GUILTY UK - Tia Sharp, 12, New Addington, London, 3 Aug 2012 #3

[BritsKate]

I'm totally on board, so far, with CS knowing a lot more than she's let on. I fully believe, so far, that SH murdered Tia and sought to conceal that crime but...

I don't think much knowledge can be gained from sleuthing their linen or decorating choices. I have fake silky sheets on my own bed (granted a gold colour not black) but I can assure you I haven't engaged in a bit of prostitution. I've let my own tween have her room as she wants it (black included) but it certainly doesn't allude to my being capable of murdering her...or that she is sexualised or that my home is some kind of denizen for illicit acts.

Not that I think for a moment the SH/CS the home will be found to be 'upright' and bursting with moral aptitude but I don't think their choices as to sheets bear relevance to their morality. JMO

 

[India99]

maybe not her. I can't see any man paying to have sex with her! That wouldn't exclude that the house was being used as a brothel....

not a sane man anyway lol

 

[Skigh]

woah woah woah. I'm sorry but how have we jumped from having black sheets to dabbling in a bit of prostitution?

:maddening:

Sorry to upset you. I have deleted the post .

 

[Luna15]

To be honest, for 42 years I've lived in Beckenham, Shilrey and West Wickham and knew the park well.....I wouldn't have known it was Ashburton though.....I really don't think there's much in the correction that implicates DS.....

small world..... I spent my primary years on Shrublands Avenue, and teenage years in Beckenham..... that's where I've been the last 4 days

 

[MobyBluff]

woah woah woah. I'm sorry but how have we jumped from having black sheets to dabbling in a bit of prostitution?

:maddening:

Whilst the link between black bed sheets (if it was a bed sheet) and prostitution is fairly thin, the idea that this couple could be involved in that sort of thing wouldn't surprise me in the least. And if one bedroom in the house was being used for this purpose I can imagine cleaning up before any Police arrived would have to be fairly thorough

 

[MobyBluff]

small world..... I spent my primary years on Shrublands Avenue, and teenage years in Beckenham..... that's where I've been the last 4 days

And what school did you go to? Do I know you?

 

[rachaellouise]

Sorry to upset you. I have deleted the post .

No no no, haven't upset me at all darling! I just thought that may be breaching the rules of speculation and sleuthing on this board and didn't wanna get you in trouble. :blushing:

 

[Luna15]

And what school did you go to? Do I know you?

Now that would be a small world...... Cator Park (as it was then known)

 

[Lurkio]

I never knew Black Bed Sheets were considered odd or deviant...

I didn't say they were deviant, you did

Odd, no.Unusual.. yes. I think so
certainly not in everyone's linen cupboard. i think it's fair to say most people would not have black bedding sheets? certainly on a single bed.
anyone else feel this?

but more importantly CS will know whether or not it belongs to their house and whether it was on their bed or TS bed the previous night.
is it a single sheet or double/ this will come out in trial no doubt.

If it categorically doesn't belong to their house then that opens another realm of possibility.
If it is a double belonging to them it may open other more sinister lines of enquiry.

imo a lot hinges on that sheet

 

[Skigh]

No no no, haven't upset me at all darling! I just thought that may be breaching the rules of speculation and sleuthing on this board and didn't wanna get you in trouble. :blushing:

Thank you for that.Could you please delete the quote.

 

[Lurkio]

Now that would be a small world...... Cator Park (as it was then known)

just to pipe in, I used to go Orpington College many moons ago :seeya:

 

[MobyBluff]

Now that would be a small world...... Cator Park (as it was then known)

A very small world. Age? I'm 42.....did you also drink in the same places? Probably boring other sleuthers this!

 

[MobyBluff]

just to pipe in, I used to go Orpington College many moons ago :seeya:

I guess we shouldn't be surprised that there are many sleuthers in and around the area of the crime...

 

[India99]

small world..... I spent my primary years on Shrublands Avenue, and teenage years in Beckenham..... that's where I've been the last 4 days

i bought a flat on Shrublands in 1993 lol

and no i didn't drink in The Goat pub

Shrublands over the years i lived there turned into a scumhole too, glad i moved from there too, hated it after a few years.

 

[Lurkio]

I guess we shouldn't be surprised that there are many sleuthers in and around the area of the crime...

I wasn't stupid enough to stay in London though :woohoo:
got out 12 years ago

lived and worked all over south London, from the roughest places, bermondsey, peckham, woolwich etc
to then moving to sidcup then chislehurst

really liked living in chislehurst

btw although never lived beckenham way had a LOT of friends when I was a teenager who lived over that way
and of course going to orpington college meant many that way too

I liked Beckenham but sydenham, anerley, palace etc are absolute dumpholes

 

[India99]

I wasn't stupid enough to stay in London though :woohoo:
got out 12 years ago

lived and worked all over south London, from the roughest places, bermondsey, peckham, woolwich etc
to then moving to sidcup then chislehurst

really liked living in chislehurst

btw although never lived beckenham way had a LOT of friends when I was a teenager who lived over that way
and of course going to orpington college meant many that way too

I liked Beckenham but sydenham, anerley, palace etc are absolute dumpholes

the weird thing is, you can mention all of these nice places and we can also mention all the craphole estates not far away.

i know it may be a bit snobby to say but it would be so much better if they just flattened some of these estates and started again.

obviously these people would have to have somewhere to go but its still not a bad idea.

 

[Skigh]

I didn't say they were deviant, you did

Odd, no.Unusual.. yes. I think so
certainly not in everyone's linen cupboard. i think it's fair to say most people would not have black bedding sheets? certainly on a single bed.
anyone else feel this?

but more importantly CS will know whether or not it belongs to their house and whether it was on their bed or TS bed the previous night.
is it a single sheet or double/ this will come out in trial no doubt.

If it categorically doesn't belong to their house then that opens another realm of possibility.
If it is a double belonging to them it may open other more sinister lines of enquiry.

imo a lot hinges on that sheet

I am making sweeping assumptions again, but I do not have the image of CS and SH having a cupboard full of freshly pressed sheets.
The sheet could be an old one from CS's previous marriage or from when NS and DS lived in the house which had been disguarded in the back of a cupboard and not used for sometime.

 

[Luna15]

just to pipe in, I used to go Orpington College many moons ago :seeya:

:seeya:

A very small world. Age? I'm 42.....did you also drink in the same places? Probably boring other sleuthers this!

I'm 52, used to go to 'The Drum', and boogey on down in 'Tites' by the Junction (not sure what it is now)

i bought a flat on Shrublands in 1993 lol

and no i didn't drink in The Goat pub

Shrublands over the years i lived there turned into a scumhole too, glad i moved from there too, hated it after a few years.

it was my late Mum's first council house, when it was very first built (No 200) my mum hated it, and aspired to much better, luckily my Nan/Step Grandad helped her on the property ladder and we ended up in Kingshall Road, Beckenham... really is a small world eh? or perhaps we are drawn to this case, as it is a 'bit close to home'....

XX

 

[Lurkio]

the weird thing is, you can mention all of these nice places and we can also mention all the craphole estates not far away.

i know it may be a bit snobby to say but it would be so much better if they just flattened some of these estates and started again.

obviously these people would have to have somewhere to go but its still not a bad idea.

that's very true
as you will know yourself, I saw you mentioned chislehurst earlier
I lived overlooking the pond, was very nice, but tbh it isn't a great night out as lots of people come up there for a night and is very small place
so lots of wronguns traipse over hill from mottingham and caused trouble or from eltham

chislehurst is very mixed anyway. some very nice people but lost of 'gangsters' or wannabes who have moved there once got some money

all of london is like this thats the problem. I grew up in greenwich
imo most of south london is a hole but blackheath and greenwich i think have the most history and open spaces in south london and are nice but even then walk in any direction and you hit new cross, woolwich, charlton, etc
horrible

I don't miss London one bit and actually dread ever going back. I only go to see a west end show or something with kids and then we're straight back on one of last trains

 

[Skigh]

the weird thing is, you can mention all of these nice places and we can also mention all the craphole estates not far away.

i know it may be a bit snobby to say but it would be so much better if they just flattened some of these estates and started again.

obviously these people would have to have somewhere to go but its still not a bad idea.

Isn't the people who are the problem.If all the probelm families were moved away and decent families moved in, New Addington estate could become a pleasant place to live.

I wish I could think of a solution, as the problems and ways of living and attitude to life appear to be handed down from generation to generation.