UT - Kouri Richins, 33, Author, wife, mom, charged in husband’s unexpected death last year, May 2023 #2

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  • #481
Wow! There is so much to unpack in this letter. And apparently there is another letter as well that was destroyed?

Just so others don't have to wade through all that chickenscratch, here's a quick summary, although the writing is pretty disjointed and hard to put the pieces together.
  • Kouri wants Lisa, her mother, to convince her brother Ronald to lie for her and claim that Eric was sourcing drugs from Mexican ranch hands. This was what was detailed in the prosecution's motion.
  • There's something about gummies with fentanyl that Kouri hopes to use in her defense but her attorney Skye thinks could be turned against her by the prosecution
  • Skye also has a PI investigating some ranch (in Mexico?) that Eric stayed at (with Ronald?)
  • Once Kouri is out of prison, they will get "those d*mn b*tches" (Eric's sisters?)
  • Kouri tells her mom that someone named Lotto should not contact her. (Is that her reputed lover?)
  • Kouri is behind on mortgages for Marissa's house, Chelsea's house (more relatives?) and her mom's house. She saw a commercial for Utah mortgage relief and hopes they can get help from them. There's also mention of place in Kansas (a mortgage lender?). Also, Kouri wants Lotto (the same guy she didn't want to contact her) to take out a home equity loan on his property and lend the money to her so she can get out from under the debt. There was a reference to his "hideout" that confused me until I realized Hideout is a town in Utah.
  • Kouri has some devious scheme of anonymously sending out photos of Eric's sister's daughters to media companies. This would apparently "get at" her sister-in-law. I couldn't make heads or tails of that one.
  • More scheming about an upcoming Good Morning America interview. In addition to Skye, more names are mentioned (Chelsea, Kelsey, Selma, Ali) who are all supposed to say that Eric never went to church and regularly drank and did drugs. Also that Kouri's sisters-in-law were jealous of her and her lifestyle.
  • Something about her mom working on gun receipts? This would be for her defense after the prosecutors refuse to follow up on it.
  • Wants her mom to get her Crest Whitestrips because her teeth are getting yellow. She would have to smuggle them into the jail in a plain white envelope via Skye. Although it doesn't seem likely that any decent attorney would willingly smuggle contraband.
She's a piece of work, all right.
Skye Lazaro is Kouri's attorney. Kouri is preparing brother Ronnie for a meeting with her attorney; she wants him to lie at that meeting.

What is obvious is that Kouri is not just trying to hoodwink the universe, she's also trying to hoodwink her attorney. Is it just me, or do others want to see Lazaro's reaction to this jail find?

I realize Skye likely uses whitestrips herself (look at her rack of pearly whites!), but risking her license to slip whitestrips to Kouri, IMO would not be a likely event. Kouri evidently has no concept of personal boundaries, ethics, or professional protocols.
 
  • #482
Is "Walk the Dog" code? I don't think she's worried about a dog, since she's obviously not worried about anyone/thing but herself.

What's with the guns?

Walk the Dog...but take vague notes so you remember.


Just a guess...But based on that bit about 'vague notes' I think 'walk the dog' was supposed to be code for destroy this letter. Plus, according to the prosecution there was another letter that actually was destroyed.
 
  • #483
Walk the Dog...but take vague notes so you remember.


Just a guess...But based on that bit about 'vague notes' I think 'walk the dog' was supposed to be code for destroy this letter. Plus, according to the prosecution there was another letter that actually was destroyed.
So, my understanding from the prosecution's request: Kouri destroyed or flushed the former letter. She evidently held it up during a video call, so her mom could read it, so the physical letter #1 never made it to the outside.

But, if you're right, Letter #2 was intended to physically reach mom and then get destroyed (minus some vague notes). I wonder how that was going to happen?
 
  • #484
Kouri can't write a clean sentence to save her life. And she definitely can't write anything from someone else's point of view. Write a children's book? No way.

Layers and layers of lies with this woman.
 
  • #485
My initial thought with "walk the dog" is that it means to destroy the letter - possibly by letting a pet literally eat it (ie "the dog ate my homework,") and then taking the dog out to do its business - because who's going to go around the neighborhood digging through doggie doodoo to find an incriminating letter?
 
  • #486
Transcription of letter, unpaginated but with paragraphs spaced. Uncertainties I marked with a question mark(?).

Walk The Dog!!
But take vague notes so you remember*
Skye is saying even if the gummies have fetanyl in them the prosecutor will say i tried to put the fetanyl in the gummies so eric would have them. Stupid I know but thats what shes thinking. We will still test them though. However, she wants to link eric getting drugs & pills from Mexico so we need some kind of connection. Her private investigator is doing research on the ranch/carts(?) place eric would stay at. Here is what im thinking but you have to talk to ronney. He would probably have to testify to this, but its super short not a lot to it. He will need to tell Skye at the meeting next week.

Upon information and belief: (Just like they say) A year prior to Erics death, ronney was over watching football one Sunday and Eric and ronney Were chatting about Erics Mexico trips. Eric told ronney he gets PainPlus & Fetanyl from Mexico from the workers at the ranch. Not to tell me because i would get mad because i always said he just gets high every night and wont help take care of the kids (there are pictures in my phone of eric passed out on the floor or in the chair. Ronney should have texts from eric talking about getting high as well). Eric told ronney he keeps them in an allergy pill bottle in his work truck so wouldnt find them. Ronney never told me about the conversation. Eric finally told me and asked if Carmen could get him some. Eric never wanted anyone to know he had an issue especially get caught, he always wanted Kouri to go down for him. When they traveled, eric would put his drugs in Kouri's bag at the airlines right before they boarded. That way if they were caught, Kouri got in trouble not him. Once they got to wherever they were going, Eric would pull the drugs out of her bag and it would cause a huge fight. She was pissed he would risk her going to jail for his drug use. He just would laugh about it. Eric couldnt ruin his image that he had drug issues so he would do whatever he had to. Kouri has never done any type of pills, didnt like them. Rarely would she consume THC only if Eric begged her bc it was a special occasion.

*Reword this however he needs to, to make the point just include it all.* The connection has to be made with Mexico and drugs. Ronney will have the messages to prove eric confided in him about getting high. It can be short and to the point but it has to be done. Upon information and belief LOL. They never found pain pills or fetanyl in my house because he hid it in allergy bottle in work truck. And Cody emptied out work truck within a week. So they were never found.

When you talk to ronney about this, meet up with him in person. I worry sometimes your house and phone are bugged. Maybe drive down to SL and meet him after work without bri. Skye has to make the connection between eric and Mexico because that makes the most sense in her mind. If its ronneys information and belief about the conversation over football she can use that as a connection. Tell ronney dont overanalyze it. It was a quick 2 min. conversation LOL. Tell him I need him to do this, bring me home and then we will get those damn b*****s!

Also, please text Lotto. Or call. Tell him do not text me anything about us doing things together. Ever! like church, skiing, trips! Nothing that puts us together, it doesnt look good.

Were so close to the end. lets push through. Have the conversation with ronney before he meets with Skye. Hang in there, were almost there. Love you to the Moon. [heart]

*Take Vague notes of all this so you remember before you walk the dog.
I saw a commercial yesterday Utah mortgage relief google them please. Its for people behind on their mortgage. Can you see if they can help at all on Marissas house please? We have to het hers, your, and Chelseas taken care of ASAP? Try to go to that place in Kamas. What about asking lotto to do a loan solely in his name and not have you on there. I know he can do a home equity line of credit on his house in hideout. Not sure if he would but I know he has like a million in equity. Maybe he just doesnt know about a HELOC (home equity). If he wants to help me, taking care of those loans is most important. I don't give a s*** about the yotels(?).

Remember I told you, one way to get at Katie, is going through my phone and finding a picture of her girls even with the boys. Print 15 copies and send them out annonymously to different media companies. Obviously dont email the pictures so its not traceable. She would be Livid if it got out to the public. You would just have to do it sneakly and be careful. She would try and trace it back to you. If not, no worries!

Skye is having the girls do the first interview with Good Morning America. Please tell Chelsea to bring up that he hasnt been to church in the 13 yrs she has known him. And Eric would brag to her about how much he drank and did pills in high school. Tell Kelsey to say "Eric always wanted Kouri to go down for him". For example he would put drugs in her suitcase when we would travel together so if anyone got caught it was Kouri. He would put it in her bag right before they left the house so Kouri didnt know. Then when he would land wherever, Eric would take them out of her bag and Kouri would be pissed and they would argue about it. Tell Kelsey to say how eric didnt care and would just laugh about it and say, "Well I cant get in trouble." as if it was okay that I got in trouble. Have Selma talk about Eric in Spain not being able to drink so he was looking for drugs the entire time. And explain the drink the waitress gave him. And how I called his doctor and went to the pharmacy immediatley. Have ali talk about how the sisters have always been jealous of me because anything they could do, Kouri could do better. Being a mom, College, Stay at home wife until she built a millio dollar company. A nice house, car, everything She had, they wanted. This comes down to jealousy, money, and erics partying that they dont want to acknoledge and sadly an accidental overdose.

Lastly, dont forget to work on the gun receipts. We want to file charges and let the prosecutor not do anything about it, to use in our defense.

Will you buy a box of Crest White Strips, open them up, put in an envelope, and have Skye give them to me. You can tell her whats in the envelope, im sure she wont care. Ill make sure they cant be found in my cell. My teeth are yellow from so much coffee and tea all day. :( I love you, I love you, I love you! Hang in there, were getting there, slowly. Your the best mom in the whole world! Im so lucky to have you!


Edited to remove a duplicate word (it was my mistake)
 
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  • #487
She literally blew up the defense strategy with this letter. I wonder what happens now.
 
  • #488
So, my understanding from the prosecution's request: Kouri destroyed or flushed the former letter. She evidently held it up during a video call, so her mom could read it, so the physical letter #1 never made it to the outside.

But, if you're right, Letter #2 was intended to physically reach mom and then get destroyed (minus some vague notes). I wonder how that was going to happen?
Not that I doubt the prosecutors, but I'm curious about their claim that she held up the letter during a video call. How would that work exactly? A handwritten page would be virtually impossible to read on a Zoom-type call with typical camera resolution and lighting conditions. I doubt jails have pro equipment.

Maybe the first letter was just a few short sentences written in really big letters.
 
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  • #490
Not that I doubt the prosecutors, but I'm curious about their claim that she held up the letter during a video call. How would that work exactly? A handwritten page would be virtually impossible to read on a Zoom-type call with typical camera resolution and lighting conditions. I doubt jails have pro equipment.

Maybe the first letter was just a few short sentences written in really big letters.
But if the other person took screenshots they could read it later.
She if just unbelievable. That letter is sooo detailed.
 
  • #491
She literally blew up the defense strategy with this letter. I wonder what happens now.
What she should do is take a plea. If I was a juror and saw this letter, I wouldn’t believe anything her or her lawyers said.
 
  • #492
What she should do is take a plea. If I was a juror and saw this letter, I wouldn’t believe anything her or her lawyers said.
She seems so controlling that I can’t imagine her taking a plea… totally agree with you.
Her lawyer must be so pissed.
 
  • #493
Gah… I’ve never been so happy about someone being so dumb. There’s no way a jury will ever find her not guilty now. :D
 
  • #494
Not that I doubt the prosecutors, but I'm curious about their claim that she held up the letter during a video call. How would that work exactly? A handwritten page would be virtually impossible to read on a Zoom-type call with typical camera resolution and lighting conditions. I doubt jails have pro equipment.

Maybe the first letter was just a few short sentences written in really big letters.
She held up letter #1 on a jail video call (I doubt Zoom). Inmates do this not rarely, so I guess it works. Text unknown. The video shows her doing that.. It’s possible it was video of a visit, if the visit was non-contact.
Letter #1 has not been found by authorities (they were looking for it when they tossed her cell). The letter we are all looking at is Letter #2.
 
  • #495
Contraband Crest white strips.

Puhlease.
Like Lazaro is gonna risk her professional career and status on smuggling Crest white strips.
 
  • #496
Like Lazaro is gonna risk her professional career and status on smuggling Crest white strips.
Lol. If your wonderful husband was dead and you were falsely accused of his murder pretty sure you wouldn’t be worried about this either.
 
  • #497
Transcription of letter, unpaginated but with paragraphs spaced. Uncertainties I marked with a question mark(?).

Walk The Dog!!
But take vague notes so you remember*
Skye is saying even if the gummies have fetanyl in them the prosecutor will say i tried to put the fetanyl in the gummies so eric would have them. Stupid I know but thats what shes thinking. We will still test them though. However, she wants to link eric getting drugs & pills from Mexico so we need some kind of connection. Her private investigator is doing research on the ranch/carts(?) place eric would stay at. Here is what im thinking but you have to talk to ronney. He would probably have to testify to this, but its super short not a lot to it. He will need to tell Skye at the meeting next week.

Upon information and belief: (Just like they say) A year prior to Erics death, ronney was over watching football one Sunday and Eric and ronney Were chatting about Erics Mexico trips. Eric told ronney he gets PainPlus & Fetanyl from Mexico from the workers at the ranch. Not to tell me because i would get mad because i always said he just gets high every night and wont help take care of the kids (there are pictures in my phone of eric passed out on the floor or in the chair. Ronney should have texts from eric talking about getting high as well). Eric told ronney he keeps them in an allergy pill bottle in his work truck so wouldnt find them. Ronney never told me about the conversation. Eric finally told me and asked if Carmen could get him some. Eric never wanted anyone to know he had an issue especially get caught, he always wanted Kouri to go down for him. When they traveled, eric would put his drugs in Kouri's bag at the airlines right before they boarded. That way if they were caught, Kouri got in trouble not him. Once they got to wherever they were going, Eric would pull the drugs out of her bag and it would cause a huge fight. She was pissed he would risk her going to jail for his drug use. He just would laugh about it. Eric couldnt ruin his image that he had drug issues so he would do whatever he had to. Kouri has never done any type of pills, didnt like them. Rarely would she consume THC only if Eric begged her bc it was a special occasion.

*Reword this however he needs to, to make the point just include it all.* The connection has to be made with Mexico and drugs. Ronney will have the messages to prove eric confided in him about getting high. It can be short and to the point but it has to be done. Upon information and belief LOL. They never found pain pills or fetanyl in my house because he hid it in allergy bottle in work truck. And Cody emptied out work truck within a week. So they were never found.

When you talk to ronney about this, meet up with him in person. I worry sometimes your house and phone are bugged. Maybe drive down to SL and meet him after work without bri. Skye has to make the connection between eric and Mexico because that makes the most sense in her mind. If its ronneys information and belief about the conversation over football she can use that as a connection. Tell ronney dont overanalyze it. It was a quick 2 min. conversation LOL. Tell him I need him to do this, bring me home and then we will get those damn b*****s!

Also, please text Lotto. Or call. Tell him do not text me anything about us doing things together. Ever! like church, skiing, trips! Nothing that puts us together, it doesnt look good.

Were so close to the end. lets push through. Have the conversation with ronney before he meets with Skye. Hang in there, were almost there. Love you to the Moon. [heart]

*Take Vague notes of all this so you remember before you walk the dog.
I saw a commercial yesterday Utah mortgage relief google them please. Its for people behind on their mortgage. Can you see if they can help at all on Marissas house please? We have to het hers, your, and Chelseas taken care of ASAP? Try to go to that place in Kamas. What about asking lotto to do a loan solely in his name and not have you on there. I know he can do a home equity line of credit on his house in hideout. Not sure if he would but I know he has like a million in equity. Maybe he just doesnt know about a HELOC (home equity). If he wants to help me, taking care of those loans is most important. I don't give a s*** about the yotels(?).

Remember I told you, one way to get at Katie, is going through my phone and finding a picture of her girls even with the boys. Print 15 copies and send them out annonymously to different media companies. Obviously dont email the pictures so its not traceable. She would be Livid if it got out to the public. You would just have to do it sneakly and be careful. She would try and trace it back to you. If not, no worries!

Skye is having the girls do the first interview with Good Morning America. Please tell Chelsea to bring up that he hasnt been to church in the 13 yrs she has known him. And Eric would brag to her about how much he drank and did pills in high school. Tell Kelsey to say "Eric always wanted Kouri to go down for him". For example he would put drugs in her suitcase when we would travel together so if anyone got caught it was Kouri. He would put it in her bag right before they left the house so Kouri didnt know. Then when he would land wherever, Eric would take them out of her bag and Kouri would be pissed and they would argue about it. Tell Kelsey to say how eric didnt care and would just laugh about it and say, "Well I cant get in trouble." as if it was okay that I got in trouble. Have Selma talk about Eric in Spain not being able to drink so he was looking for drugs the entire time. And explain the drink the waitress gave him. And how I called his doctor and went to the pharmacy immediatley. Have ali talk about how the sisters have always been jealous of me because anything they could do, Kouri could do better. Being a mom, College, Stay at home wife until she built a millio dollar company. A nice house, car, everything She had, they wanted. This comes down to jealousy, money, and erics partying that they dont want to acknoledge and sadly an accidental overdose.

Lastly, dont forget to work on the gun receipts. We want to file charges and let the prosecutor not do anything about it, to use in our defense.

Will you buy a box of Crest White Strips, open them up, put in an envelope, and have Skye give them to me. You can tell her whats in the envelope, im sure she wont care. Ill make sure they cant be found in my cell. My teeth are yellow from so much coffee and tea all day. :( I love you, I love you, I love you! Hang in there, were getting there, slowly. Your the best mom in the whole world! Im so lucky to have you!


Edited to remove a duplicate word (it was my mistake)
Airports have sniffer dogs, xrays, nosy TSA staff, and if you’re flying to a foreign country, just NO. Alternatively, what do you want to bet Kouri put a poisonous substance in the allergy pill bottle, and she always carried it? She likely poisoned him when they traveled?
 
  • #498
I did have a thought that Lazaro is a liberal user of white strips, so Kouri would imagine her being a kindred spirit in her white strips quest.

Kouri is clearly adjusting to jail and getting the hang of beating the system. However, she’s missing the small details, like the ones that would blow your case and send you to prison for life. I bet she doesn’t even realize she could end up in the SHU (however they spell it).

Kouri is really bad about small details, in general.
 
  • #499
My initial thought with "walk the dog" is that it means to destroy the letter - possibly by letting a pet literally eat it (ie "the dog ate my homework,") and then taking the dog out to do its business - because who's going to go around the neighborhood digging through doggie doodoo to find an incriminating letter?
I think she could mean 'wag the dog'' as in diverting attention from the elephant in the room to the mouse in the corner, or orchestrating/ spinning the narrative.
 
  • #500
I think she could mean 'wag the dog'' as in diverting attention from the elephant in the room to the mouse in the corner, or orchestrating/ spinning the narrative.

That analogy is entirely too subtle and smart for this evil dingbat.

I think she thought she was being clever with her little code that no one would ever figure out. #eyerolleyerolleyeroll
 
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