US Virgin Is - Sarm Joan Lillian Heslop, 41, British, aboard vessel Siren Song, St. John, 7 Mar 2021

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This article created an image in my mind of a DM (wannabe) journalist hiding in a shrub, jumping out in front of RB and his dog the second RB sets foot on the ground. Is funny and sad at the same time.

The DM gets such a bed rap. I'm sure it has earned that, but in sleuthing cases it does end up giving us quite a lot of info that just nobody else has the tenacity or dogged drive to get
 
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This article created an image in my mind of a DM (wannabe) journalist hiding in a shrub, jumping out in front of RB and his dog the second RB sets foot on the ground. Is funny and sad at the same time.

Yes, I agree it is funny and sad..not named the Daily Fail for nothing. At least they are keeping this highlighted in the media.
 
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The DM gets such a bed rap. I'm sure it has earned that, but in sleuthing cases it does end up giving us quite a lot of info that just nobody else has the tenacity or dogged drive to get
I know they have always the best pictures published with lightning speed. The facts are 50/50 most of the time IMO. Sometimes they are right on with things other times not so much.
 
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I know they have always the best pictures published with lightning speed. The facts are 50/50 most of the time IMO. Sometimes they are right on with things other times not so much.

And the grammar and the spelling. Wuttt? It boggles the mind. :D But the DM consistently has the best photos for these cases, and I do appreciate that we can discuss their info on this forum, because they sometimes cover info that MSM won't touch.

The fact that he was caught "swigging beer" by DM also tells me this man likely has drinking issues. Now, maybe that's why he didn't respond to the anchor alarm, or alert police earlier about Sarm (because he was wasted), but the guts it takes to be photographed drinking on a boat with your feet back, during an investigation, tells me he probably drinks often and to excess. I'm leaning towards this being a rage killing or accident.

Hopefully we get some news today with the FBI taking charge.
 
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My hypothetical scenarios are:

A) She might never have returned onto the boat.

B) If she returned to the boat then something could have happened around 2.30 when someone would have needed to use the boat or dinghy for something, that made them afraid someone else might have heard it, so the movements got reported as an event which triggered the anchor alarm.

It’s difficult to know what the truth is:

- The boat was, wasn’t or was even twice searched by the coast guard.
- The boyfriend alerted the coast guard or not at 2.30
- The boyfriend alerted the coast guard only in the morning or alerted only the police that morning.
- Did they have a happy, loving relationship or was more stress starting to emerge?
- Did one of them had a temper issue? Well, we seem to have some answer to that.
- Did one of them had a substance abuse issue? (alcohol, [il]legal drugs) Or if not a real issue, would just seem if one of them was drinking they personality/temper would change drastically from alcohol or from using another substance?
- Why would an experienced captain all of a sudden throw safety procedures over board?

I mean everything is clear as mud... and we have more questions than answers. I know I do. Hopefully the FBI will be able to clear up this mess.

All IMO and hypothetical as no one was named a POI yet

Great post, I would also add:
Why did she leave before, did they break up for some reason but she forgave whatever happened if something happened? JMO
 
  • #366
I think it bears mentioning, that when they split up, she moved to Malta. Quite a jump on the globe. And I'm sure we all have ideas about why they split.

moo
 
  • #367
Great post, I would also add:
Why did she leave before, did they break up for some reason but she forgave whatever happened if something happened? JMO
Agree. That could be really relevant.
 
  • #368
From speaking to a DM journo, there’s always stuff they’re “trying” to say that they can’t. Definitely always worth reading between the lines with their coverage.

A good example being the beer (as mentioned up-thread).
 
  • #369
Just a few thoughts...

Not letting police search the boat makes me lean towards there is something there. Who would go through all this hassle from the press if they could easily put that issue to bed? I'm not buying that he doesn't trust police - he could have an independent representative present during the search or set up a camera to record it. So I think it's likely they did go back to the boat, UNLESS it's just the dinghy he doesn't want to be searched. Perhaps blood evidence. OR - it's the anchor alarm on the boat that shows no digital record of going off. Her phone was on the boat, suggesting she did get back there.

Not contacting the coast guard when advised to do so by police at around 2:30am, makes me lean towards there was nothing to see there, at that time, in the immediate vicinity of the boat. Absence of evidence is evidence too. So I think it's likely Sarm was taken out to sea and is not on land.

Why would he be comfortable with a land search by police if foul play is involved and he knew she was on land? Without a means to move her body very far on land, she would have been found near the harbour/beach, imo.

Why contact police at 2/2:30am if whatever happened (assuming there was an event) only just happened and there is still time to find her? He doesn't know if police will contact the coast guard, he only found that out after speaking to police.

What's the significance of the anchor alarm? If it had gone off at 2am and that was when you discovered your partner was missing you would be thinking the two were related. Too coincidental for it not to be. Would you a/ phone it in to police and leave the boat to go ashore to meet them, make a record of a missing person, or b/ get in the water, muster help, and search for her, because the anchor's just been moved by something? If this was foul play - I lean towards 2am being the safe time to phone police, because 'the evidence' has been hidden already. There are 4 hours between leaving the restaurant and phoning police - say 1/2 hour on boat, an event precipitating the disappearance, 1 1/2 hours out to sea, 1 1/2 hrs back, 1/2 hour to tidy up in case authorities keep you busy and you don't get another chance and to come up with a reason one is awake at 2am. An alarm. Why not wait until morning to 'discover' an empty bed? Perhaps one thinks the sound of the dinghy (looking for her, but really returning) has been heard by occupants of neighboring boats, and you will have to account for it being seen out just before calling police at 2am.

One more thought about her phone being on the boat - it might have been overlooked during a panic; had it been taken out to sea it might have given a ping to narrow down a search area (do phones ping out at sea?); it might have been considered as too hinky for a person falling off a boat to have had their phone with them?

MOO
 
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Bane’s confidante told DailyMail.com that he had already consented to two searches of Siren Song before he sought legal advice.

‘When they wanted to search a third time he was like, listen, I want you to search for her but she’s not on the boat,’ the friend said. ‘And that got spun into him denying a request to search the boat which wasn’t really the case.
American boyfriend of missing Sarm Heslop is seen on yacht drinking beer | Daily Mail Online

RB consented to two searches? That's the first I've heard about that.
That actually makes more sense- if he hadn't consented to any searches it would be fairly easy for LE to have gotten a warrant. She was on the boat, she is not on the boat right now, obviously there is cause to search the boat. LE doesn't seem to be all that eager to do that right now, perhaps because they have searched twice already.

There seems to be a lot of details about what happened which have not been reported, or were reported with a spin by one party or the other.

She obviously did not leave on her own with no ID and no money. That leaves just 2 possibilities, she had a tragic accident and fell off the boat, or she was murdered and hidden somewhere.

There are certainly a lot of strangeness about the BFs reaction, then again, the reporting on this sucks.

Given the amount of water searching to eliminate possibility #1, it should be easy for LE to get a warrant and search that boat if they wanted to.
 
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"Ryan Bane, 44, repeated the words 'no comment' four times after our reporter intercepted him as he made landfall in Great Cruz Bay, St. Thomas."

Just started following this case yesterday, and finally got caught up. I don't really know what to make of RB or the utter insanity of NOT letting LE search the boat (that was his lawyer's call, if I understand it correctly) but after reading this in the DM, I have to say, I wouldn't talk to them either. They're like vultures refusing to be shoo'd away.

jmo
 
  • #373
Also, how much alcohol can a captain drink, is there any limits officially?
I know everyone who knows the area says lots of drinking involved but as a captain with staff onboard, are there regulations?

VI has laws regarding boating under influence (yes, BUI is a thing! ). Their rules state that if you're operating a boat in VI territory, then CG or other LE will require you to consent to with-cause testing.

Automatic BUI limit is 0.08% blood alcohol concentration; though it can be 0.05-0.08% of they have other evidence that you are under influence - say, recorded observations of drunken behaviour etc.
 
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VI has laws regarding boating under influence (yes, BUI is a thing! ). Their rules state that if you're operating a boat in VI territory, then CG or other LE will require you to consent to with-cause testing.

Automatic BUI limit is 0.08% blood alcohol concentration; though it can be 0.05-0.08% of they have other evidence that you are under influence - say, recorded observations of drunken behaviour etc.
Thanks!
Would you have expected the coast guard to check him at the search?
 
  • #376
"Ryan Bane, 44, repeated the words 'no comment' four times after our reporter intercepted him as he made landfall in Great Cruz Bay, St. Thomas."

Just started following this case yesterday, and finally got caught up. I don't really know what to make of RB or the utter insanity of NOT letting LE search the boat (that was his lawyer's call, if I understand it correctly) but after reading this in the DM, I have to say, I wouldn't talk to them either. They're like vultures refusing to be shoo'd away.

jmo
Exactly! To be fair no one with any sense would speak to the DM, under any circumstances!
 
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Thanks!
Would you have expected the coast guard to check him at the search?

Theoretically, they would have the LE power to request him to submit to one - but technically they would usually only do this if they had reason to believe that he was under influence.

I can't see that they would have had reason to believe this if he was within his full faculties at the time of the search. Bear in mind it took place hours after RB states he first noticed Sharm missing.
 
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It's understood the couple had lined up ten or more bookings for the coming season, worth around $100,000.
American boyfriend of missing Sarm Heslop refuses to discuss his girlfriend's disappearance | Daily Mail Online

If not for any love for Sarm it seems like RB would figure out a way to safely cooperate with LE just to save his livelihood. 100k is a lot to lose, especially if he was not involved in Sarm's disappearance.

IMO at this point he might as well pack up his charter service - who's going to book with him - he didn't follow proper MOB procedures even though he told LE he thought Sarm fell overboard. Who would be comfortable sleeping on his boat? I wouldn't. MOO.
 
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