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Well, I am not surprised, really.
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Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains Act passes U.S. House
"The legislation will enhance the ability of local jurisdictions to record and report missing persons and unidentified remains found in South Texas and along the border of the U.S. and Mexico."
"The legislation will enhance the ability of local jurisdictions to record and report missing persons and unidentified remains found in South Texas and along the border of the U.S. and Mexico."
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Yes!! That sounds good. Thanks for sharing. Just wonder...what does it mean concretely....can people from South America that miss a person who was crossing the border with the USA ask to put them into Namus? Is it about more resources for Texas to do more about the huge amount of found remains? They already could enter them in Namus. What I'm asking is....what is going to change compared to the situation now.
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Come on, be positive, things can change, but I have the same doubt, how do you do it so that they are registered in Namus? Is there something special to follow or what?
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I'm very positive. This is (of course) a "money-thing". In principle; the more resources, the more there are people to work away the backlog in administrating the unidentified and missing. But there are many more governmental organizations who feel the workload rising high above the available budgets and are impacted by immigration, resulting in the ill-treatment of immigrants.
Depending on, for example, the budget for autopsy and burial or the Sheriff's department a county has (or has not), they can fix that.
This is a very interesting older study (2001) about the costs and impact on various counties in various states (Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California) bordering with Mexico, "handling" immigrants.
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/201492.pdf
All these counties are impacted by immigration in the sense of workload and costs, i.c. resources.
This is more recent study about the costs and benefits of immigration, focusing on Texas.
https://www.bakerinstitute.org/media/files/files/47a234a5/usmx-pub-undocumentedresidents-050620.pdf
"Local governments face a high financial burden due to the cost of enforcing the law, prosecuting suspects, and operating county jails. Counties must pay sheriffs, clerks, and attorneys every time an undocumented immigrant commits a crime. In this report, we are only estimating the cost for the state of Texas to have undocumented immigrants incarcerated, not the cost for local governments. However, it is important to note that there are other costs for local governments with respect to undocumented immigrants.
To clarify; Illegally entering the USA (named improper entry) is a crime in itself under the US law. (that means that everybody is "processed" as a criminal)
My point is, if the budget's are higher there is potentially a chance they are going to work more systematically, on a state level, on getting DNA and entering (missing) people in Namus.
If you take a look in Namus at the missing Hispanic/Latin American people in Texas, in the border counties, you see that only a few counties enter cases about possible immigrants who went missing. The description, stats etc. are very briefly, but they are in there. Some of them don't even have an LE contact, meaning no-one from LE is working on this case. There is even one that says..."can't file a missing persons report, mother has to come in person to report". There must be some Namus "angels" who put these people in Namus, because LE or a coroner should enter this information, I think.
NamUs 2.0 Database Application
Missing persons records can be entered into NamUs by anyone, including the general public; however, all cases are verified with the appropriate law enforcement agency prior to publication in NamUs.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs).
I'm not sure how this all together works...(how about the no LE contact case I mentioned) maybe there are others who can explain it better.
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And there is this bill from the Texas government.
H.R.7218 - Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains Act of 2018
Text - H.R.7218 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains Act of 2018
Maybe an American/Texan can explain and find out if this ever passed.
H.R.7218 - Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains Act of 2018
Text - H.R.7218 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains Act of 2018
Maybe an American/Texan can explain and find out if this ever passed.
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If you are into this issue....must see is
Immigration Nation | Netflix Official Site
Immigration Nation | Netflix Official Site
American and former Texan here - it looks very interesting and I will try to look at it later this weekend when I'm more alert. Good find!
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Thank you upfront!
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Silly me.....
this is the same act I think Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains Act passes U.S. House Knowing now the content of the act....I'm very happy and positive!
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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
April 2, 2020 “Daniel Diaz Reyes” possible name (photo)
Daniel Diaz Reyes
Possible identity
In early February 2020 a post (in Spanish) on a public Facebook group dedicated to sharing information about missing people from Latin America who was last seen or heard of attempting to cross illegally the border between Mexico and the United States, shared photos that appear to be the same person in the Mexican voting card found with the decedent, along with the name Daniel Diaz Reyes.
Extra information was also provided stating that Daniel Diaz Reyes was missing from Oaxaca, Mexico and that he was last seen between June 10th and June 15th, 2019 around the Mexico-Arizona border in the state of Sonora, Mexico. He had told his relatives that he would try to cross the Mexico-US border.
However all this information, as well as the name of the decedent have not yet been verified by authorities, nor has it been verified that the person in the Mexican ID found with the decedent is the same person than the decedent himself, and 'Daniel' remains listed as an unidentified person. The Facebook post indicates he has been located deceased, however his NamUS remains up.
April 2, 2020 “Daniel Diaz Reyes” possible name (photo)
Daniel Diaz Reyes
Possible identity
In early February 2020 a post (in Spanish) on a public Facebook group dedicated to sharing information about missing people from Latin America who was last seen or heard of attempting to cross illegally the border between Mexico and the United States, shared photos that appear to be the same person in the Mexican voting card found with the decedent, along with the name Daniel Diaz Reyes.
Extra information was also provided stating that Daniel Diaz Reyes was missing from Oaxaca, Mexico and that he was last seen between June 10th and June 15th, 2019 around the Mexico-Arizona border in the state of Sonora, Mexico. He had told his relatives that he would try to cross the Mexico-US border.
However all this information, as well as the name of the decedent have not yet been verified by authorities, nor has it been verified that the person in the Mexican ID found with the decedent is the same person than the decedent himself, and 'Daniel' remains listed as an unidentified person. The Facebook post indicates he has been located deceased, however his NamUS remains up.
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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
January 10,2020 “Anatolio Garcia” from Oaxaca, Mexico (photo)
I'm happy to see others are searching to. Migrantes no Identificados "una luz de esperanza"
https://www.facebook.com/4100746891...-el-desierto-de-tres-puntos/1332948510230269/
January 10,2020 “Anatolio Garcia” from Oaxaca, Mexico (photo)
I'm happy to see others are searching to. Migrantes no Identificados "una luz de esperanza"
https://www.facebook.com/4100746891...-el-desierto-de-tres-puntos/1332948510230269/
I wonder if cases like this one would even be compared to Mexican or Central/South American MPs given the classification in Namus as Asian: NV - NV - Clark Co, AsianMale UP6605, 24-30, in ravine, Emilio or Emiro tattoo, Jul'00 (websleuths.com)
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Good question.
The first so called "border wall" on the Mexican - USA border was actually built to keep out Chinese immigrants who came through South America and Mexico to go to the USA. The first Mexican border wall was actually to keep out Chinese people
Why Chinese Migrants Come to the US Through Mexico
Maybe this UID is actually Asian?
Wow that's fascinating, I had no idea. Yes he could of course be Chinese...one wonders why he would have a Spanish name tattooed on him but then we've all seen lots of unexplainable things here! I wish they'd do a Parabon or other report so we could see his ethnicity mix, I bet it would be interesting.
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That's right, and maybe it could be, it's a possibility
I think the same, let's leave you at fifty fifty. Any other ideas to know?
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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Remains found in wooded area, Male, Multiple,
March 14, 2009, Wimauma, Florida 12-16 years.
University of South Florida Scientists, Top Forensic Artists Aim to Help Solve 20 Cold Cases - University of South Florida
On March 14, 2009, human skeletal remains were discovered in a wooded area near the intersection of Palmetto Road and Surona Road in Hillsborough County, Fla. They were discovered by a citizen who was walking in the area. Based on the condition of the remains, it is thought that the individual may have been dead anywhere between six months to five years prior to the discovery. The skull exhibited three perimortem fractures - two of the perimortem fractures were on the 7th and 8th ribs. The cause of death was determined to be blunt force trauma to the head. The remains are thought to be those of a Hispanic juvenile male between the ages of 12 and 16.
His height was estimated to be between 4’ 9” and 5’ 4”. Clothing found near the remains were described as a pair of “Ice Pole” jeans (size 30 x 29 ½). A black, nylon Chopper brand wallet with a chain, a red lighter, cigarettes and cigarette wrappers and a “La Tarjeta Gorda” telephone card were also located with the deceased.
Chemical isotope analysis indicated that the juvenile was foreign born and additional information suggests that he was possibly from Guatemala or Mexico. A forensic anthropologist investigated the case and found evidence of pronounced skeletal markers associated with heavy manual labor. Markers of this kind are often associated with agricultural labor.
The juvenile has remained unidentified since this discovery. The isotope data for this case is described in Kimmerle and Kamenov (2014). The low strontium levels (87Sr/86Sr=0.7076) combined with elevated lead (Pb) isotopic ratios (206Pb/204Pb=18.701) and Mesoamerican ancestry suggests that the individual was most likely from Mexico or Guatemala. Leaded gasoline in Mexico was produced with local lead (Pb) ores (Soto-Jimenez et al. 2006) and compilation for Mexican ores show 206Pb/204Pb between 18.7 and 18.8 (Sangster et al. 2000). The lead (Pb) isotopes for this juvenile fall within this range.
Additional details can be gained from examining the strontium (Sr) isotopic composition. The juvenile is unlikely to be from western Mexico, which is dominated by volcanic rocks with 87Sr/86Sr expected to be much lower than 0.7076. The Central Valley of Mexico, including Mexico City, is located in the Trans-Mexican Volcanic Belt, also likely to have 87Sr/86Sr lower than 0.7076. To the south, the state of Oaxaca has large indigenous population historically engaged in subsistence farming. At present, indigenous farmworkers from the state of Oaxaca are the fastest growing farmworker population in California (www.cirsinc.org). In a study by Price et al. (2000), they showed strontium (Sr) isotopic compositions between 0.705 and 0.7078 in human teeth and bones from archeological sites in the Oaxaca region. In particular, bones and teeth from Monte Alban site in Oaxaca show very similar Sr isotopic ratios to this unknown juvenile. Therefore, based on the suggested Mesoamerican ancestry and farmworker occupation, and the strontium and lead isotope data we can suggest Oaxaca, Mexico as a possible place of origin for him. Alternatively, the individual could be from Guatemala, the area of the Southern Lowlands that is dominated by Cretaceous sediments.
March 14, 2009, Wimauma, Florida 12-16 years.
University of South Florida Scientists, Top Forensic Artists Aim to Help Solve 20 Cold Cases - University of South Florida
On March 14, 2009, human skeletal remains were discovered in a wooded area near the intersection of Palmetto Road and Surona Road in Hillsborough County, Fla. They were discovered by a citizen who was walking in the area. Based on the condition of the remains, it is thought that the individual may have been dead anywhere between six months to five years prior to the discovery. The skull exhibited three perimortem fractures - two of the perimortem fractures were on the 7th and 8th ribs. The cause of death was determined to be blunt force trauma to the head. The remains are thought to be those of a Hispanic juvenile male between the ages of 12 and 16.
His height was estimated to be between 4’ 9” and 5’ 4”. Clothing found near the remains were described as a pair of “Ice Pole” jeans (size 30 x 29 ½). A black, nylon Chopper brand wallet with a chain, a red lighter, cigarettes and cigarette wrappers and a “La Tarjeta Gorda” telephone card were also located with the deceased.
Chemical isotope analysis indicated that the juvenile was foreign born and additional information suggests that he was possibly from Guatemala or Mexico. A forensic anthropologist investigated the case and found evidence of pronounced skeletal markers associated with heavy manual labor. Markers of this kind are often associated with agricultural labor.
The juvenile has remained unidentified since this discovery. The isotope data for this case is described in Kimmerle and Kamenov (2014). The low strontium levels (87Sr/86Sr=0.7076) combined with elevated lead (Pb) isotopic ratios (206Pb/204Pb=18.701) and Mesoamerican ancestry suggests that the individual was most likely from Mexico or Guatemala. Leaded gasoline in Mexico was produced with local lead (Pb) ores (Soto-Jimenez et al. 2006) and compilation for Mexican ores show 206Pb/204Pb between 18.7 and 18.8 (Sangster et al. 2000). The lead (Pb) isotopes for this juvenile fall within this range.
Additional details can be gained from examining the strontium (Sr) isotopic composition. The juvenile is unlikely to be from western Mexico, which is dominated by volcanic rocks with 87Sr/86Sr expected to be much lower than 0.7076. The Central Valley of Mexico, including Mexico City, is located in the Trans-Mexican Volcanic Belt, also likely to have 87Sr/86Sr lower than 0.7076. To the south, the state of Oaxaca has large indigenous population historically engaged in subsistence farming. At present, indigenous farmworkers from the state of Oaxaca are the fastest growing farmworker population in California (www.cirsinc.org). In a study by Price et al. (2000), they showed strontium (Sr) isotopic compositions between 0.705 and 0.7078 in human teeth and bones from archeological sites in the Oaxaca region. In particular, bones and teeth from Monte Alban site in Oaxaca show very similar Sr isotopic ratios to this unknown juvenile. Therefore, based on the suggested Mesoamerican ancestry and farmworker occupation, and the strontium and lead isotope data we can suggest Oaxaca, Mexico as a possible place of origin for him. Alternatively, the individual could be from Guatemala, the area of the Southern Lowlands that is dominated by Cretaceous sediments.
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In Baja California in 2020, more than 1,700 people were killed in the resulting violence, and hundreds more have disappeared. Many were gunned down and left in the streets, but many others have simply disappeared.
Desperate to find lost loved ones, parents formed collectives to pressure the government to investigate. When met with what they say is official indifference or outright resistance, the collectives purchased shovels and other tools and began conducting their own searches in clandestine mass graves and abandoned properties.
The collectives' existence is a testimony to Mexico's national tragedy and the dysfunction of its justice system. The parents take anonymous tips and run down leads — work they say local detectives are too afraid to do. Sometimes they have to align themselves with criminals to collect information from those who have been involved in the crimes but who are too afraid to speak with authorities.
The San Diego Union-Tribune's Wendy Fry and Alejandro Tamayo spent the past several months with parents and family members, and interviewing state and national officials in Mexico, to produce a series of articles about the parent collectives. The latest result of that work is a video documentary.
In their own words: Families talk about their endless search for Mexico's missing
In their own words: Parents talk about their endless search for Mexico's missing
Desperate to find lost loved ones, parents formed collectives to pressure the government to investigate. When met with what they say is official indifference or outright resistance, the collectives purchased shovels and other tools and began conducting their own searches in clandestine mass graves and abandoned properties.
The collectives' existence is a testimony to Mexico's national tragedy and the dysfunction of its justice system. The parents take anonymous tips and run down leads — work they say local detectives are too afraid to do. Sometimes they have to align themselves with criminals to collect information from those who have been involved in the crimes but who are too afraid to speak with authorities.
The San Diego Union-Tribune's Wendy Fry and Alejandro Tamayo spent the past several months with parents and family members, and interviewing state and national officials in Mexico, to produce a series of articles about the parent collectives. The latest result of that work is a video documentary.
In their own words: Families talk about their endless search for Mexico's missing
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