Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #17 *ARREST*

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  • #441
Welcome to Weblsleuths, Patch Tuesday. :) Glad to have you with us.

Thanks. Off and on lurker for years , closer follower starting with Jayme Closs's case. This case has me frustrated on many levels as that one did, so much victim blaming and false info about AJ being a "veteran".
 
  • #442
A good read. Thank you. I hope ksltv keeps up their investigation, there's definitely more that's publicly available (as some of you know).
Interesting. It sounds like he just recently tried to meet women through the church registry. I wonder if he wasn't having so much luck with the other dating apps, so he thought he would try another angle.
It is kind of strange since he told the construction guy he had a Mormon girlfriend.
At least now we have more verification that he presented himself as something completely different than what he was.
I can see why Kenzie might have been easily fooled. He must come across as a successful, intelligent guy who is a little shy when it comes to women and dating. I can see why someone might be attracted to him. Without knowing him, of course. Imo
 
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  • #443
I buy zip ties by the 500 bag. they are a must have for me like Ziploc bags and duct tape. I keep my potting soil closed tight with zip ties and just get a new one when I cut the old one off.

OT Mentioned too many times to count but- if I’m missing hope family & friends will immediately clear up misinformation from what’s discovered in my closet, literally and figuratively.
I too buy zip ties by the hundreds but my online searches, Podcasts, and discussion forums will raise few red flags. Guess, worse if my husband goes missing instead of myself, my defense will rely on people I’ve never met and only know by online user names.
 
  • #444
Wow, great article. Thank you! Some parts I found notable:

[...]

KSL Investigator Brittany Glas spoke to the women who have reported “concerning interactions” with Ajayi in recent years. Those women who interacted with Ajayi online say he painted a very different picture than what they experienced in their interactions with him.

While most of the women were not comfortable interviewing on-camera, the women told KSL they communicated with Ajayi on various social platforms, including Tinder, Snapchat, and Mutual, among others. At some point, the women all say Ajayi crossed a line.

[...]

North Park Police Investigate Ajayi for Rape Complaint

In November 2014, a reported rape victim – an adult woman – made a complaint against Ajayi with the North Park Police Department, saying she did not want to pursue charges against him, but that she wanted the assault on file “in case he did the same thing to someone else.”

[...]

In July 2012, Utah State University Police arrested Ajayi for possession of stolen property – a class B misdemeanor. However, there is no longer any record of the case, which may explain why the charge didn’t show up in the criminal history search.

Cache County officials we spoke with say the best explanation is the case was expunged, meaning – it’s as if it never happened.

In the USU PD report, police said Ajayi was using a stolen iPad that was “full of his information and apps.” Police reviewed the iPad and learned he was using it to find a “female as a prospect to marry to keep from being deported.” That is – even though court records show he was already married to a woman named Tenisha Jenkins Ajayi – and had been, since June 2011. Public records show the two were married in Dallas, Texas.

[...]

Days before Lueck’s murder, Ajayi asked out a woman he didn’t know via text after retrieving information through “Tools” app

In the most recent instance KSL Investigators have discovered prior to his arrest, Ajayi texted a woman he didn’t know to ask her out.

SV is friends with that woman. Vranes says Ajayi obtained her friend’s cell phone number through a church directory app.

[...]

Ajayi was on the roster of the same Salt Lake-area mid-singles ward of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as both women. Ajayi was legally married when he joined.

[...]

“I was shaking when I found out, when I saw that. I knew he had asked my friend out, but I realized that it was on June 5th that that happened. It shook me and a lot of my girlfriends in the ward,” SV explained. “He said, ‘Hey, like, I haven’t talked to you at church. I’m just really shy. But maybe we can get to know each other and I can take you out.’ She was like, ‘No, thanks.’”

[...]

Fact-Checking the Suspect’s Online Resume and/or Online Inconsistencies

Scanning his LinkedIn profile online, KSL has been able to confirm with Dell that Ajayi was an employee at the company’s Draper, Utah, office. However, as of July 2019, company representatives say he is no longer employed there. Dell would not release his dates of employment.

Ajayi was also a contract employee at Goldman Sachs in Salt Lake, where he worked in IT. He worked at Goldman for the contracted company from September 2017 through August 2018.

We also now know that although Ajayi claims to have attended London South Bank University, student services and registry teams for the college confirm Ajayi was not a student there.

[...[

ETA specific quotes from above

1) "women who interacted with Ajayi online say he painted a very different picture than what they experienced....At some point, the women all say Ajayi crossed a line."

It seems like the suspect could pull-off playing a role through a screen or in public, but once a woman got too close, she realized something was off. He became less shy and more predatory.


2) 'he was using it to find a “female as a prospect to marry to keep from being deported.” That is – even though court records show he was already married'

Was he, at that point, really interested in finding another woman to marry in order to stay in the U.S.? If so, why?

3) "Cache County officials we spoke with say the best explanation is the case was expunged, meaning – it’s as if it never happened."

How did his records get expunged? I don't know they criteria for getting records expunged, so I could be way off, but, again, maybe he has connections in this country?
 
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  • #445
What is the significance of the buckles and charred black fabric I wonder. Maybe from her clothing..belt? Buckles is just an odd term as opposed to fasteners or buttons.

" In an alleyway adjacent to Ajayi's home, investigators found charred black fabric, buckles and other items of value that belonged to Lueck."
Buckles from her handbag, luggage, contents. MOO
 
  • #446
Wow, great article. Thank you! Some parts I found notable:

[...]

KSL Investigator Brittany Glas spoke to the women who have reported “concerning interactions” with Ajayi in recent years. Those women who interacted with Ajayi online say he painted a very different picture than what they experienced in their interactions with him.

While most of the women were not comfortable interviewing on-camera, the women told KSL they communicated with Ajayi on various social platforms, including Tinder, Snapchat, and Mutual, among others. At some point, the women all say Ajayi crossed a line.

Whoa, PommyMommy. Great synopsis, each paragraph is chilling.

This is what I had pictured (him grooming as many pools of women that he could - it's such a common thread among pedophiles/serial rapists). So scary.

(For a fascinating podcast on these types of perps, Small Town Dicks has one called "Friend Request"). I bet all of those women would be terrified to be associated with this case until it's beyond doubt that he's behind bars for the rest of his life.
 
  • #447
If there's a silver lining in this tragedy (and I'm not sure there are any), I hope it takes the shine and glamor away from the Sugar Baby subculture that has been popularized by mainstream media. It's not safe, and it's not ethical. It leaves scars, most of them invisible.
 
  • #448
I bolded and italicized the statements that I think are very telling.

1) It seems like the suspect could pull-off playing a role through a screen or in public, but once a woman got too close, she realized something was off. He became less shy and more predatory.

2) Was he, at that point, really interested in finding another woman to marry in order to stay in the U.S.? If so, why?

3) How did his records get expunged? I don't know they criteria for getting records expunged, so I could be way off, but, again, maybe he has connections in this country?
2) His reason to find another woman to marry to keep from being deported makes no sense to me since he was already married. Who knows, lol?

3) I'm pretty sure records can be expunged if no charges are filed.

MOO
 
  • #449
I've been staying away from the race conversations here, but just wanted to point out what is likely obvious to some but not all: AA was from Africa.

Technically, he's "African-American" I suppose, since he is a citizen, but he is not culturally the same as "African-Americans" who have been here for generations and generations and generations (and longer). He is not from the same cultural group just because he had dark skin.

I don't think most Americans are going to automatically identify with him based on his skin color and I don't think that should be the assumption.

jmo

As far as I know, he’s not a citizen, just a green-card holder.
 
  • #450
Thank you all for your support and messages these last few weeks. I have some catching up to do on here...

EDIT: Has been addressed in further comments. Thank you!
Not sure if this has been posted/discussed (redirection would be appreciated) but interested to hear opinions or thoughts in regards to probability for this.
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“There is no way AJ can get a fair trial in Utah considering the racial disparity over there,” said Fashakin. Charges have not been filed yet, but once they are, Fashakin is going to work to get the trial moved out of state."

Family of suspect in MacKenzie Lueck case worried about possibility of fair trial in SLC

Something to keep in mind, it’s fairly standard in a high profile case that defense will make an argument of not getting fair trial specifically unable to find jury that’s not biased or unaffected by media coverage.
 
  • #451
I'm not into any wild stuff and I have zip ties of every size and length. I also have a lot of different types of rope. I don't see how a homeowner wouldn't have this.

I have reusable cord ties, but amazed at the cited use of the presumed locking ties, as well as the quantities! o_O
 
  • #452
Wow, great article. Thank you! Some parts I found notable:

[...]

KSL Investigator Brittany Glas spoke to the women who have reported “concerning interactions” with Ajayi in recent years. Those women who interacted with Ajayi online say he painted a very different picture than what they experienced in their interactions with him.

While most of the women were not comfortable interviewing on-camera, the women told KSL they communicated with Ajayi on various social platforms, including Tinder, Snapchat, and Mutual, among others. At some point, the women all say Ajayi crossed a line.

[...]

North Park Police Investigate Ajayi for Rape Complaint

In November 2014, a reported rape victim – an adult woman – made a complaint against Ajayi with the North Park Police Department, saying she did not want to pursue charges against him, but that she wanted the assault on file “in case he did the same thing to someone else.”

[...]

In July 2012, Utah State University Police arrested Ajayi for possession of stolen property – a class B misdemeanor. However, there is no longer any record of the case, which may explain why the charge didn’t show up in the criminal history search.

Cache County officials we spoke with say the best explanation is the case was expunged, meaning – it’s as if it never happened.

In the USU PD report, police said Ajayi was using a stolen iPad that was “full of his information and apps.” Police reviewed the iPad and learned he was using it to find a “female as a prospect to marry to keep from being deported.” That is – even though court records show he was already married to a woman named Tenisha Jenkins Ajayi – and had been, since June 2011. Public records show the two were married in Dallas, Texas.

[...]

Days before Lueck’s murder, Ajayi asked out a woman he didn’t know via text after retrieving information through “Tools” app

In the most recent instance KSL Investigators have discovered prior to his arrest, Ajayi texted a woman he didn’t know to ask her out.

SV is friends with that woman. Vranes says Ajayi obtained her friend’s cell phone number through a church directory app.

[...]

Ajayi was on the roster of the same Salt Lake-area mid-singles ward of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as both women. Ajayi was legally married when he joined.

[...]

“I was shaking when I found out, when I saw that. I knew he had asked my friend out, but I realized that it was on June 5th that that happened. It shook me and a lot of my girlfriends in the ward,” SV explained. “He said, ‘Hey, like, I haven’t talked to you at church. I’m just really shy. But maybe we can get to know each other and I can take you out.’ She was like, ‘No, thanks.’”

[...]

Fact-Checking the Suspect’s Online Resume and/or Online Inconsistencies

Scanning his LinkedIn profile online, KSL has been able to confirm with Dell that Ajayi was an employee at the company’s Draper, Utah, office. However, as of July 2019, company representatives say he is no longer employed there. Dell would not release his dates of employment.

Ajayi was also a contract employee at Goldman Sachs in Salt Lake, where he worked in IT. He worked at Goldman for the contracted company from September 2017 through August 2018.

We also now know that although Ajayi claims to have attended London South Bank University, student services and registry teams for the college confirm Ajayi was not a student there.

[...[

Thanks for the summary, the article is very good!

This guy was a super-predator. He was using so many elaborate tricks to draw women in, so many stories and lies. He put a huge amount of effort into refining his stalking, fake persona, and tactics. He really seemed to know how to manipulate social media, apps, etc. to his advantage and was constantly casting a wide net to lure women in.

Its frightening how many local women almost became victims. It's easy to get a serial killer vibe from his activities. If he's not, he was well on his way to becoming an SK.
 
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  • #453
I'm about 700 posts behind, so this has probably already been discussed, but wouldn't the zip ties and rope melt/burn if he tied her hands behind her back before he burned her? IMO he had to have done that after she was already dead and burned.
 
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  • #455
Thanks for the summary, the article is very good!

This guy was a super-predator. He was using so many elaborate tricks to draw women in, so many stories and lies. He put a huge amount of effort into his refining his stalking, fake persona, and tactics. He really seemed to know how to manipulate social media, apps, etc. to his advantage and was constantly casting a wide net to lure women in.

Its frightening how many local women almost became victims. It's easy to get a serial killer vibe from his activities. If he's not, he was well on his way to becoming an SK.

Or who did become victims but never reported.
 
  • #456
I bolded and italicized the statements that I think are very telling.

1) It seems like the suspect could pull-off playing a role through a screen or in public, but once a woman got too close, she realized something was off. He became less shy and more predatory.

2) Was he, at that point, really interested in finding another woman to marry in order to stay in the U.S.? If so, why?

3) How did his records get expunged? I don't know they criteria for getting records expunged, so I could be way off, but, again, maybe he has connections in this country?

I don't think they were formally expunged. I think that USU failed to prosecute him after they used their processes to ban him from campus and that after a period of time, the campus police destroyed the records, as they usually do after a couple of years. It would be good to pass a law that problem student records be maintained (perhaps by an administrator and not the police, if that's viewed as too draconian) for at least 10 years.

As it is right now, a student can be *very* problematic (guns on campus, death threats) and only a tiny number of people will know about it. If there are changes in administration (deans, vice presidents), the trail is lost completely.

But police routinely throw out records from cases they don't intend to prosecute further. They close 'em and then they toss 'em.
 
  • #457
Thank you all for your support and messages these last few weeks. I have some catching up to do on here...

EDIT: Has been addressed in further comments. Thank you!
Not sure if this has been posted/discussed (redirection would be appreciated) but interested to hear opinions or thoughts in regards to probability for this.
"
“There is no way AJ can get a fair trial in Utah considering the racial disparity over there,” said Fashakin. Charges have not been filed yet, but once they are, Fashakin is going to work to get the trial moved out of state."

Family of suspect in MacKenzie Lueck case worried about possibility of fair trial in SLC

BBM:

Probability: Nil.

Ain't gonna' happen.

JMO.
 
  • #458
I'm about 700 posts behind, so this has probably already been discussed, but wouldn't the zip ties and rope melt/burn if he tied her hands behind her back before he burned her? IMO he had to have done that after she was already dead and burned.
Maybe they were melted or charred, but still identifiable as zip ties and rope.

jmo
 
  • #459
I'm about 700 posts behind, so this has probably already been discussed, but wouldn't the zip ties and rope melt/burn if he tied her hands behind her back before he burned her? IMO he had to have done that after she was already dead and burned.
I think she was probably laying on her hands with the rope and zip ties toward the ground. There's really no reason for her to be bound post-mortem but it makes perfect sense with regard to kidnapping, possible sexual assault, and murder. MOO
 
  • #460
Interesting article. The way this guy interacted with women is very telling. He often “crossed a line” and didn’t take no for an answer.
Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if that is exactly what happened. He was tired of being told "no," and when Kenzie said no he snapped and took out all his anger on her. Imo
 
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