Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #15 *ARREST*

[margarita25]

Great sleuthing @margarita25 ! That looks like the same logo as on the box to me. Seems they did find an AR-15. MOO.

(Good eye back atcha, G.)

 

[purple_orchid_3]

This has probably been mentioned but I’m still catching up but I’m 98% sure that’s a Toyota Camry.


ETA - now I’m caught up and see it’s been talked about.

On another note — is this the other guys car? The one he was arrested with (who was let go?) maybe some kind of rental or something?

Not that this has anything to do with anything, but Wednesday night, after they raided the house, I did not sleep hardly at all, maybe 2 hours. But I had a dream that the car she was picked up in at the park was a Toyota Camry. It was strange. So when his car turned out to be a Kia, I thought nothing of it. But now...again, so weird.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Not that this has anything to do with anything, but Wednesday night, after they raided the house, I did not sleep hardly at all, maybe 2 hours. But I had a dream that the car she was picked up in at the park was a Toyota Camry. It was strange. So when his car turned out to be a Kia, I thought nothing of it. But now...again, so weird.

Maybe he swapped cars, trading Kia for Toyota? To avoid detection. More premeditation, JMO.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I can’t remember if on this thread or another case I’m sleuthing, someone woke up dreaming victim deep in water.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Her ads are still up, I'm fairly surprised at this point. RIP Kenzie.

Which ads? Can you post links or is it against TOS?

 

[Whiteorchids]

I think it's pretty simple. Suspect in this case was an alcoholic and had a short fuse. He wasnt a serial killer. I don't think the murder was premeditated.

In typical fashion his fuse went off during a fight or something.

Or refusing his demands

 

[SuziQ]

As far as I know, the only "precaution" we know of is the possible turning off of ML's cell phone once she got in the car... and we don't know anything about the circumstances of that... at all. We just know that it happened.

Everything else could easily be attributed to a haphazard attempt at covering up the crime.

He avoided cameras by not picking KL up at the airport. By setting up the meeting in the park, he avoided a trail leading straight to his house via her phone and Lyft. That sounds very premeditated to me. MOO.

 

[Seattle1]

Maybe he swapped cars, trading Kia for Toyota? To avoid detection. More premeditation, JMO.

Don’t think He swapped cars because the KIA was confiscated on Weds under the search warrant.

The photo in question was taken Fri in the parking lot of Apt where he was arrested. Linked a few pages back.

 

[SuziQ]

Ive missed so much...have we discussed AA specifically asking the housekeeper to bring her 12 year old daughter with her when she cleaned?

This is the first I have heard of this. Wowza!

 

[Whiteorchids]

I would be very surprised if he was doing anything ritualistic in connection to his native culture. He seems very assimilated--that was the first thing I noticed about his social media profile, how Westernized he wants to be. He goes by an American nickname, he joins the Mormon church, he seems to be into Western pop culture, he doesn't advertise that he is from Africa or his country of origin.

It really stood out in contrast to the attorney his mother used as a spokesperson, who presumably is still more in touch with back home. I noticed she referred to him as a Yoruban American, far more specific than Nigerian. He just doesn't seem to care if people know he is Yoruban or Nigerian. It only really comes up in relation to his immigration status.

I have a feeling he will try to claim self defense the arrogant narcissist that he is. She is not here to defend herself. I’ve seen other monsters pull this. I hope the ME can confirm cause of death. I suppose if she is burned to the bone ME would still be able to tell.

 

[SuziQ]

Don’t think He swapped cars because the KIA was confiscated on Weds under the search warrant.

The photo in question was taken Fri in the parking lot of Apt where he was arrested. Linked a few pages back.

I do remember seeing a local report, that at the apartments, the other persons car was being searched. I never heard another thing about it.

 

[Peppery]

This is the first I have heard of this. Wowza!

It’s in this video from the media thread.

Mackenzie “Kenzie” Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June, 2019 Media, Maps, Timeline, *NO DISCUSSION*

 

[1987]

Not a lot that I recall other than how creepy and scary that is.

I have followed from the start but had to miss some pages to catch up. I did not know he had ask her to bring her child with her. I would like to know if it was a bring your child or a if you don't have a sitter feel welcome to bring your child with you. either way oh my.

edit-now that I see link above it was specific to bring your child. creepy. like this all wasn't creepy enough.

edit again-maybe it was a bring your child if you need to....I don't know creepy either way

 

[Peppery]

Not a lot that I recall other than how creepy and scary that is.

Extremely. I hope to God there aren’t more victims and especially not children. This man is pure evil.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Don’t think He swapped cars because the KIA was confiscated on Weds under the search warrant.

The photo in question was taken Fri in the parking lot of Apt where he was arrested. Linked a few pages back.

No, I’m suggesting just for the night she flew in and using it promptly, disposing of her body in the canyon. Next day, maybe two, but before his Kia is impounded under the search warrant, swaps it back.

 

[PixieStix]

I have followed from the start but had to miss some pages to catch up. I did not know he had ask her to bring her child with her. I would like to know if it was a bring your child or a if you don't have a sitter feel welcome to bring your child with you. either way oh my.

He did not ask her to bring her child, she stated she would have to come later than planned because she had her daughter and he told her she was welcome to bring her.

 

[1987]

It’s in this video from the media thread.

Mackenzie “Kenzie” Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June, 2019 Media, Maps, Timeline, *NO DISCUSSION*

thank you

 

[margarita25]

Ive missed so much...have we discussed AA specifically asking the housekeeper to bring her 12 year old daughter with her when she cleaned?

This is the first I have heard of this. Wowza!

It’s in this video from the media thread.

Mackenzie “Kenzie” Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June, 2019 Media, Maps, Timeline, *NO DISCUSSION*

Wow, I missed this video, thanks for posting.

This is a huge clue as to his other potential interests; he may like children too.

As for his potential online activities, perhaps he has an interest in facilitating voyeurism, live streams, for creepos who would want to watch something like a mother and 12 year old daughter clean

Maybe my mind is going to bad places again.

I find the lady to be quite credible. She trusted her ”Bundy Vibe” she got from him.

(I didn’t realize Bundy lived 3 miles away from AA’s house.)

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So, was he into 12 year olds? Is he a pedophile, hebephile as well?

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ETA:

Here’s the video from the Media Thread, courtesy of our one and only @PommyMommy:

JUL 1, 2019

Inside House Where Mackenzie Lueck Was Allegedly Murdered

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[Boxer]

Utah law has aggravated murder for putting anyone in a situation that might cause death.

And it looks like even a sudden rage type killing becomes aggravated murder if there is any mutilation before or after the victims death.


https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter5/76-5-S202.html

(1) Criminal homicide constitutes aggravated murder if the actor intentionally or knowingly causes the death of another under any of the following circumstances:

(c) the actor knowingly created a great risk of death to a person other than the victim and the actor;

...

(r) the homicide was committed in an especially heinous, atrocious, cruel, or exceptionally depraved manner, any of which must be demonstrated by physical torture, serious physical abuse, or serious bodily injury of the victim before death;
(s) the actor dismembers, mutilates, or disfigures the victim's body, whether before or after death, in a manner demonstrating the actor's depravity of mind;
...

 

[ilovechili]

Extremely. I hope to God there aren’t more victims and especially not children. This man is pure evil.

ITA. I think most likely we have only scratched the surface of having a clue of what he is, what he would do and how far he would go...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It just doesn't make sense to me he would put her body in the bonfire then retrieve it at some point, and discard the body in the canyon later...Lol...that is precisely what I thought he did...we would make a great team--our hypothesis of what happened and why he did it...not to mention what type of predator he is...would give many angles of interpretation and possible truths...

Thank you tru.

I left for awhile, and was watching ID for a couple of hours.

One had a psychiatrist who was discussing how sexual sadists are a far different breed than many other type of other murderers.

The thrill is to inflict as much extreme torture on their victims. The more the victim is tortured the bigger thrill they feel.

He said it is the great pain, and suffering he inflicts on his victims is what sexually excites him even more than the murder itself.

Although horrifying to hear it was enlightening for I certainly believe AA is also a sexual sadist.

One who has an abnormal rage, and hatred for all women in general.

Jmho