UT - Charlie Kirk Murdered on Utah College Stage *Arrest* #2

[Tricia]

SUSPECT IN CUSTODY


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Thread #1

 

[Sillybilly]

Please read the above and continue discussion here.

 

[JennieM]

3m ago
Anna Betts

A Utah Valley University spokesperson has confirmed that: “Tyler James Robinson is a third-year student in the electrical apprenticeship program at Dixie Technical College. He briefly attended Utah State University (one semester in 2021) and received concurrent enrollment credit through Utah Tech University while in high school (2019-2021).”

 

[JennieM]

10m ago
The suspect is being held without bail in Utah County Jail on the orders of a state magistrate judge.

According to court records obtained by CNN, magistrate judge Shawn Rice Howell signed an order to hold Tyler Robinson this morning.

 

[JennieM]

24m ago
Court records indicate that the suspect, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, has not been convicted of any crimes in the past.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I just will never understand how people can get so invested in topics that they will kill over it. Why?

Sadly I think the internet has become real life for some of the younger generation. It's addictive and if they're not connecting or doing activities in real life I think the line is blurred for some.

Some of the content out there is pure mantra-driven info and targeting the young, male demographic. If they listen or are on it 8+ hrs a day, I think they believe every word.

I think this guy will have podcasts he listened to as well and not just gaming.

 

[JennieM]

Robinson had become more political in recent years, officials said.

'In the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,' the governor said.

The suspect reportedly talked about disliking Charlie Kirk at a recent dinner with family, where he mentioned the conservative was coming to Utah, authorities said.

Robinson allegedly said at the dinner that 'Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.'

Bullet casings discovered by investigators had several inscriptions engraved on them, Cox said. The casing that had been fired read: 'notices bulges OWO what’s this?'

Cox said there were three unfired casings:

One read, 'hey fascist! catch!' with an up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols.

Another one read: 'oh bella ciao bella ciao bella ciao ciao ciao,' Cox said.

The third fired casing read: 'if you read this you are gay lmao.'

'Killer's' voting habits revealed following Charlie Kirk assassination

Tyler Robinson, 22, was turned into police overnight by his father and a minister in southern Utah after authorities shared images of the shooter.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Charlie Kirk's assassin motive revealed​

Robinson had become more political in recent years, officials said.

'In the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,' the governor said.

The suspect reportedly talked about disliking Charlie Kirk at a recent dinner with family, where he mentioned the conservative was coming to Utah, authorities said.

Robinson allegedly said at the dinner that 'Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.'

Bullet casings discovered by investigators had several inscriptions engraved on them, Cox said. The casing that had been fired read: 'notices bulges OWO what’s this?'

Cox said there were three unfired casings:

One read, 'hey fascist! catch!' with an up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols.

Another one read: 'oh bella ciao bella ciao bella ciao ciao ciao,' Cox said.

The third fired casing read: 'if you read this you are gay lmao.'

'Killer's' voting habits revealed following Charlie Kirk assassination

Tyler Robinson, 22, was turned into police overnight by his father and a minister in southern Utah after authorities shared images of the shooter.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This is a very misleading article, IMO.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I don't feel elated like I thought I would when they made an arrest.

This is bittersweet. There is a huge problem here when these (mostly) young, lost, zoned out online addicted men keep doing these crimes. It'll keep happening if something doesn't change. Another topic, but wish this would stop.

I feel for the killer's parents and family. I feel for the Kirk family as well of course. Sad all the way around

 

[Jw192]

Anyways @BrianJohnson I'm replying to your comment replying to someone else regarding mental health/sociopathy and narcissism.

I fear that he's not proven to be mentally ill or proven to have ASPD or narcissistic disorder.

I fear that we have a senseless young man who has zero diagnosed issue, no true political/radicalised stance, who simply killed a man because he thought it would make him look cool to the internet and be fAmOuS.

That is to me way more terrifying than say a psychopathic killer or a paranoid schizophrenic killer. It's terrifying because there's kids like that everywhere. Young people who follow trends blindly online, think nothing of laughing at dying children on the news. Young people who want to be tiktok famous by any means, who aspire to be world known and are so desensitised to violence and death that they will go out and harm someone just to "troll"

It's terrifying but I fear that's what we have in this case and I dread to think of what's to come.

IMO

 

[Serononin]

The fact that we've reached a point in time where a freaking OwO meme ends up engraved on the casing of a bullet used to murder somebody is breaking my brain a little bit ngl. Like, it reads like some kid's terrible 2010s WattPad fiction, and yet it's the actual news

 

[swanniee11]

24m ago
Court records indicate that the suspect, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, has not been convicted of any crimes in the past.

Can you add links to your posts? Makes reading/catching up easier. TIA

 

[JennieM]

This is a very misleading article, IMO.

I went back to delete the headline.

 

[JennieM]

Can you add links to your posts? Makes reading/catching up easier. TIA

The link is on the time, when you click it.

 

[swanniee11]

Can you add links to your posts? Makes reading/catching up easier. TIA

Nevermind, I see what you did. My bad!

 

[Cryptic]

Another one read: 'oh bella ciao bella ciao bella ciao ciao ciao,' Cox said.

I believe that this is in reference to an Italian folk song "Beautiful Goodbye". If so, the song has been used by various progressive Italian resistance movements (both armed and unarmed) for quite some time.

 

[arielilane]

We have this picture from outside Tyler Robinson's family home in Washington County, Utah and here is his Dodge Charger that he drove to allegedly kill Charlie Kirk still parked outside.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966546547555836066

 

[GatorFL]

One thing about this case that has amazed me since last night. The jump from the side of the building. The building was said to be 15’ tall where he jumped. Given average height around 6’ that’s about a 9’ drop with no injuries. I know he landed in the grass, but carrying a backpack and a rifle, it’s amazing he didn’t do so much as twist an ankle.

 

[NuttMegg]

I've been here donkeys and I can't work out how to comment on a post from the previous thread

Anyways @BrianJohnson I'm replying to your comment replying to someone else regarding mental health/sociopathy and narcissism.

I fear that he's not proven to be mentally ill or proven to have ASPD or narcissistic disorder.

I fear that we have a senseless young man who has zero diagnosed issue, no true political/radicalised stance, who simply killed a man because he thought it would make him look cool to the internet and be fAmOuS.

That is to me way more terrifying than say a psychopathic killer or a paranoid schizophrenic killer. It's terrifying because there's kids like that everywhere. Young people who follow trends blindly online, think nothing of laughing at dying children on the news. Young people who want to be tiktok famous by any means, who aspire to be world known and are so desensitised to violence and death that they will go out and harm someone just to "troll"

It's terrifying but I fear that's what we have in this case and I dread to think of what's to come.

IMO

Politicians have been assassinated, in my lifetime, since JFK. I do believe a political assassination caused ww1. I don't think it's so complicated. Hopefully kids these days are raised with a core of decency. And that refers to would be killers and those who purposefully provoke.

 

[Eli9]

The fact that we've reached a point in time where a freaking OwO meme ends up engraved on the casing of a bullet used to murder somebody is breaking my brain a little bit ngl. Like, it reads like some kid's terrible 2010s WattPad fiction, and yet it's the actual news

Little did he realize what gift he was giving to the prosecution and all the jury members will have to take his memes and LMAO into consideration when determining his sentence. Premeditated. JMO