Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #14

[Nikynoo]

Can anyone on here who knows explain what happens at the sentencing hearing. Does the prosecution’s full narrative of the case get read out? Or does Couzens have to confess or given an account? Or if there no more evidence to be released and the judge sentences on the basis of what has already been revealed in court?

(I’ve seen he hasn’t told the whole story and that police are still trying ascertain, with evidence, exactly when and where she died - is this for the family, or will this go to sentencing? Or is this a nice to have and, ultimately, given the guilty plea and evidence to date he is still likely to get a life sentence with no parole).

Well, they are discussing precedents for whole life sentences, so I am assuming that is what the prosecution want to pursue.

Yes, the prosecution will have to piece together a narrative and the judge will base the sentence on that. I do not know whether the defence wil try to entice the defendant into giving more detail in return for a few years off, but really, it will make no difference. WC will never be released.

 

[infinit]

According to this there were allegations against him for indecent exposure in 2015!

Police ‘failed to investigate Sarah Everard’s murderer Wayne Couzens for indecent exposure in 2015’

If this is the case I worry that he has a long and disturbing backstory.

My only hope is that based on the facts of the spectacular fails he has made and the fact he needed time off work directly after the murder, that this level of crime was new to him. But certainly sounds like he could have been on the track of a serial killer.

I can imagine that if the case had died down and he began to believe he'd got away with it that his stressed persona would switch to being even more confident.

 

[jimbob5]

Makes you wonder why London? Probably the most CCTV covered place in the entire country. There are so many places between Dover & London where there would’ve been plenty of women walking home. But he chose to drive back to London ???

He also looks so much older in the mugshot posted by the met than any other picture that’s been released so far

Probably familiarity. He looks like a 90 year old Moby.

 

[jimbob5]

Can anyone on here who knows explain what happens at the sentencing hearing. Does the prosecution’s full narrative of the case get read out? Or does Couzens have to confess or given an account? Or if there no more evidence to be released and the judge sentences on the basis of what has already been revealed in court?

(I’ve seen he hasn’t told the whole story and that police are still trying ascertain, with evidence, exactly when and where she died - is this for the family, or will this go to sentencing? Or is this a nice to have and, ultimately, given the guilty plea and evidence to date he is still likely to get a life sentence with no parole).

Most likely it will be mental health reports for mitigation & a bargaining-potentially he might get a lighter sentence for telling the whole story, but he is under no obligation to. I would imagine he will get 30 minimum, but being such a high profile case I could see even longer.

 

[jimbob5]

Twelve officers investigated by police watchdog over case of Sarah Everard's killer

This stuff seems to be happening a lot lately-like those two sisters who were murdered last year.

 

[Newthoughts]

He was already being investigated for sexual assault allegations, but was still working. Scotland Yard screwed up big-that is why they threw everything they had at it.

I know this is from a another case that was covered by websleuths so I'm hoping it's ok to mention it but it is relevant here.

WC is not the first murdering rapist to have engaged in indecent exposure / non contact sexual crimes. He's not the first to have that crime given a low priority and therefore little resources. So I think this appeal by the mother of Libby Squires to have such crime treated far more seriously is very important. And to have women who report them taken seriously.

They should be seen as potential gateways to far worse and treatment an important part of serious crime prevention.

https://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-57736850.amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#aoh=16258345230292&amp_ct=1625834593110&csi=1&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s

 

[thatssoamy]

In regards to how he got her in the car, both passenger doors open. Probably used the warrant card to get her to stop walking and talk to him, possibly he's then got her in the back of the car by force, she's handcuffed to the footwell, tape over the mouth. She can't move then through the journey. Both passenger doors open, maybe couzens is bent down into the passenger side and he cannot be seen via the footage so it just looks like both doors are open and nobody about.

Shocking just how premeditated this all is, and surprisingly how he used such a busy area of London. Wonder if he'd fantasised about it for so long that he just snapped, had to do it at all costs and just didn't care about being caught. Maybe thought bc he was a police officer that his colleagues would stick up for him he'd have more chance of them believing him.

 

[infinit]

In regards to how he got her in the car, both passenger doors open. Probably used the warrant card to get her to stop walking and talk to him, possibly he's then got her in the back of the car by force, she's handcuffed to the footwell, tape over the mouth. She can't move then through the journey. Both passenger doors open, maybe couzens is bent down into the passenger side and he cannot be seen via the footage so it just looks like both doors are open and nobody about.

Shocking just how premeditated this all is, and surprisingly how he used such a busy area of London. Wonder if he'd fantasised about it for so long that he just snapped, had to do it at all costs and just didn't care about being caught. Maybe thought bc he was a police officer that his colleagues would stick up for him he'd have more chance of them believing him.

I think it would make sense that the case of indecent exposure three days before at the Mcdonalds and the fact nothing had happened probably gave him more confidence.

 

[Skigh]

Wife of killer cop haunted over never spotting 'signs' after he admitted to Sarah Everard's murder | Daily Mail Online

 

[glitterskin]

My guess at the time was it was something like using the warrant card, explain he's off duty but that she's being followed- explain that he's based out of Brixton station or something (further South) and he'll take her there for a statement and to see if there is any CCTV and then get her home. Therefore she'd potentially be fairly relaxed for some time into the journey.

I have wondered about this too and what keeps coming to mind is Sarah's phone. The lack of any activity or even tower pings on her phone after they meet suggests to me that it was disabled by him. Even if she was comfortable believing he was a well meaning police officer helping her out, I can't think of a plausible reason for her to voluntarily switch her phone off. It's possible her battery ran out of course, but it seems a) way too lucky for WC for it to run out at that exact moment, and b) unlikely for him to not think of that as a potential avenue for tracking her and therefore him.

All this makes me feel that the balance of probability supports him incapacitating her somehow very soon after she entered the car.

Now it seems that there was a fair amount of premeditation and planning to this and he appeared to act at a random opportunity, I am even more struck and shaken by just how horribly unlucky Sarah was. Just an inconceivably terrible thing to have happened.

All MOO

 

[Skigh]

PC Wayne Couzens, 48, pleads guilty to Sarah Everard's murder | Daily Mail Online

 

[Alyce]

dbm

 

[Alyce]

Wife of killer cop haunted over never spotting 'signs' after he admitted to Sarah Everard's murder | Daily Mail Online

Not sure it's the best day for her to be doing an interview

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

At last he has owned up to his crime. I don't think his sentence will be short, or easy given the nature of it and his profession.

I hope his wife and children can move on from this. I do fear for the kids as others will know who they are and there is room for bullying and taunting. I thought she would probably have moved right away from the area and started a life somewhere else.

 

[infinit]

Not sure it's the best day for her to be doing an interview

I imagine she's not been allowed to talk about it while she was on bail and then while the trial was happening. I agree the timing isn't but great but think it would be devestating for anyone to realise the partner they lived with and had kids with was this type of monster, her kids have lost their father pretty much now and now she's going to have to figure out a way to bring them up without his salary. All because of his actions.

 

[proclee]

Not sure it's the best day for her to be doing an interview

Tbh it says “speaking before he plead guilty” so they’ve likely knocked on her front door at some point this week and she’s said what’s she said and they’ve withheld until today for maximum clicks.
You can understand her wanting to make a point she definitely had no idea and offer sympathy/condolences.. she’s got to live with the fall out from his heinous actions all while trying to raise 2 kids at an already awkward age

 

[Alyce]

Speaking of the probe into the murder, Lord Justice Fulford said: “This has been a mammoth investigation which has produced some very significant results in terms of being able to understand what happened.”

He set a two-day sentencing from September 29 for a murder that caused shock and outrage across the UK.


Evil killer cop Wayne Couzens pleads guilty to murder of Sarah Everard

 

[infinit]

At last he has owned up to his crime. I don't think his sentence will be short, or easy given the nature of it and his profession.

I hope his wife and children can move on from this. I do fear for the kids as others will know who they are and there is room for bullying and taunting. I thought she would probably have moved right away from the area and started a life somewhere else.

I mean the sad fact is, she probably can't afford a mortgage and bring up 2 kids (Not many can alone in Kent!), the only thing she'll have is her job which is in the area. I bet applying for jobs is interesting when all this comes up in a Google search. So I imagine she's between a rock and a hard place.

He's ended Sarah's life and destroyed his families' in the process.

 

[Dotta]

At last he has owned up to his crime. I don't think his sentence will be short, or easy given the nature of it and his profession.

I hope his wife and children can move on from this. I do fear for the kids as others will know who they are and there is room for bullying and taunting. I thought she would probably have moved right away from the area and started a life somewhere else.

Wasnt the wife held on bail? Is she acquitted now? Sorry, I dont remember the details. Also, the kids returning to the same school is not a good idea in my opinion. Of course, they didn't do anything wrong so they shouldn't run away, but still. Their school life will not be easy Im afraid.

 

[SmallNut]

Tbh it says “speaking before he plead guilty” so they’ve likely knocked on her front door at some point this week and she’s said what’s she said and they’ve withheld until today for maximum clicks.
You can understand her wanting to make a point she definitely had no idea and offer sympathy/condolences.. she’s got to live with the fall out from his heinous actions all while trying to raise 2 kids at an already awkward age

In the article she says she wishes the last 3 months never happened so presume she was doorstepped in early June.