GUILTY UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019

[MassGuy]

Speaking of the news, is the recent article from the Salt Lake Tribune posted here?
The one that mentions how she threw a Birthday party for her cat?

It’s always good to bring it forward.

I just re-read it myself. It was updated a couple hours ago.

 

[kkdj]

Yes. This is kind of where I was heading.

It could be that her parents just took the text as she had landed and that was that. Like you, my dad expects the double contact on landing and arriving home. But it’s certainly not a knock on her parents if that wasn’t their style.

She may have sent them a text that conveyed in some way the trip was over and she was home despite her intention to head to the mystery destination in NSL.

Or.. they may have been aware of her intention to go somewhere other than directly home. This could explain why they didn’t immediately freak out and why LE seems so secretive.

It is all strange.

Jmo.

She might have texted them upon her landing and they were asleep, not seeing it until the morning.

 

[sweetcandyapple]

I know of at least one in Utah that does serve booze.

The completely naked one does not serve booze, it is illegal here for completely nude clubs to serve booze. The Southern Exposure one is just topless, that one does serve booze.

 

[MsBetsy]

It’s always good to bring it forward.

I just re-read it myself. It was updated a couple hours ago.

I'm not sure how to with my phone but I wanted to ask where her parents live.
Is it her college that is twenty minutes away from where she was dropped off?

 

[MassGuy]

You definitely get the impression that her friends have legitimate concerns here, and they do raise some strong points in regards to her not being the type to just walk away.

Close friends of MacKenzie Lueck, the University of Utah student who hasn’t been seen in nearly a week, are convinced she is in danger. She is not the kind of person who would let her cat starve, miss a wedding, blow off work or skip midterm exams.

“For her to not reach out to me is very unlike her. She is usually in touch with me every day,” Stoner said Sunday afternoon at a news conference in front of Salt Lake City police headquarters. “We don’t believe she would miss a midterm because she was stressed. I am positive something is wrong. ... I don’t believe she would go off and not contact one person.”

Where is MacKenzie Lueck? Here’s what we know about the disappearance of the 23-year-old University of Utah student.

 

[Jethro4WS]

There's one hotel that is technically in North Salt Lake, it's Best Western Plus Cottontree Inn, I believe that is considered North Salt Lake, but that's right on the edge of another city called Woods Cross where there are a lot more hotels and businesses. I'm thinking it almost has to be residential.

Yes, I think it has to be residential. The only other place that would be open at that time would be the Pilot Travel Center.

 

[Jcscham]

I don't think she would go to a very dangerous area just to meet some love interest. JMO.

North Salt Lake is a far less dangerous area than where she actually lives. It's got a lot of new upscale homes and condos. It's most likely the only reason she would go there is to go to someone's home. There are so many places for her to get drugs from between the airport and where she is reported to be living that wouldn't be so far out of her way. North Salt Lake is primarily a residential area with very few businesses that would have been open at that hour of night. The person that reported it was a bad area here also said they hadn't been there in 30 years.

 

[sweetcandyapple]

Yes, I think it has to be residential. The only other place that would be open at that time would be the Pilot Travel Center.

Or the Maverik just up the street to the north of that Pilot, only places I can think of.

 

[Jethro4WS]

I'm not sure how to with my phone but I wanted to ask where her parents live.
Is it her college that is twenty minutes away from where she was dropped off?

Her parents live in El Segundo, CA.

Her college is about 20 minutes from the northern end of the city of North Salt Lake. However, we do not have any idea where in North Salt Lake she was dropped off.

 

[kkdj]

" she then took a Lyft to an address in North Salt Lake, where she was last seen in the early hours of Monday morning."

She was seen at that destination address? By whom, or surveillance video?

Search continues for missing 23-year-old U of U student Mackenzie Lueck

Well, I would say obviously the lyft driver would have seen her where he dropped her off.
I think LE knows exactly where she went and why. They just don't know what happened after that.

 

[MsBetsy]

You definitely get the impression that her friends have legitimate concerns here, and they do raise some valid points in regards to her not being the type to just walk away.

Close friends of MacKenzie Lueck, the University of Utah student who hasn’t been seen in nearly a week, are convinced she is in danger. She is not the kind of person who would let her cat starve, miss a wedding, blow off work or skip midterm exams.

Where is MacKenzie Lueck? Here’s what we know about the disappearance of the 23-year-old University of Utah student.

Yes, they seem very concerned. They have been passing out fliers and doing interviews to get the word out.
They insist she would never just take off without getting in touch with someone.

 

[Ginger2381]

She might have texted them upon her landing and they were asleep, not seeing it until the morning.

I know every parent/child communication style is different but personally, it doesn’t make sense to me that *if* they knew she was taking a Lyft/Uber home, they would not ask her to text them when she arrived home safely and therefore, be alarmed if she did not. There have been enough stories in the news to make people hyper-cautious AND it was 1am in the morning, not the safest time for anyone to be traveling alone. To me, this makes me think that they had an understanding that she had other arrangements home (like a roommate). There is no way if my parents thought I was taking a rideshare home at 1am and I never texted to say I made it home, that they wouldn’t be worried waaay before 3-4 days later (I’m 38 and they’d still expect a text!)

Also, personally every time I take a Lyft I share my route with my husband- it’s super easy in their app to do that, you just click a button and send your gps to anyone you want. As a woman hearing all the stories we have lately about Uber, this is a no brainer to do. Unless you didn’t want someone to know where you were headed...

 

[Gundo]

I'm not sure how to with my phone but I wanted to ask where her parents live.
Is it her college that is twenty minutes away from where she was dropped off?

Her parents live in El Segundo

 

[kkdj]

Ha!

Here’s my issue with the foul play scenario, based on following a lot of these cases:

The family’s words and actions don’t fit.

Law enforcement’s posture and language doesn’t fit.

The presence of stressors around the time of her disappearance (grandmother’s death, exam).

The fact that she did something unusual for her (hell, unusual for most people), she went to a strange address in the early hours of the morning, after arriving on a flight.

Could she have met with foul play? Absolutely.

But I’m nowhere near that yet.

We don't know if this was unusual for her or if it was a strange address for her to go to. It might be that she had been there several times.
jmo

 

[kkdj]

Was she flying alone?

 

[GordianKnot]

You definitely get the impression that her friends have legitimate concerns here, and they do raise some strong points in regards to her not being the type to just walk away.

Close friends of MacKenzie Lueck, the University of Utah student who hasn’t been seen in nearly a week, are convinced she is in danger. She is not the kind of person who would let her cat starve, miss a wedding, blow off work or skip midterm exams.

“For her to not reach out to me is very unlike her. She is usually in touch with me every day,” Stoner said Sunday afternoon at a news conference in front of Salt Lake City police headquarters. “We don’t believe she would miss a midterm because she was stressed. I am positive something is wrong. ... I don’t believe she would go off and not contact one person.”

Where is MacKenzie Lueck? Here’s what we know about the disappearance of the 23-year-old University of Utah student.

And if any one of her friends could offer a single insight into why ML would have gone to North Salt Lake, who she would have gone to North Salt Lake to see, or what she might have gone to North Salt Lake to do after 1 am in the morning after having just flown home, then I would be putting a lot more weight behind their words re: her not reaching out being "very unlike her."

The fact that none of ML's friends have any clue why she went there tells me that they may not know ML as well as they think they do, at least with regard to certain aspects of her life.

This doesn't move the needle for me at all.

What will move the needle for me is a change in LE's language and/or posture.

I still think she's voluntarily missing.

JMO.

 

[MsBetsy]

Her parents live in El Segundo, CA.

Her college is about 20 minutes from the northern end of the city of North Salt Lake. However, we do not have any idea where in North Salt Lake she was dropped off.

Oh, ok, thanks. So I guess she was returning from a trip home?
I wonder if her parents and LE did not seem very alarmed at first because they thought maybe she was doing something with friends and since she is an adult they thought they would give her more time.
Maybe they had not had a chance to communicate with all her closest friends or even the friends thought she could be with another friend they couldn't reach.
And now that she has missed the wedding and her other flight, they are really concerned.
I would think by now she would be fully aware of how worried everyone is and contacted someone. Imo

 

[kkdj]

She works at a medical lab in SLC.

Do you know where?

 

[MassGuy]

And if any one of her friends could offer a single insight into why she would have gone to North Salt Lake, who she would have gone to North Salt Lake to see, or what she might have gone to North Salt Lake to do after 1 am in the morning after having just flown home, then I would be a lot more weight behind their words re: her going off being "unlike her."

The fact that none of her friends has any clue why she went there tells me that they may not know ML as well as they think they do, at least with regard to certain aspects of her life.

This doesn't move the needle for me at all.

What will move the needle for me is a change in LE's language and/or posture.

I still think she's voluntarily missing.

JMO.

I do too.

If they had an explanation for that behavior, then I’d give their statements a hell of a lot more weight.

It appears that this was a strange thing for her to have done, and it may be part of an overall pattern here.

Something bad still could have happened, but I don’t think it’s as likely as this being something else entirely.

 

[MsBetsy]

We don't know if this was unusual for her or if it was a strange address for her to go to. It might be that she had been there several times.
jmo

I wonder if she is having a relationship with someone her friends don't know about.