Upcoming Trial - 2012

[Just the Fax]

If the audit clerk got his times wrong, then his credibility is in question. Maybe he put the rock in the door himself while he stepped out for a cig.

JMO

The same guy that found the rock and the unplugged camera?
Huh?

 

[Madeleine74]

What rock? There was a pebble/rock?

Oh no there couldn't have been. If it didn't have at least a 13 alliel match with a note left next to it by JY, with his signature and thumb print in ink saying "please don't move my rock." then it wasn't really there. Maybe it wasn't even a pebble/rock. MAYBE the CCBI were actually at the wrong H.I.! Yeah, that's the ticket. I think they went to one where JY didn't actually stay!

 

[MyBelle]

Hey MyBelle...:seeya:

I like the way you think !!

It's gonna be a hung or a NG.....

They are never even going to get past the timeline, their own detective said the trip was close to 3 hours each way.!!

Guess who that eliminates.

I doubt the Judge allows a hung jury next time around. Not only does the prosecution have to prove guilt to a jury, they have to prove it to him. His willingness to set a low bail for a man accused of a horrific crime, speaks volumes about his position going in to this next trial.

JMO

 

[tarheel8600]

A corrupt crime lab was a hint of the train wreck to come.

JMO

Exactly what blood evidence was presented at this trial that you think was corrupted by a crime lab?

Or is this just a misrepresentation of facts by you to support your position?

We can't be misrepresenting facts on this board; you told me that last week when I said that LE testified that the security camera was unplugged at 11:20. For the record, I was right about that.

By the way, I still haven't gotten an apology for that yet.

 

[Cheyenne130]

I doubt the Judge allows a hung jury next time around. Not only does the prosecution have to prove guilt to a jury, they have to prove it to him. His willingness to set a low bail for a man accused of a horrific crime, speaks volumes about his position going in to this next trial.

JMO

<modsnip>. I don't think it was a "low bail".

 

[otto]

No, I think the family planted the cig butts.
The "Dr"was hired to collect them....along with 75 bags of other items CCBI missed.

:laughcry:

Like the tooth fragments?

 

[tarheel8600]

What rock? There was a pebble/rock?

Oh no there couldn't have been. If it didn't have at least a 13 alliel match with a note left next to it by JY, with his signature and thumb print in ink saying "please don't move my rock." then it wasn't really there. Maybe it wasn't even a pebble/rock. MAYBE the CCBI were actually at the wrong H.I.! Yeah, that's the ticket. I think they went to one where JY didn't actually stay!

Yes, Madeleine74. Some of the arguments being presented for JY's innocence are rather like listening to a broken record.

 

[otto]

You might need to adjust your hearing aid. I don't think it was a "low bail".

Or ... nothing bad happened between the murder and the arrest; a few years, so there was no reason to expect anything more than him fleeing the jurisdiction. Maybe $900k made sense ... mom could have him home for a while.

 

[tarheel8600]

You might need to adjust your hearing aid. I don't think it was a "low bail".

I crack up everytime I read someone post that $900,000 was a low bond. Seriously, what world are they living in?

 

[Madeleine74]

I think this guy, Tommy Flanagan would be a great addition to the defense of JY.

Whaddya think?

Hulu - Saturday Night Live: Jon Lovitz As Tommy Flanagan

 

[MyBelle]

Or ... nothing bad happened between the murder and the arrest; a few years, so there was no reason to expect anything more than him fleeing the jurisdiction. Maybe $900k made sense ... mom could have him home for a while.

I think the Judge's opinion is reflected in the bail amount. The Judge also has a duty to protect society from violent offenders. Michelle Young and her child died as a result of extreme violence yet the Judge, after listening to all the evidence, set Young's bail at only $900,000. In comparison, Brad Cooper's was $2 million and there was no violent, bloody crime scene in his case.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Like the tooth fragments?

Indeed, the fact that there was tooth fragments not collected is yet another example of a shoddy investigation. What if the tooth fragments belonged to the killer? I wonder if they even tested it for DNA. They also didn't bother to do a rape kit even though it was requested. Such shoddiness isn't fair to the victim.

The prosecution paid for the DNA analysis and presented expert testimony about the cigarettes so they must not share the opinion that it was planted evidence.

JMO

 

[otto]

Yes, Madeleine74. Some of the arguments being presented for JY's innocence are rather like listening to a broken record.

I don't think anyone is necessarily arguing for Jason's innocence. I think it's more along the lines of re-evaluating the evidence given what we know to be true. ... never mind that gut instinct that it was the butler ... or husband or only known facts versus the three little alleles.

 

[crocus]

Will this trial be available livestream?

 

[otto]

Indeed, the fact that there was tooth fragments not collected is yet another example of a shoddy investigation. What if the tooth fragments belonged to the killer? I wonder if they even tested it for DNA. They also didn't bother to do a rape kit even though it was requested. Such shoddiness isn't fair to the victim.

The prosecution paid for the DNA analysis and presented expert testimony about the cigarettes so they must not share the opinion that it was planted evidence.

JMO

For some reason, the medical examiner neglected to complete a rape kit. It was never done ... as far was we know. Maybe he made a judgement call, maybe he forgot. Even though investigators secured the property for 10 days after the murder (in addition to a few other fishing expeditions), they failed to discover tooth fragments mere feet from the body. What were they doing those 10 days if they couldn't even find a tooth on the carpet? And then there's the problem with the bathroom evidence ... and scale ... the deck boards and shoes prints could be interesting, especially if the receipts line up.

 

[otto]

Will this trial be available livestream?

This links to the last trial ... it should be easy to find from there on Feb 6.

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/video/9764909/#/vid9764909

 

[tarheel8600]

I don't think anyone is necessarily arguing for Jason's innocence. I think it's more along the lines of re-evaluating the evidence given what we know to be true. ... never mind that gut instinct that it was the butler ... or husband or only known facts versus the three little alleles.

Otto, that may be the case for you, but there are certainly a couple of other posters who are arguing for JY's innocence. <modsnip>.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't think anyone is necessarily arguing for Jason's innocence. I think it's more along the lines of re-evaluating the evidence given what we know to be true. ... never mind that gut instinct that it was the butler ... or husband or only known facts versus the three little alleles.

I always enter these cases with the presumption of innocence and form my opinion on many factors, including the behavior of the accused. I've seen no evidence Jason Young is capable of the degree of violence the crime scene and Michelle's body reflected. There was no testimony that shows he was provoked before he left on his trip or while he was in route or after he arrived.

JMO

 

[otto]

<modsnip>

Why is that? Evidence was found within feet of the victim. Investigators spent 10 days processing the scene, They missed crucial evidence ... like avulsed teeth under the bed. Did they forget to look under the bed ... perhaps investigators had their suspect in mind and a tooth or two under the bed didn't matter much in the scheme of missing video footage and other missing alleles. Given that police describe this as a prolonged struggle, it's surprising that investigators weren't looking for evidence of a suspect ... even if it's nothing more than a tooth fragment under the bed.

 

[MyBelle]

For some reason, the medical examiner neglected to complete a rape kit. It was never done ... as far was we know. Maybe he made a judgement call, maybe he forgot. Even though investigators secured the property for 10 days after the murder (in addition to a few other fishing expeditions), they failed to discover tooth fragments mere feet from the body. What were they doing those 10 days if they couldn't even find a tooth on the carpet? And then there's the problem with the bathroom evidence ... and scale ... the deck boards and shoes prints could be interesting, especially if the receipts line up.

According to news reports, the rape kit was requested so it wasn't a matter of a judgment call. Failure to do it is inexcuseable. I guess investigators were in the house all that time in an attempt to pin it on the husband they had already concluded was guilty.

They examined Jason Young's body early on so they knew the tooth wasn't his. If they saw signs of sexual activity in that bedroom, it would be difficult to prove it wasn't consensual without a rape kit. I think that's why they requested the rape kit. Too bad for the victim they didn't do a professional, thorough investigation.

JMO