UK UK - Sarah Wellgreen, 46, Kent, 9 Oct 2018 #2 *B. Lacomba guilty*

[deugirtni]

There's a fair chance it's a Menu. Moo

You mean from the court staff trying to figure out what to order for lunch?

 

[deugirtni]

I didn't hear anything from the judge telling the jurors not to look at newspapers, social media, or whatever, on the case, whilst they are in this phase? Now they have 4.5 days to ponder, etc. Ugh, hate this!

 

[mrazda71]

I didn't hear anything from the judge telling the jurors not to look at newspapers, social media, or whatever, on the case, whilst they are in this phase? Now they have 4.5 days to ponder, etc. Ugh, hate this!

I'm absolutely certain that jurors are told that kind of stuff at the outset.

As for your other questions regarding the judges words ...

When you are arrested here in the UK, police say these words to you "You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence if you fail to mention when questioned anything which you later rely on in court"

Judge says - He made no comment in answer to all the questions he was asked.

So basically, IF you're innocent, if you have nothing to hide, then there's really no need to reply 'no comment' to everything - even if your solicitor advises you you to - you don't have to BUT ... and here's the but - IF you choose to answer no comment on arrest then any excuse, explanation, etc that you come up with in the witness box will be treated with a 'little bit of side eye' ... if that was the truth then why not just say it when police asked you?

For example, if my daughter disappeared and I KNEW it wasn't me, but I was arrested on suspicion of her murder - would I help be saying no comment! The police would be struggling to shut me up! I would tell them every single minor discretion I'd done and I'd be telling them it wasn't me and begging them to please go and find my daughter or whomever had took her.

He did not give a poop that she was missing. Not one single damn was given.

 

[Noseyjosie]

There have been many photos posted since S disappeared. Which one is the most recent one? It wouldn't surprise me at all if she were 13 stone.

Personally I didn't think she looked that bulky (probably the wrong word, sorry) in the CCTV from the morning. Like already said though, I think BL would have wanted to give the impression of her being heavier

 

[Tortoise]

I think it's likely they have been given the rest of the week off because it's school half term this week (at least it is where I live). Jurors who are parents (or indeed judge/barristers) may have had pre-booked commitments. I'm guessing same applies for Bill Taylor trial.

 

[Delisa]

I'm not sure if this is against the rules because I've only joined for this case at first but.....

Is there a thread for the Essex Lorry deaths concerning the 39 people they just found dead in Grays?

 

[Skigh]

I'm not sure if this is against the rules because I've only joined for this case at first but.....

Is there a thread for the Essex Lorry deaths concerning the 39 people they just found dead in Grays?

UK - 39 bodies found in lorry, Essex, 23 October 2019

 

[Mrs Marple]

I'm not sure if this is against the rules because I've only joined for this case at first but.....

Is there a thread for the Essex Lorry deaths concerning the 39 people they just found dead in Grays?

I've sent you a message.

 

[deugirtni]

Personally I didn't think she looked that bulky (probably the wrong word, sorry) in the CCTV from the morning. Like already said though, I think BL would have wanted to give the impression of her being heavier

Does anyone have a link for that CCTV from the morning? I haven't seen it. It may be blocked for my location. TIA

 

[Alyce]

Does anyone have a link for that CCTV from the morning? I haven't seen it. It may be blocked for my location. TIA

Video: Last sighting of 'murdered' mother-of-five Sarah Wellgreen | Daily Mail Online

 

[mrazda71]

It's just gone 3.30 a.m here in the uk and I'm wide awake because ... my daft Cockapoo woke me up crying and seemed unable to get up- heart pounding panic stumble out of bed to realise her back foot claw is somehow stuck in her curly ear fur!


Something has occurred to me in this silly o'clock thread reading ...

When child witness says that they woke in the night and mum wasn't in wet bed and Dad was not in bed so they went downstairs to watch tv then 'Dad came back from taxi driving' ... Ben claims child is 'mistaken' and he was just outside investigating cat noises?

If I heard animal noises outside i MIGHT go out and look BUT i wouldn't get fully dressed in normal clothes and shoes to do that ... and if i had to go our, in the middle of the night to be a taxi driver or ... y'know, dispose of my ex's body however... i wouldn't be doing it in my 'whatever I (Or Ben in this case) wears for bed ... is this making sense?

Kid is downstairs watching tv - I'd guess the front door was shut and at some point Ben has to unlock it and come in - with keys? Fully dressed? Like he'd been OUT out? Or door on the latch or ajar and in his nightwear (PJ's/boxers/dressing gown etc) looking like her just popped outside to see what the animal noises were all about ...


Also ... does anyone recall the local who posted pages back who said Ben had been to his house in the months prior to Sarah going missing and was 'moaning about her' ... I have a question for them but I can't recall the username to tag them and I'm on my phone shook search option is useless

 

[deugirtni]

We get 'animal noises' in the night sometimes where I live. Sometimes it sounds like (seriously) some poor animal is getting totally murdered and mutilated. Going out there would be the last thing I'd want to get caught up in. Some of those night animals are danged scary. jmo.

 

[chimpface]

We get 'animal noises' in the night sometimes where I live. Sometimes it sounds like (seriously) some poor animal is getting totally murdered and mutilated. Going out there would be the last thing I'd want to get caught up in. Some of those night animals are danged scary. jmo.

We don't get dangerous wild animals in the UK. Unless they were your own cats you could hear I don't know why anyone would go outside to "investigate" the noises. Complete bull ox.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

It's just gone 3.30 a.m here in the uk and I'm wide awake because ... my daft Cockapoo woke me up crying and seemed unable to get up- heart pounding panic stumble out of bed to realise her back foot claw is somehow stuck in her curly ear fur!


Something has occurred to me in this silly o'clock thread reading ...

When child witness says that they woke in the night and mum wasn't in wet bed and Dad was not in bed so they went downstairs to watch tv then 'Dad came back from taxi driving' ... Ben claims child is 'mistaken' and he was just outside investigating cat noises?

If I heard animal noises outside i MIGHT go out and look BUT i wouldn't get fully dressed in normal clothes and shoes to do that ... and if i had to go our, in the middle of the night to be a taxi driver or ... y'know, dispose of my ex's body however... i wouldn't be doing it in my 'whatever I (Or Ben in this case) wears for bed ... is this making sense?

Kid is downstairs watching tv - I'd guess the front door was shut and at some point Ben has to unlock it and come in - with keys? Fully dressed? Like he'd been OUT out? Or door on the latch or ajar and in his nightwear (PJ's/boxers/dressing gown etc) looking like her just popped outside to see what the animal noises were all about ...


Also ... does anyone recall the local who posted pages back who said Ben had been to his house in the months prior to Sarah going missing and was 'moaning about her' ... I have a question for them but I can't recall the username to tag them and I'm on my phone shook search option is useless

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wookielover185Member
Welcome! Great to have new members, even better to have members with local knowledge!

What is the feeling locally?

not 100% sure to be honest - i'm normally at work. when the searches where going on every one was involved - literally everyone and the feeling then was that he had done it. the whole " we lived acrimoniously" is rubbish. He was always complaining about his ex . he came around my house once (which was a surreal experience and about 8 months before the disappearance) and all he did was moan about her then.



@mrazda71

 

[mrazda71]

@Spy Versus Spy Thank you! I'd never have remembered WookieLovers name

 

[mrazda71]

Double post

 

[mrazda71]

We get 'animal noises' in the night sometimes where I live. Sometimes it sounds like (seriously) some poor animal is getting totally murdered and mutilated. Going out there would be the last thing I'd want to get caught up in. Some of those night animals are danged scary. jmo.

As mentioned, we don't have dangerous animals here in the UK.

I would and have gone out in the middle of the night to investigate either an animal noise or people shouting for help

BUT ... I did NOT get fully dressed in regular clothes and shoes! Even when I've had to call 999, I've gone outside to wait in my PJ's and dressing gown.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

@Spy Versus Spy Thank you! I'd never have remembered WookieLovers name

Especially as it appears there are at least 185 of them...

 

[mrazda71]

Menfolk of Websleuth (for I myself am a laydeeee) - a question ...

IF you were woken by a noise of any kind outside in the middle of the night and you went to investigate -

What would you be wearing to do so and would you take you're keys or leave the door open or on the latch (closed but not locked)

 

[Alyce]

Menfolk of Websleuth (for I myself am a laydeeee) - a question ...

IF you were woken by a noise of any kind outside in the middle of the night and you went to investigate -

What would you be wearing to do so and would you take you're keys or leave the door open or on the latch (closed but not locked)

On behalf of my OH ( not a WS member ) I can verify that he would ( and has ) gone out in PJs, would not take keys, would just leave door closed but not locked ( and only reason door would be closed would be to ensure our cats didnt get out )