UT - GOP leader's skinny-dip confession stuns Utah

[Missizzy]

Garn's words, in the Statehouse:

http://www.examiner.com/x-38158-Cul...n-admits-to-25yearold-incident-with-teen-girl

March 12th

"We sat there and that was it," Garn said. "I can unequivocally tell you there was no physical contact, there was no touching, there was no intercourse, there was none of those things. It simply did not occur."

 

[Missizzy]

A weigh in from Ms. Maher's former husband. This is going to get really ugly:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...-is-trying-to-destroy-him-and-Kevin-Garn.html

"Dr. Eric Knight doesn't agree on much with his ex-wife, Cheryl Maher, the woman who disclosed she hot-tubbed in the nude as a 15-year-old with Kevin Garn 25 years ago, leading him to resign as Utah House majority leader.

But one thing that they do agree about is that Knight has some key things in common with Garn, which is why Maher may have gone public with her story.

Knight says his similarity to Garn is that Maher has been trying to destroy him personally and professionally, and that she seeks to blame both men for her bad decisions.

Maher says Knight and Garn are both liars, both abused her and both had affairs with young girls — and she has decided to fight them now. "I married someone who was just like Kevin Garn," she said.

Knight's and Maher's stories differ widely about Maher's history with Garn, which of them actually sought money from him and what kind of abuse occurred...."

more at link...much more

 

[Missizzy]

I really want to know--was she 15 or 13? The lies are spinning. First we hear that it was 25 years ago and he was 30 and she was 15. Then we hear that he was 28. What does that make her? Hmmmmm.

IMO, the woman most likely does have issues. But don't most who are taken advantage of by a person in authority (her boss) and molested at a young age? Are we going to heap blame on a young girl who grew into a troubled woman or place it squarely on a man who made the misstep and then went on to sanctimoniously degrade anyone else who made the same mistake?

Ethics??

 

[cluciano63]

ugh...i feel dirty just reading this...but then almost all politicians of any stripe make me feel a little...tainted...yuk

 

[Texas Mist]

I guarantee you that if I told DBF some 28yo guy was skinny-dipping in a hot tub w/ a 13-15yo girl -- even absent the alcohol & the special "hot-tub place"-- he would absolutely tell me that at the least the guy was fondling her...he would *not* buy a guy got naked in a hot tub to just sit there...mmmmmm-yeah-right.

I'll ask him tomorrow & let ya know what he says.

 

[Missizzy]

I've got my husband right here, I'll ask.


No, you're right. A 28 year old wouldn't just sit there on his hands. It's a slippery slope. You get into the hot tub naked with a pretty young lady and it's all downhill from there.

You know, I just thought of something!! Didn't we learn about this sort of thing in that treatise on masturbation and impure thoughts from the Mormons? If Mom would have been present or they would have been singing, nothing untoward would have happened. I think Mr. Garn broke a few of the rules. I'll have to get my copy. I posted it on the bathroom wall.

Here it is:

I know it says it's all about steps to avoid masturbation but it also covers self-control. It is circa 1984 so Mr. Garn should have been reading up.

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_markepeterson.html

 

[mikeysmommom]

I guarantee you that if I told DBF some 28yo guy was skinny-dipping in a hot tub w/ a 13-15yo girl -- even absent the alcohol & the special "hot-tub place"-- he would absolutely tell me that at the least the guy was fondling her...he would *not* buy a guy got naked in a hot tub to just sit there...mmmmmm-yeah-right.

I'll ask him tomorrow & let ya know what he says.

She was a victim she was a child,he was an adult who knew better. Drinking in a hot tub makes the alcohol hit you harder.She may not remember what else went on but I am not buying he just looked.If he just wanted to sit in a hot tub naked just to look at a naked female he should have done with a girl 18 and above not a child.As far as hubby getting kids a DR can get away with a lot of things,look at the DRS. on these threads.As far as blaming him for her problems he may have caused them and holding abuse in usually does more harm then good to the victim.IMO