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14:32KEY EVENT
Alleged movements of Lacomba's car on October 10, 2018
The red Vauxhall Zafira allegedly spotted on CCTV on the morning of October 10 (Image: JIM BENNETT)
A car was seen leaving Bazes Shaw in the early hours of Wednesday, October 10 after Sarah Wellgreen arrived home the previous evening at 7.57pm (October 9) - the last time she was seen.
Alison Morgan QC, prosecuting, explains the route the car, alleged to be Lacomba’s, takes out of Bazes Shaw towards the viillage of Stansted and where it is spotted on CCTV.
Jurors are shown the glimpses of a car travelling along the route from New Ash Green to Stansted between 2.13am and 2.20am. This is where it is seen along the way on CCTV:
Ms Morgan QC says the CCTV clips at Longview and Littlefields were the “best glimpses of the car”.
Det Sgt Warton said: “Once you get to the Hilltop area, there are a variety of routes that could have been taken.”
The vehicle is then not seen again for two hours,
At 4.20am, the vehicle is spotted coming the opposite direction at Littlefields and follows same route back to New Ash Green in reverse.
At 4.27am, it’s the last time the vehicle is sighted in Church Road.
Footage is shown to jurors of CCTV from 23 Bazes Shaw on the night of October 9/10 - at 4.31am, and event is captured on CCTV in the area of 32 Bazes Shaw. At 4.52am, a similar event is captured on same camera - described by Alison Morgan QC as a “reflection of light”. The prosecution said at the opening of the case, they believe it to be a car locking.
Take a look at the map of Lacomba’s alleged route on the morning of October 10 below.
These are the points where Lacomba's vehicle was allegedly spotted on CCTV footage on the morning of October 10, 2018
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Alleged movements of Lacomba's car on October 10, 2018
The red Vauxhall Zafira allegedly spotted on CCTV on the morning of October 10 (Image: JIM BENNETT)
A car was seen leaving Bazes Shaw in the early hours of Wednesday, October 10 after Sarah Wellgreen arrived home the previous evening at 7.57pm (October 9) - the last time she was seen.
Alison Morgan QC, prosecuting, explains the route the car, alleged to be Lacomba’s, takes out of Bazes Shaw towards the viillage of Stansted and where it is spotted on CCTV.
Jurors are shown the glimpses of a car travelling along the route from New Ash Green to Stansted between 2.13am and 2.20am. This is where it is seen along the way on CCTV:
- Blue Firs in Church Road
- Orchard House in Church Road
- Longview in Hartley Hill
- Hill View in Hartley Bottom Road
- Berry’s Maple in Pease Hill
- Hollands Farm in Plaxdale Green Road
- Littlefields in Plaxdale Green Road
Ms Morgan QC says the CCTV clips at Longview and Littlefields were the “best glimpses of the car”.
Det Sgt Warton said: “Once you get to the Hilltop area, there are a variety of routes that could have been taken.”
The vehicle is then not seen again for two hours,
At 4.20am, the vehicle is spotted coming the opposite direction at Littlefields and follows same route back to New Ash Green in reverse.
At 4.27am, it’s the last time the vehicle is sighted in Church Road.
Footage is shown to jurors of CCTV from 23 Bazes Shaw on the night of October 9/10 - at 4.31am, and event is captured on CCTV in the area of 32 Bazes Shaw. At 4.52am, a similar event is captured on same camera - described by Alison Morgan QC as a “reflection of light”. The prosecution said at the opening of the case, they believe it to be a car locking.
Take a look at the map of Lacomba’s alleged route on the morning of October 10 below.
These are the points where Lacomba's vehicle was allegedly spotted on CCTV footage on the morning of October 10, 2018
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14:55
More CCTV evidence describes Ben Lacomba's movements
Ben Lacomba (Image: Facebook)
Jurors are now hearing - in detail - how CCTV captured Ben Lacomba’s movements late at night and in the early hours in Dartford and Greenhithe.
Specifically, at 11.18am he was seen getting out of the car by Serenity Court, Evelyn Walk by the water in Greenhithe before getting back into car at 11.22pm.
He initially stays in the car for a minute before getting out of the car.
The flashing seen on CCTV, jurors were told “appears to be” from locking the car, according to Det Sgt Wharton.
Lacomba parks on the corner across the road from the Serenity Court camera.
He walks away from the car and out of shot before coming back into shot, getting into his car, sitting in the car for a little over a minute again and then driving away.at 11.24pm
He returns to Bazes Shaw in New Ash Green - the home he shared with Sarah Wellgreen - at 12.06am and parks in car park 1.
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More CCTV evidence describes Ben Lacomba's movements
Ben Lacomba (Image: Facebook)
Jurors are now hearing - in detail - how CCTV captured Ben Lacomba’s movements late at night and in the early hours in Dartford and Greenhithe.
Specifically, at 11.18am he was seen getting out of the car by Serenity Court, Evelyn Walk by the water in Greenhithe before getting back into car at 11.22pm.
He initially stays in the car for a minute before getting out of the car.
The flashing seen on CCTV, jurors were told “appears to be” from locking the car, according to Det Sgt Wharton.
Lacomba parks on the corner across the road from the Serenity Court camera.
He walks away from the car and out of shot before coming back into shot, getting into his car, sitting in the car for a little over a minute again and then driving away.at 11.24pm
He returns to Bazes Shaw in New Ash Green - the home he shared with Sarah Wellgreen - at 12.06am and parks in car park 1.
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Thanks Legally, this is great - really helps to see the layout of the houses and car parks
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14:55
More CCTV evidence describes Ben Lacomba's movements
Ben Lacomba (Image: Facebook)
Jurors are now hearing - in detail - how CCTV captured Ben Lacomba’s movements late at night and in the early hours in Dartford and Greenhithe.
Specifically, at 11.18am he was seen getting out of the car by Serenity Court, Evelyn Walk by the water in Greenhithe before getting back into car at 11.22pm.
He initially stays in the car for a minute before getting out of the car.
The flashing seen on CCTV, jurors were told “appears to be” from locking the car, according to Det Sgt Wharton.
Lacomba parks on the corner across the road from the Serenity Court camera.
He walks away from the car and out of shot before coming back into shot, getting into his car, sitting in the car for a little over a minute again and then driving away.at 11.24pm
He returns to Bazes Shaw in New Ash Green - the home he shared with Sarah Wellgreen - at 12.06am and parks in car park 1.
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I'm puzzled now. Is this the evening of October 9 ? and did he drive there with the intention of putting SW into the water ? before deciding against that plan.
Or is this a few nights later - the night that we have seen reported in earlier msm articles, when they showed grainy pics of a man and a red car ?
( HayLouise, not meaning to ask you what the answer is
just the reporting is not clear )
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15:39
Cross-examination
Det Sgt Warton is now being questioned by Ben Lacomba’s defence counsel Rebecca Trowler QC.
“My questions now are about the night before” she says.
“The first time this light comes on is 11.54pm and it stays on until just before 12.13am. It comes on later at 2.02am until it goes off at about 2.11am.”
Jurors are then shown this footage of the light coming on twice during the night before.
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Cross-examination
Det Sgt Warton is now being questioned by Ben Lacomba’s defence counsel Rebecca Trowler QC.
“My questions now are about the night before” she says.
“The first time this light comes on is 11.54pm and it stays on until just before 12.13am. It comes on later at 2.02am until it goes off at about 2.11am.”
Jurors are then shown this footage of the light coming on twice during the night before.
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I think it's clearer in the opening speech, it was 14th Oct:I'm puzzled now. Is this the evening of October 9 ? and did he drive there with the intention of putting SW into the water ? before deciding against that plan.
Or is this a few nights later - the night that we have seen reported in earlier msm articles, when they showed grainy pics of a man and a red car ?
( HayLouise, not meaning to ask you what the answer is
RSBM.
15:47
Forensic imagery expert gives evidence
The red Vauxhall Zafira allegedly spotted on CCTV on the morning of October 10 (Image: JIM BENNETT)
Danny George Wheeler, senior forensic imagery analyst with 13 years experience, is now giving evidence about the CCTV footage.
“There is no dispute that the moving vehicle is Mr Lacomba’s taxi? asks prosecutor Ms Morgan
Wheeler answers: “Yes”
The local authority taxi plate, “All Night Cars” printed on both front doors and the aerial on the top of the car were significant in vehicle comparison, the court hears.
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Forensic imagery expert gives evidence
The red Vauxhall Zafira allegedly spotted on CCTV on the morning of October 10 (Image: JIM BENNETT)
Danny George Wheeler, senior forensic imagery analyst with 13 years experience, is now giving evidence about the CCTV footage.
“There is no dispute that the moving vehicle is Mr Lacomba’s taxi? asks prosecutor Ms Morgan
Wheeler answers: “Yes”
The local authority taxi plate, “All Night Cars” printed on both front doors and the aerial on the top of the car were significant in vehicle comparison, the court hears.
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16:12
Vehicle 'similarities'
In court, the car seen in CCTV footage is being described as Vehicle X, and is being compared to Lacomba’s taxi. Giving evidence, Mr Wheeler told jurors:
The car seen in the footage was “a similar size”
Its bonnet “wasn’t clearly visible but both appear to be quite short”
There was similarity in brake light, luggage compartment, the location of the registration plate and the sloping angle of the rear window
The front post had the “same shallow sloped angle” but the central post wasn’t visible
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Vehicle 'similarities'
In court, the car seen in CCTV footage is being described as Vehicle X, and is being compared to Lacomba’s taxi. Giving evidence, Mr Wheeler told jurors:
The car seen in the footage was “a similar size”
Its bonnet “wasn’t clearly visible but both appear to be quite short”
There was similarity in brake light, luggage compartment, the location of the registration plate and the sloping angle of the rear window
The front post had the “same shallow sloped angle” but the central post wasn’t visible
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16:28
Defence questions witness on whether Vehicle X is the same car as seen in CCTV footage
Rebecca Trowler QC:
“I am not directly challenging you in your conclusion that there is some support for vehicle x being a Vauxhall Zafira because that is what your evidence comes to.
“Not strong support for it being the same make and model and certainly not powerful support.”
Vehicle X was some distance away when passing the camera at Longview. You said that significantly limits the detail that you’ve got to work with. This recording was made at night which reduces the detail available to you.
She continues
“Is it the vehicle owned by Mr Lacomba? No one in the courtroom must make the mistake of looking at the images of Mr Lacomba’s vehicle and then looking at the footage in a biased way.”
“Everything you found as a similarity relates to whether it is the same make and model, not the same car.”
Ms Trowler questions whether the car in the footage actually had an aerial or a taxi badge
“The features that you identified could belong to other makes and models of vehicle” she asks
Wheeler replies: “Yes”
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Defence questions witness on whether Vehicle X is the same car as seen in CCTV footage
Rebecca Trowler QC:
“I am not directly challenging you in your conclusion that there is some support for vehicle x being a Vauxhall Zafira because that is what your evidence comes to.
“Not strong support for it being the same make and model and certainly not powerful support.”
Vehicle X was some distance away when passing the camera at Longview. You said that significantly limits the detail that you’ve got to work with. This recording was made at night which reduces the detail available to you.
She continues
“Is it the vehicle owned by Mr Lacomba? No one in the courtroom must make the mistake of looking at the images of Mr Lacomba’s vehicle and then looking at the footage in a biased way.”
“Everything you found as a similarity relates to whether it is the same make and model, not the same car.”
Ms Trowler questions whether the car in the footage actually had an aerial or a taxi badge
“The features that you identified could belong to other makes and models of vehicle” she asks
Wheeler replies: “Yes”
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Sarah Wellgreen: CCTV at missing mum's home 'switched off' on night of death
A jury at Woolwich Crown Court heard how the CCTV system at Sarah Wellgreen's New Ash Green home was switched off on October 10 last year
Sarah Wellgreen: CCTV at missing mum's home 'switched off' on night of death
Sarah Wellgreen: CCTV at missing mum's home 'switched off' on night of death
A jury at Woolwich Crown Court heard how the CCTV system at Sarah Wellgreen's New Ash Green home was switched off on October 10 last year
Sarah Wellgreen: CCTV at missing mum's home 'switched off' on night of death
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Sarah Wellgreen murder trial: Footage played to court of moment Ben Lacomba allegedly turned CCTV off
The moment Ben Lacomba is said to have turned his own CCTV cameras off to avoid detection on the night he’s alleged to have murdered ex partner Sarah Wellgreen, has been played out in court.
Police scoured 22,000 hours of CCTV footage - from surrounding streets and properties, and number 22 Bazes Shaw, New Ash Green, itself, where the estranged couple had been living together - as part of the investigation into Sarah’s disappearance on the night of October 9-10 last year.
CCTV allegedly turned off for 'murder practice runs'
Sarah Wellgreen murder trial: Footage played to court of moment Ben Lacomba allegedly turned CCTV off
The moment Ben Lacomba is said to have turned his own CCTV cameras off to avoid detection on the night he’s alleged to have murdered ex partner Sarah Wellgreen, has been played out in court.
Police scoured 22,000 hours of CCTV footage - from surrounding streets and properties, and number 22 Bazes Shaw, New Ash Green, itself, where the estranged couple had been living together - as part of the investigation into Sarah’s disappearance on the night of October 9-10 last year.
CCTV allegedly turned off for 'murder practice runs'
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17:42 KEY EVENT
Proceedings end for the day
Court will resume at 10.15am tomorrow when jurors will hear more evidence on vehicle analysis. Do join us then.
Ben Lacomba is charged with the murder of missing New Ash Green mum Sarah Wellgreen
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17:42 KEY EVENT
Proceedings end for the day
Court will resume at 10.15am tomorrow when jurors will hear more evidence on vehicle analysis. Do join us then.
Ben Lacomba is charged with the murder of missing New Ash Green mum Sarah Wellgreen
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Today's proceedings
Good morning, we will be providing periodic updates on today’s proceedings from court. Jurors will hear from Clive Evans, who will be providing further vehicle analysis based on CCTV footage.
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Today's proceedings
Good morning, we will be providing periodic updates on today’s proceedings from court. Jurors will hear from Clive Evans, who will be providing further vehicle analysis based on CCTV footage.
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