helped dispose of the body in the quarry. I wonder if he has confessed to someone? Maybe Katie? and thats how they pinned him down so fast and also knew it was kidnap?

This is in no way defending the actions here BTW, But just some food for thought. Maybe this guy began with the threats and bitten off alot more than he could chew.

 

[Yozzer]

'CCTV footage, telephone evidence and automatic number plate recognition data are also set to form part of the evidence at trial.'

Samantha Eastwood's body found in shallow grave eight days after disappearance, court hears

 

[Elainera]

The more I think about it the more I find it likely that he's addicted to a substance he believed she could get for him. The murder and disposal looks pretty crazy from what we know so far and was obviously not well planned which could fit an addict's behaviour.

 

[Sarahlou]

I don't think this was anything gone wrong at all. I think he planned it and the tape was put on before she died. I just think he wasn't very smart.

 

[truthfinder34]

The more I think about it the more I find it likely that he's addicted to a substance he believed she could get for him. The murder and disposal looks pretty crazy from what we know so far and was obviously not well planned which could fit an addict's behaviour.

I don't think drugs are involved. It sounds like she loved her job and wouldnt risk that. Plus where MS lives it's pretty rife with drugs it wouldn't be too hard for him to get hold of them if he was an addict.

I can't help but think romantic or infatuation was the cause. It's not like he has a fixed place of work or hours so it would be easy for him to have an affair without KS knowledge.

 

[User1111]

I'm thinking he may have put tape on face and nose then placed something in her mouth to either intentionally suffocate her or to gag her but accidentally suffocated her.

Would sexual assaults etc have been mentioned at this point? I can think of other reasons a man may keep her mouth uncovered during a sexual attack. Or even a game gone wrong - though a scream would suggest not.

 

[Elainera]

I don't think drugs are involved. It sounds like she loved her job and wouldnt risk that. Plus where MS lives it's pretty rife with drugs it wouldn't be too hard for him to get hold of them if he was an addict.

I can't help but think romantic or infatuation was the cause. It's not like he has a fixed place of work or hours so it would be easy for him to have an affair without KS knowledge.

bbm Well that was my point, as I explained in a previous post, she would have none of it and that's how they had a fall out.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Reports it will take 6 months to find cause of death.

Police reveal it could take 6 MONTHS to determine midwife's cause of death