US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

  • #701
As a UK citizen - one of my best friends is a injured service man from AFGHANISTAN I am horrified by his statement

How does he sleep at night?

My thoughts are with all those families from NATO countries who lost their lives / were injured in Afghanistan his statement yesterday was a disgrace.

Just like his Greenland sentiments does this man have any class?
He is an ignorant horror of a human being. MIndless. UK service people ARE amazing, and always have been!!! IMO
 
  • #702
Previous American presidents understood that America is stronger and achieves more internationally when it works with its allies.

And when it exerts soft power ... helping poorer nations with their healthcare/infrastructure/other problems.

imo
 
  • #703
Previous American presidents understood that America is stronger and achieves more internationally when it works with its allies.
pretty straightforward to see this with the history of our policy in iran, for example.

W and trump were unable to get the world to support multilateral sanctions because they were both proud unilateralists who didn't think through the consequences of that attitude. so they only got unilateral sanctions, (ones imposed only by us) which don't have much bite, because people just go around them. it's as effective as trying to keep the cows in with half a fence. and sure enough those unilateral sanctions got no results. obama was able to get everyone to agree to multilateral sanctions, which coerced iran into agreeing to let us monitor them indefinitely.

the fact that trump withdrew from that arrangement, in return for nothing, was another gigantic own-goal. ...as he apparently realized, since he's been desperately trying to get iran to agree to restore obama's deal.
 
  • #704
I said earlier in this thread that I think every thing Trump does comes down to how it will make him money. That’s literally all he cares about. This article pretty much sums up my feelings about the Greenland debacle. Literally market manipulation to line his pockets and increase his wealth (and his billionaire friends) he doesn’t care what countries or allies he pisses off in the process or how he ultimately will hurt the US long term, because he ONLY cares about his own personal wealth gains. He creates a problem, doesn’t care about any consequences and then swoops in to “save the day” TACO is the best acronym that’s ever been created for him. All MOO.

 
  • #705
I'm a non-United States resident. I am a Canadian American (Canada has more land mass than the US within North America).

What policies?

Is it policy for the US Government to falsely state that NATO countries have not assisted the US when Article 5 was invoked by the US?

That statement is false, and an apology is necessary for the sake of the US population. Statements that cause the US population to believe that they are victimized by foreign countries is exactly why a portion of the population believes that the US should attack sovereign NATO countries.

Anyone who supports the invasion of Greenland has to have a reason. Stealing land and wealth doesn't sound good, but retaliation because NATO has allegedly never fulfilled responsibilities to the US is a reason.

Facts matter.
I blame the spread of "no rules" media and loosening of FCC regulations.

I feel like it is very common knowledge that NATO mutual defense was only activated once for the US. But I am not on social media except this, and I curate my news carefully.

Facts matter, but twitter, for instance, does not correct errors in a balanced way. What the US needs is sturdy publishing rules for social media.

MOO
 
  • #706
I hope everyone will read this. https://www.npr.org/2026/01/23/nx-s...terans-describe-shock-of-trump-admin-rhetoric
COPENHAGEN, Denmark — On a recent chilly afternoon in Copenhagen, sitting outside a cafe with blinking heat lamps, Company Sergeant Major Henrik Bager shared a Danish expression.

"You have a cup. When it's filled, you need to empty it so you don't get stressed or angry or to do stupid stuff," he explained.

Earlier this month, his cup was full – after escalating rhetoric from President Trump and others in his administration about how Denmark hasn't done enough to secure Greenland, that they've been a poor ally.

"The first time it felt like a punch to the gut," said Bager, who has deployed five times to serve alongside Americans, including in Afghanistan and Iraq. "You can survive one punch in the gut. When it just keeps on going, then it fills you up with sadness, disappointment, anger."

So he emptied those feelings into a letter that reads like a poem. He sent it via Facebook to former U.S. Ambassador to Denmark Rufus Gifford.

Dear Rufus Gifford,

I’m not writing as a politician.
Not as an analyst.
I’m writing as a Danish Afghanistan and Iraq veteran.

And yes – this brings tears to my eyes.

When the U.S. today calls Denmark a poor ally, it feels like a slap in the face to those of us who were actually there.

After 9/11, Denmark did not hesitate.
We didn’t debate polls.
We didn’t calculate politics.

We put on our gear.
We said goodbye to our families.
We kissed our children goodnight and hoped we’d see them again.

We stood side by side with American soldiers.
We patrolled together.
We covered each other.
We bled together.
And we lost people.

Danish soldiers never came back home because we took the alliance seriously – not as words, but as a promise between soldiers.

So when Denmark is called disloyal, it doesn’t just hit a country.
It hits those of us who wore the uniform.
It hits the fallen.
It hits the families still paying the price.

We don’t expect thanks.
We don’t expect applause.

But we do expect honesty.
And respect for history.

Denmark was there when it mattered.
And we were not half-hearted.

A solider never forgets who stood by his side.
Nations shouldn’t either.

Thanks for your voice, you have the respect from the Danish people.
 
  • #707
<Modsnip: Quoted poste removed because quoted post before was removed>

I’m genuinely curious. Trump has cited Russia and China as the main reason that owning Greenland is strategically important for the US, but he also invited Putin to join his Board of Peace. How do those two positions fit together from your perspective?

Australia lost 42 soldiers - and 261 wounded - during Afghanistan, too. We are not a NATO member.
I apologise @SouthAussie for missing non nato members out in my post - I stand with any country who sent troops X
 
  • #708
And #47 called into a radioshow and proclaimed his building to be the tallest now on 911.
 
  • #709
I hope everyone will read this. https://www.npr.org/2026/01/23/nx-s...terans-describe-shock-of-trump-admin-rhetoric
COPENHAGEN, Denmark — On a recent chilly afternoon in Copenhagen, sitting outside a cafe with blinking heat lamps, Company Sergeant Major Henrik Bager shared a Danish expression.

"You have a cup. When it's filled, you need to empty it so you don't get stressed or angry or to do stupid stuff," he explained.

Earlier this month, his cup was full – after escalating rhetoric from President Trump and others in his administration about how Denmark hasn't done enough to secure Greenland, that they've been a poor ally.

"The first time it felt like a punch to the gut," said Bager, who has deployed five times to serve alongside Americans, including in Afghanistan and Iraq. "You can survive one punch in the gut. When it just keeps on going, then it fills you up with sadness, disappointment, anger."

So he emptied those feelings into a letter that reads like a poem. He sent it via Facebook to former U.S. Ambassador to Denmark Rufus Gifford.
I'm glad I read that.

Thank you.

jmo
 
  • #710
It seems like we've had wave after wave of health scares (hopes and dreams) since his first term. He survived covid, an assassination attempt (allegedly), and scandal after scandal. I won't get too amped up until it's good and done. Then I'll party in the streets. Anywho, back to Greenland, as a casually interested American I just don't understand this sudden fixation. At first it seemed like he brought it up like some sort of placeholder for future distraction, and now he's using it. So that tells me there's something more significant in the works. Epstein?
not a new idea. we just did not notice before:
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6 things to know about Trump's obsession with Greenland​

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Politico
https://www.politico.com › news › 2026/01/23 › 6-thin...




5 hours ago — President Donald Trump's desire to acquire Greenland for national security reasons dates back to his first term.
 
  • #711
Greenland, the Kingdom of Denmark, the EU, and NATO should be wary of every agreement and discussion with the US Government. Repeatedly, we see the US Government cancel invitations, violate agreements (NATO Article 1), and break law (bombed boats in the Pacific Ocean) to subjugate small and middle powers.

Prime Minister Carney gave strong advice to middle powers at Davos. He explained that when middle powers negotiate with major powers one-on-one, they are disadvantaged as they compete against each other for a better trade deal. By uniting, middle powers can push their priorities to the world stage.

When Trump emerged from a meeting with Mark Rutte at Davos, he announced that he struck an infinite deal for Greenland and natural resource wealth. He triggered discussion about whether the US would be granted sovereignty over territory in Greenland even though land ownership does not exist in the country. Rutte did not confirm this.

In my opinion, the US Government says whatever it believes to be necessary to isolate and intimidate small and middle powers for the purpose of exploitation. Mark Carney, an economist with degrees from Harvard and Oxford, can and will hold his ground with the US Government, will stand up for democracy, and will not be intimidated by Trump. The best the US Government can come up with is "you are uninvited to my rule the world party, where the fee is $1 billion dollars."

Canada provided words of wisdom, the US responded with you can't come to my party. It will be far worse for Greenland when the US is not gifted infinite access to Greenland's assets.

"Dear Prime Minister Carney: Please let this Letter serve to represent that the Board of Peace is withdrawing its invitation to you regarding Canada’s joining, what will be, the most prestigious Board of Leaders ever assembled, at any time," Trump wrote in his post.
...

Many rights experts and advocates have previously raised concerns about Trump overseeing a ‍board to supervise a foreign territory's governance.
...

Trump complained that Canada should be "grateful" for the U.S. "I watched your prime minister yesterday. He wasn't so grateful — they should be grateful to the U.S., Canada. Canada lives because of the United States,"

The prime minister argued that the "great powers" — like the U.S. — are using economic integration as "weapons," and argued that negotiating with those countries bilaterally puts middle powers like Canada at disadvantage.

Carney proposed that like-minded middle powers band together to push their priorities on the world stage, even if it's issue by issue.

"Canada and the United States have built a remarkable partnership. In the economy, in security and in rich cultural exchange. But Canada doesn't live because of the United States," Carney said. "Canada thrives because we are Canadian."


Article 1​

The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, to settle any international dispute in which they may be involved by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered, and to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.


~ in my humble opinion ~
Trump will not be President forever. Each day seems like forever, but his policies and objectives are not eternal. IMO.
 
  • #712
Yes, it's likely no coincidence that the 'free' membership is for three years and his term ends in 3 years.


The Trump administration sent out more than 50 invitations to countries around the world. Members are invited to join for free for three years.
At the end of the three-year period, the chairman of the peace board may then decide to renew a country's membership. However, if a country wishes to become a permanent member, they can do so by paying a $1 billion fee within the first year of joining the group.

do fries go with that shake?
can you get a MyPillow or a MAGA hat and sweatshirt too?
(sorry but I am just not taking this Board seriously. didn't the US just start a gold citizenship for a million $?)
In the US, the Rs are very enterprising. Everybody is a sales person.
 
  • #713
fellow american here. the iraq war was not in response to the US being attacked. it was a war of choice against a country that had nothing to do with al qaeda or 9/11. instead, W and his people tried to justify it based on a theory that iraq had restarted their old WMD programs and they posed a threat to the US. france, germany, et al. were not convinced by our evidence, and of course their skepticism was vindicated when all we found was a pile of unusable chemical shells left over from iraq's original program. (not that some people in the US will ever admit that)

for the iraq war, there was no reasonable expectation for our mutual-defense allies to join us, because it wasn't defensive. contrast this with the afghanistan war where we were attacked, we invoked article V, and all our allies showed up just as they promised they would.

OK thank you. Very clear now.
Understood.
 

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