US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

  • #681
I read this ....

In an interview with CNBC on Wednesday, Trump said the possible deal involves U.S. access to mineral rights, as well as collaboration on his proposed “Golden Dome” defense system.


And this .... negotiations will be kept secret. (Probably except what Trump says is happening, on Truth Social. imo)


“We are very well underway in terms of setting up a structure, a time frame, who is in them and when they’re going to meet — that channel is being decided,” the [Danish] official continued.

“The agreement we’ve made with the Americans is that we won’t be commenting on what’s going on in the room,” the official said.

I agree that Trump communicates much on social media, but his statements could be inaccurate. His tweets might be what he wishes occurred. They might be what he wishes we believe. I can't count on Trump to tell me what's happening.

MOO
 
  • #682
I agree that Trump communicates much on social media, but his statements could be inaccurate. His tweets might be what he wishes occurred. They might be what he wishes we believe. I can't count on Trump to tell me what's happening.

MOO
In other words, money, money, money for himself and billionaire cronies.
 
  • #683
Donald Trump has slammed Canada for opposing his Golden Dome defence system, warning China will “eat them up”.

“Canada is against The Golden Dome being built over Greenland, even though The Golden Dome would protect Canada,” the US President wrote on Truth Social.

“Instead, they voted in favor of doing business with China, who will ‘eat them up’ within the first year!

The US President’s Truth Social post comes after he withdrew an invitation for Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney to join his Board of Peace.

Is Canada against the "gold dome" defence system? As far as I understand, Canada has not responded to paying $71B towards the development of the idea. In June, the US Government announced that Canada will pay for the US defence project.

Seven months later, the US Government says that Canada is against paying for the US project. The US Government is also saying that Canada is interfering with the governance of the Kingdom of Denmark and Greenland regarding paying for the US defence project.

Which is it? Has Canada not given an answer, is Canada in favour of paying for the project (allegedly 06/25), or has Canada said no (allegedly 01/26)? Is Canada telling Greenland and Denmark what to do, or is the US Government making false claims about Canada? Does Canada have a history of interfering with the governance of Greenland? Does the Kingdom of Denmark ask Canada for advice?

I think what we are seeing a US Government that is intimidated and angered by Canada refusing to obey, and especially for Canada's Davos comments about middle powers unifying to form a major power. As a result, the US Government is releasing false statements about Canada regarding Greenland. The US Government appears to be lashing out emotionally and thoughtlessly. The US Government appears desperate to undermine Canada.

When the US Government is emotionally upset with Canada, the Prime Minister is labelled "governor". Prime Minister Carney was the Governor of the Bank of Canada, and the Governor of the Bank of England. If Trump does not understand that the former Governor is now a Prime Minister, then he should see a doctor.

"U.S. President Donald Trump says Canada will soon pay to join the Golden Dome project, a tab he projected at $71 billion. ... “They want to be in. $71 billion,” Trump said, using a number higher than the $61 billion he has previously pegged as the price tag of Canada’s participation in the Golden Dome."​

June 2025

Canada is against The Golden Dome being built over Greenland, even though The Golden Dome would protect Canada. Instead, they voted in favor of doing business with China, who will ‘eat them up’ within the first year!” the U.S. president wrote on Truth Social."​


""China will eat Canada alive, completely devour it, including the destruction of their businesses, social fabric, and general way of life," Trump said. ... If Governor Carney thinks he is going to make Canada a 'Drop Off Port' for China to send goods and products into the United States, he is sorely mistaken," the U.S. president wrote in his post."​


~ in my humble opinion ~
 
  • #684
I agree that Trump communicates much on social media, but his statements could be inaccurate. His tweets might be what he wishes occurred. They might be what he wishes we believe. I can't count on Trump to tell me what's happening.

MOO
The US Government seems to trade in fear. The people of Greenland are afraid because the US Government has repeated declared that there is a deal with Mark Rutte for the US to get what it wants in Greenland ... and infinity. The people of Canada are supposed to be afraid because the US Government is threatening 100% tariffs unless Canada obeys the US Government and allows the US Government to dictate economic trade in Canada.

When the US Government turns to threats, intimidation, and issuing false claims about foreign countries, we need to question the cause. Why is the US Government trying to scare and unsettle foreign countries? What's the end game?

Is the goal to rile up the US population so they are afraid, agitated, and living a constant state of victimhood from foreigners? Is the goal to cause confusion and anger between foreign countries? Does the US Government believe everything they say, or is propaganda a useful weapon?

"Mr. Trump said Wednesday night on social media that a “framework of a future deal” had been reached, one that did not resemble full American ownership. Instead, speaking on Air Force One on Thursday, he floated the idea of what sounded like a lease for expanded military bases in Greenland in which “the time limit is infinity” and “we can do anything we want,” including to support the Golden Dome, his ambitious missile defense plan."​


The Whitehouse has released a false image of the US President with a penguin walking towards the Greenland flag. Is the US planning to introduce penguins to Greenland? This is from the Whitehouse - the symbol of democracy in the United States - and the message is threat.

January 23, 2026

~ in my humble opinion ~
 
  • #685
This article asks the question many are asking: Why does the US Government create so much drama? What has gone wrong in the United States for the country to thrive on drama and threatening emotional currency?

"Even by President Trump’s own mercurial standards, his whipsawing over the past few weeks on Greenland — insisting on the largest land acquisition in American history and then dropping it without explanation, threatening allies and then reversing himself — was a remarkable and revealing exercise in a new era of American coercive diplomacy.
...

The president was clearly testing the boundaries of the Atlantic alliance, arguing that handing over the land was a small price for lesser powers to pay for continued American protection ... a formula that leans heavily on bullying and an ability to keep opponents off-balance. ... By the time the president returned to Washington on Thursday night, it was clear that he had left considerable damage to the Western alliance in his wake.
...

By the end of the week, Mr. Trump’s European allies were all asking versions of the same questions: Why did Mr. Trump create so much drama, only to back away? In the end, was the possible reward worth the risks?"


~ in my humble opinion ~
 
  • #686
The US Government seems to trade in fear. The people of Greenland are afraid because the US Government has repeated declared that there is a deal with Mark Rutte for the US to get what it wants in Greenland ... and infinity. The people of Canada are supposed to be afraid because the US Government is threatening 100% tariffs unless Canada obeys the US Government and allows the US Government to dictate economic trade in Canada.

When the US Government turns to threats, intimidation, and issuing false claims about foreign countries, we need to question the cause. Why is the US Government trying to scare and unsettle foreign countries? What's the end game?

Is the goal to rile up the US population so they are afraid, agitated, and living a constant state of victimhood from foreigners? Is the goal to cause confusion and anger between foreign countries? Does the US Government believe everything they say, or is propaganda a useful weapon?

"Mr. Trump said Wednesday night on social media that a “framework of a future deal” had been reached, one that did not resemble full American ownership. Instead, speaking on Air Force One on Thursday, he floated the idea of what sounded like a lease for expanded military bases in Greenland in which “the time limit is infinity” and “we can do anything we want,” including to support the Golden Dome, his ambitious missile defense plan."​


The Whitehouse has released a false image of the US President with a penguin walking towards the Greenland flag. Is the US planning to introduce penguins to Greenland? This is from the Whitehouse - the symbol of democracy in the United States - and the message is threat.

January 23, 2026

~ in my humble opinion ~
this is so weird. does he think there are penguins in Greenland? Next they will just tell us that of course there are and not to ask Qs.
 
  • #687
This article asks the question many are asking: Why does the US Government create so much drama? What has gone wrong in the United States for the country to thrive on drama and threatening emotional currency?

"Even by President Trump’s own mercurial standards, his whipsawing over the past few weeks on Greenland — insisting on the largest land acquisition in American history and then dropping it without explanation, threatening allies and then reversing himself — was a remarkable and revealing exercise in a new era of American coercive diplomacy.
...

The president was clearly testing the boundaries of the Atlantic alliance, arguing that handing over the land was a small price for lesser powers to pay for continued American protection ... a formula that leans heavily on bullying and an ability to keep opponents off-balance. ... By the time the president returned to Washington on Thursday night, it was clear that he had left considerable damage to the Western alliance in his wake.
...

By the end of the week, Mr. Trump’s European allies were all asking versions of the same questions: Why did Mr. Trump create so much drama, only to back away? In the end, was the possible reward worth the risks?"


~ in my humble opinion ~
because he has to be the center of attention. because there always has to be deal-making going on. it has nothing to do with logic or efficiency or even economics. it is ego. IMO
 
  • #688
I agree that Trump communicates much on social media, but his statements could be inaccurate. His tweets might be what he wishes occurred. They might be what he wishes we believe. I can't count on Trump to tell me what's happening.

MOO
"Truth Social" - was there ever a bigger misnomer?
 
  • #689
this is so weird. does he think there are penguins in Greenland? Next they will just tell us that of course there are and not to ask Qs.
He's probably flying some in right now! IMO
 
  • #690
"Oops, sorry, I meant Iceland" he said! :D:D
 
  • #691
this is so weird. does he think there are penguins in Greenland? Next they will just tell us that of course there are and not to ask Qs.
penguin-vs-puffin.webp

Maybe he is getting penguins and puffins mixed up? There are puffins in Greenland.

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Perhaps not a great idea to try to run a remote autonomous territory you know so little about. I guess he's just going to wing it though.
 
  • #692
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Maybe he is getting penguins and puffins mixed up? There are puffins in Greenland.

View attachment 639786View attachment 639787Perhaps not a great idea to try to run a remote autonomous territory you know so little about. I guess he's just going to wing it though.
He's probably flying some in right now! IMO

I think he is bringing in Penguins:

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Puffins too woke.

All imo
 
  • #693
Back in October, Neil Young pledged to remove all of his music from Amazon. And in a recent post on the Neil Young Archives, he said he’s sticking with the plan.

Amazon is owned by Jeff Bezos, a billionaire backer of the president,” he wrote. “The president’s international policies and his support of ICE make it impossible for me to ignore his actions. If you feel as I do, I strongly recommend that you do not use Amazon. There are many ways to avoid Amazon and support individual Americans and American companies that supply the same products. I have done that with my music and people who are looking can find it in a lot of other places.”
...
“It is my sincere wish for you to be able to enjoy all of my music in your beautiful Greenland home, in its highest quality. This is an offer of peace and love. All the music I made during the last 62 years is yours to hear. You can renew for free was long as you’re in Greenland. We do hope other organizations will follow in the spirit of our example.”

 
  • #694
One reason that the US government wants to annex Greenland is for a future installment of the Dome project. The US fears that their US missile defence and deterrence are being rendered obsolete. The US recognizes that if China and Russia attack the US, they will send Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles along the shortest route - which is over the Arctic.

Although the Dome project is behind schedule and bogged down with disputes about technology, components and architecture, the US wants control of Greenland for US security. The Dome project is not a NATO project and not intended to specifically protect NATO countries.

At this time, Canada and Greenland have no reason to invest in the US Dome project because those countries are not threats to China or Russia.

"The strategic importance of the Arctic territory — under the flight paths that nuclear-armed missiles from China and Russia could take on their way to incinerating targets in the United States, and vice versa — is one of the reasons U.S. President Donald Trump has cited in his disruptive campaign to wrest control of Greenland from Denmark, alarming Greenlanders and longtime allies in Europe alike.​
Trump has argued that U.S. ownership of Greenland is vital for his “Golden Dome” — a multibillion dollar missile defence system that he says will be operational before his term ends in 2029."​

Jan 23, 2026

"While Trump himself may have his own motivations, the U.S. defence establishment is genuinely worried about recent developments in Russian nuclear weapons technology, including stealthy hypersonic missiles and nuclear torpedoes that could target U.S. ports.​
Fears that American missile defence and deterrence are being rendered obsolete are the impetus behind Golden Dome.
...​
Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles that nuclear adversaries would fire at each other — if it ever came to that — take the shortest direct route on a ballistic trajectory from their silos or launchers to targets. The shortest flight paths from China or Russia to the United States — and the other way — would take many of them over the Arctic region.​
Russian Topol-M missiles fired from the Tatishchevo silo complex southeast of Moscow would fly high over Greenland ... Chinese Dong Feng-31 missiles could overfly Greenland should they be targeted at the U.S. Eastern Seaboard."​

Jan 2026

"One year after its launch, U.S. President Donald Trump’s Golden Dome missile-defense initiative has made little visible progress, bogged down by technical disputes and concerns over space‑based components that have delayed the release of billions of dollars and stalled one of his most ambitious national security projects.​
The executive order establishing Golden Dome, signed on January 27, 2025, set an aggressive timetable to field a comprehensive homeland missile-defense system by 2028. A year later, however, the program has yet to spend much of the $25 billion appropriated last summer, as officials continue to debate fundamental elements of its space‑based architecture."​

Jan 27, 2026

~ IN MY HUMBLE OPINION ~​
 
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  • #695
One reason that the US government wants to annex Greenland is for a future installment of the Dome project. The US fears that their US missile defence and deterrence are being rendered obsolete. The US recognizes that if China and Russia attack the US, they will send Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles along the shortest route - which is over the Arctic.

Although the Dome project is behind schedule and bogged down with disputes about technology, components and architecture, the US wants control of Greenland for US security. The Dome project is not a NATO project and not intended to specifically protect NATO countries.

At this time, Canada and Greenland have no reason to invest in the US Dome project because those countries are not threats to China or Russia.

"The strategic importance of the Arctic territory — under the flight paths that nuclear-armed missiles from China and Russia could take on their way to incinerating targets in the United States, and vice versa — is one of the reasons U.S. President Donald Trump has cited in his disruptive campaign to wrest control of Greenland from Denmark, alarming Greenlanders and longtime allies in Europe alike.​
Trump has argued that U.S. ownership of Greenland is vital for his “Golden Dome” — a multibillion dollar missile defence system that he says will be operational before his term ends in 2029."​

Jan 23, 2026

"While Trump himself may have his own motivations, the U.S. defence establishment is genuinely worried about recent developments in Russian nuclear weapons technology, including stealthy hypersonic missiles and nuclear torpedoes that could target U.S. ports.​
Fears that American missile defence and deterrence are being rendered obsolete are the impetus behind Golden Dome.
...​
Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles that nuclear adversaries would fire at each other — if it ever came to that — take the shortest direct route on a ballistic trajectory from their silos or launchers to targets. The shortest flight paths from China or Russia to the United States — and the other way — would take many of them over the Arctic region.​
Russian Topol-M missiles fired from the Tatishchevo silo complex southeast of Moscow would fly high over Greenland ... Chinese Dong Feng-31 missiles could overfly Greenland should they be targeted at the U.S. Eastern Seaboard."​

Jan 2026

"One year after its launch, U.S. President Donald Trump’s Golden Dome missile-defense initiative has made little visible progress, bogged down by technical disputes and concerns over space‑based components that have delayed the release of billions of dollars and stalled one of his most ambitious national security projects.​
The executive order establishing Golden Dome, signed on January 27, 2025, set an aggressive timetable to field a comprehensive homeland missile-defense system by 2028. A year later, however, the program has yet to spend much of the $25 billion appropriated last summer, as officials continue to debate fundamental elements of its space‑based architecture."​

Jan 27, 2026

~ IN MY HUMBLE OPINION ~​

#47 makes many Executive Orders with aggressive timetables that are clearly impossible with complex technical or political issues.

It seems a kind of hustle, to me, to avoid careful planning, design, financing, or anything that might delay claiming an achievement. It's the same with tariffs, with US healthcare, with building projects, etc.

In essence, he sets these projects up to failure with unreasonable expectations.
 
  • #696
One reason that the US government wants to annex Greenland is for a future installment of the Dome project. The US fears that their US missile defence and deterrence are being rendered obsolete. The US recognizes that if China and Russia attack the US, they will send Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles along the shortest route - which is over the Arctic.

Although the Dome project is behind schedule and bogged down with disputes about technology, components and architecture, the US wants control of Greenland for US security. The Dome project is not a NATO project and not intended to specifically protect NATO countries.

At this time, Canada and Greenland have no reason to invest in the US Dome project because those countries are not threats to China or Russia.

"The strategic importance of the Arctic territory — under the flight paths that nuclear-armed missiles from China and Russia could take on their way to incinerating targets in the United States, and vice versa — is one of the reasons U.S. President Donald Trump has cited in his disruptive campaign to wrest control of Greenland from Denmark, alarming Greenlanders and longtime allies in Europe alike.​
Trump has argued that U.S. ownership of Greenland is vital for his “Golden Dome” — a multibillion dollar missile defence system that he says will be operational before his term ends in 2029."​

Jan 23, 2026

"While Trump himself may have his own motivations, the U.S. defence establishment is genuinely worried about recent developments in Russian nuclear weapons technology, including stealthy hypersonic missiles and nuclear torpedoes that could target U.S. ports.​
Fears that American missile defence and deterrence are being rendered obsolete are the impetus behind Golden Dome.
...​
Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles that nuclear adversaries would fire at each other — if it ever came to that — take the shortest direct route on a ballistic trajectory from their silos or launchers to targets. The shortest flight paths from China or Russia to the United States — and the other way — would take many of them over the Arctic region.​
Russian Topol-M missiles fired from the Tatishchevo silo complex southeast of Moscow would fly high over Greenland ... Chinese Dong Feng-31 missiles could overfly Greenland should they be targeted at the U.S. Eastern Seaboard."​

Jan 2026

"One year after its launch, U.S. President Donald Trump’s Golden Dome missile-defense initiative has made little visible progress, bogged down by technical disputes and concerns over space‑based components that have delayed the release of billions of dollars and stalled one of his most ambitious national security projects.​
The executive order establishing Golden Dome, signed on January 27, 2025, set an aggressive timetable to field a comprehensive homeland missile-defense system by 2028. A year later, however, the program has yet to spend much of the $25 billion appropriated last summer, as officials continue to debate fundamental elements of its space‑based architecture."​

Jan 27, 2026

~ IN MY HUMBLE OPINION ~​
I wonder, why did the President name it "The Golden Dome" when gold, (granted, while not gallium or mercury) is a very soft and structurally weak metal? Why not The Titanium Dome or better yet, The Chrome Dome, steel and chromium, two of the strongest metals on Earth. Just some thoughts.
 
  • #697
Gold...you know. IMO
 
  • #698
dbm
 
  • #699
Gold...you know. IMO
True, the President does seem to like it quite a lot but truly it's not very strong. It's very malleable in fact. I made jewelry long ago. I know the Iron Dome was taken but gold was a poor choice of representation, if you're going for impenetrable strength, not wealth. JMO
 
  • #700
#47 makes many Executive Orders with aggressive timetables that are clearly impossible with complex technical or political issues.

It seems a kind of hustle, to me, to avoid careful planning, design, financing, or anything that might delay claiming an achievement. It's the same with tariffs, with US healthcare, with building projects, etc.

In essence, he sets these projects up to failure with unreasonable expectations.
The US missile defence and deterrence system is becoming obsolete due to advancements in stealth missile systems from China and Russia. I do not believe that the US is concerned about Canada or Greenland, but only the airspace above those countries. If the US could intercept a missile in Canada or Greenland airspace, I do not believe the US would care how that impacted either country.

Alternatively, is the plan to build the dome on Greenland and Canada Arctic borders, but the US also wants to own that land? That's another problem, since neither Canada nor Greenland will allow the US to buy, or take, pieces of their country.

The US says that Canada needs to pay $71B for the "bogged down" project, even though the project appears to have limited benefit for Canada. The US also says that Greenland must belong to the US, again with limited benefit to Greenland.

Clearly there are serious problems with the project if the US needs money from Canada and land from Greenland (where the US is free to set up a military base as needed). The Dome project should have a plan that does not rely on other countries beyond approval to use airspace or to lease land for a military base.

Personally, I don't think the technology exists to extend the Iron Dome from current range of roughly 180 miles to roughly 2200+ miles (distance Canada-US border to Canada Northern border). A similar distance is needed to reach Greenland. (see google maps: distance tool). The goal is to detect missiles at the time they are launched in Russia and China.

Bottom line, if the US builds their Dome, Canada will automatically be covered regardless of paying for it.

"Canada will need to pay US$71 billion to be included in the Golden Dome defence system, U.S. President Donald Trump revealed Monday."​

June 2025

"While Trump himself may have his own motivations, the U.S. defence establishment is genuinely worried about recent developments in Russian nuclear weapons technology, including stealthy hypersonic missiles and nuclear torpedoes that could target U.S. ports.​
Fears that American missile defence and deterrence are being rendered obsolete are the impetus behind Golden Dome."
...​
Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles that nuclear adversaries would fire at each other take the shortest direct route on a ballistic trajectory from their silos or launchers to targets. The shortest flight paths from China or Russia to the United States — and the other way — would take many of them over the Arctic region."​


January 25, 2026
 
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