Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019

[Momofthreecousin]

( I hear ya! Not cutting your thought down by any means! Its all open brainstorming and discussion here. I’m just adding the technical considerations to this, while considering this scenario. )

Don’t feel cut down. Yes. Those technical considerations are good to think about. Thank you.

 

[GordianKnot]

This is highly speculative on my part, but hypothetically speaking:

If ML's parents are practicing LDS and she is not, would she be likely to tell her parents if she was seeing someone who was not of the LDS faith?

My understanding of the LDS church is limited, but it seems like having romantic relationships with people outside of the LDS faith is very much frowned upon.

So, if ML were seeing someone who wasn't LDS, would she tell her parents, or would she try to keep that relationship under wraps?

JMO.

 

[SuziQ]

Do we need a map? I always need a map to figure out what happened. Is there a map?

Can someone tell me the city for the funeral, the city where she lives, where the lyft/uber driver left her, if there's a boyfriend and where he might be? Did I miss anything?

the only thing I know is she went to the U of U and lived near there. That would be in the northeast SL Valley.

 

[PommyMommy]

Do we need a map? I always need a map to figure out what happened. Is there a map?

Can someone tell me the city for the funeral, the city where she lives, where the lyft/uber driver left her, if there's a boyfriend and where he might be? Did I miss anything?

There is no map. The funeral service was Sat, June 15 in El Segundo, CA. She arrived SLC Airport at 1:00 a.m. Mon, June 17. LYFT confirmed that her ride from the airport "ended at the destination entered by the rider" but we don't know the destination. MOO

 

[otto]

This is highly speculative on my part, but hypothetically speaking:

If ML's parents are practicing LDS and she is not, would she be likely to tell her parents if she was seeing someone who was not of the LDS faith?

My understanding of the LDS church is limited, but it seems like having romantic relationships with people outside of the LDS faith is very much frowned upon.

So, if ML were seeing someone who wasn't LDS, would she tell her parents, or would she try to keep that relationship under wraps?

JMO.

If she ran away, why would she run away now? Nursing careers don't really allow for practitioners to run away from life. Why not complete responsibilities and then deal with the LDS thing, if it was a thing?

 

[SuziQ]

This is highly speculative on my part, but hypothetically speaking:

If ML's parents are practicing LDS and she is not, would she be likely to tell her parents if she was seeing someone who was not of the LDS faith?

My understanding of the LDS church is limited, but it seems like having romantic relationships with people outside of the LDS faith is very much frowned upon.

So, if ML were seeing someone who wasn't LDS, would she tell her parents, or would she try to keep that relationship under wraps?

JMO.

It depends on the family. Some care who their kids date some don't. It's not as big a deal as it used to be. There probably would be pressure to convert if the relationship got serious.

 

[margarita25]

Do we need a map? I always need a map to figure out what happened. Is there a map?

Can someone tell me the city for the funeral, the city where she lives, where the lyft/uber driver left her, if there's a boyfriend and where he might be? Did I miss anything?

Of course we need a map. We always need a map. Especially by the best mapper on WS! Am I dreaming that you asked this question? How I wish I could hear this question from you in every thread I follow!

I’m sure it’s been answered by now but we do not know yet what her destination was. Iirc she went to the funeral in Los Angeles. She lives in Salt Lake City, arrived at the SLC airport at 1am and then took a Lyft to which destination she supposedly arrived per Lyft records. No other information has been released as to her address or romantic status.

ETA: What pommy said.

 

[otto]

the only thing I know is she went to the U of U and lived near there. That would be in the northeast SL Valley.

Where was she flying from?

 

[Steelslady]

The destination is obviously key. I really hope and pray that she is alive and well. How strange that she would go to her grandmother's funeral, come back home and then just disappear like this? Leaving her cat alone for all that time?

I hope she didn't share a ride with anyone. When she reached her destination, did something happen to her after she got out of the Lyft car- before she went into what ever home or the destination was?

 

[otto]

Airport to University of Utah, Salt Lake City.

 

[GordianKnot]

If she ran away, why would she run away now? Nursing careers don't really allow for practitioners to run away from life. Why not complete responsibilities and then deal with the LDS thing, if it was a thing?

I'm not necessarily thinking along the lines of her running off to start a new life somewhere....

Where I was going w/ that thought is that she may be seeing some"Mystery Dude" that may or may not be a good guy.

Having said that, I do think there's a remote possibility that she did take off impulsively with someone, though.

As the philosopher Blaise Pascal said: "The heart has its reasons of which reason knows nothing."

Something like that, anyway.

JMO.

 

[margarita25]

I’m wondering about Probable Cause factors as related to executing a SW on her residence. Is her simply being missing enough for a detailed examination of her residence (luminol, etc, full shebang) or would there have to be some other additional factor for a judge to sign off on?

(ETA: We have seen judges sign off on a weekend)

 

[otto]

There is no map. The funeral service was Sat, June 15 in El Segundo, CA. She arrived SLC Airport at 1:00 a.m. Mon, June 17. LYFT confirmed that her ride from the airport "ended at the destination entered by the rider" but we don't know the destination. MOO

It's unlikely that she was followed by someone at the funeral in El Segundo, CA., so something happened after she landed. It sounds like she scheduled a lyft, but no public information about whether she used a lyft.

 

[otto]

Follow the phone. Even if she got into the wrong lyft vehicle, she wouldn't have lost control of her phone until after she left the airport. Where was she then ...

Where is the last ping?
What time?

 

[otto]

No one turns off the phone riding in a car service or a taxi. Her phone must have tracked away from the airport regardless of whether she got into a lyft car service.

Sometimes after 1AM, she went off line. Family reported her missing 3 days later. Imagine being the person who took her, knowing that it was 3 days before her disappearance was noticed - assuming someone took her.

 

[BLT HUEY GIRL]

I grew up with this girl in California and I now live in Utah! What a tragic story this is. I’m hoping for the best, but it does seem grim

 

[GordianKnot]

Friends and family search for missing U. student

SABBM:
“Whether she’s endangered or not that’s a tough thing to say right now. We are just treating it as we’d like to find her and we are just trying to track down any leads right now,” said Salt Lake City Police Department detective Michael Ruff. “We want to try and contact her one way or the other if she’s missing or she isn’t we need to make sure she’s okay.”

Interesting language by LE here.

I'm now leaning voluntarily missing.

JMO.

 

[SuziQ]

Where was she flying from?

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I don't know

 

[BLT HUEY GIRL]

I live in Utah also. And this story concerns me. I can only hope that this girl is found and that all is well with her. One question . .. Does she have other family in this area?

 

[SuziQ]

I’m wondering about probable cause factors as related to executing a SW on her residence. Is her simply being missing enough for a detailed examination of her residence (luminol, etc, full shebang) or would there have to be some other additional factor for a judge to sign off on?

I'm thinking the biggest hang up on warrants, are the fact you would have to convince a judge a crime has occurred.