Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019

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  • #461
LE says she was last seeing at her destination after arriving there by Lyft. Seeing by who? By other person/people or these are just driver's words?
If nobody other than a Lyft driver cannot confirm it I would seriously doubt his/her story...Maybe she was abducted right away at airport and the story about her going to strange address is only
a fib...
 
  • #462
I'm trying to wrap my brain around why she would go somewhere other than home. After all, it was past midnight. And I always want to go straight home after being out of town. Perhaps she didn't want to wake up her roommates. Other possibilities (some less likely than others): went to buy some weed, went to spend the night with a guy she had been dating, went to meet someone she met on her flight, went for coffee/food.

Has anyone mentioned whether she owned a car? I would think that most 22-year-olds would own a car. Is it possible that her car was borrowed or stored somewhere and she was going to pick it up?
 
  • #463
I'm trying to wrap my brain around why she would go somewhere other than home. After all, it was past midnight. And I always want to go straight home after being out of town. Perhaps she didn't want to wake up her roommates. Other possibilities (some less likely than others): went to buy some weed, went to spend the night with a guy she had been dating, went to meet someone she met on her flight, went for coffee/food.

Has anyone mentioned whether she owned a car? I would think that most 22-year-olds would own a car. Is it possible that her car was borrowed or stored somewhere and she was going to pick it up?
Her car is at her home.

Utah college student MacKenzie Lueck missing after ride-share from airport
Family members said Lueck's car had not been moved and her phone appeared to be off.

Where is Mackenzie Lueck? Here’s what we know about the disappearance of the 23-year-old University of Utah student.
Her car is still at her home and her luggage hasn’t been found.
 
  • #464
I haven’t had roommates in many years but when I did I would always at least text a roommate that I was coming home late if I were expecting to be home after eleven pm. Mainly so they wouldn’t freak out and think someone was breaking in. Did she let the roommate(s) know that she was going to be arrive early in the morning? Or did she not disclose when she was coming home? This could also explain the delay in reporting her missing if she never told the roommates when she’d be home at all.
 
  • #465
BBM

~snip
Not going home to your pets or your roommates, or just dropping your luggage off, that’s very abnormal,” Fine said. “Not going to work. Having your phone off for five days now, very very bizarre and alarming.”

Police said Lueck took a Lyft ride from the airport, but that there were no irregularities in the driver’s route — he went to the destination entered in by the rider.

As far as reaching out to Lueck through social media, Fine said she’s reached out while the media shows she’s active.

“It might show that she is active on social media, but that is not Mackenzie,” Fine said.

Instead, it’s friends and family going through Lueck’s account, she said.

~snip


More at link:
Search continues for U of U student Mackenzie Lueck

Well that answers who is accessing her social media accounts. And it is most likely not her.
 
  • #466
BBM:

Great question...one I'm hoping a reporter will pose to LE.

Presumably LE knows who last saw ML since they've been to the drop-off location she gave to the Lyft driver.

LE hasn't disclosed the address, and they haven't named the individual(s), if any, who saw her at that address.

LE hasn't even disclosed whether the address she gave to Lyft was a business, a private residential address, a public location like a park, etc.

Ironically, what LE isn't telling is extremely telling.

JMO.

I can't express enough how quiet and tight lipped LE is here. And it is usually because they know what happened and they are building a case. IMO, the key to this case is where this lady was dropped off. And people are usually dropped of right where they are going. She was also hauling luggage of some sort. So she wouldn't have walked far.

LE will remain quiet, then bam! They make an arrest.
 
  • #467
I wonder if LE has spoken to the flight crew. Could they surmise a state of mind? Was she chatting with fellow passengers? Did she seem like she might be under the influence of anything? Did she order alcohol during the flight?
I’m sure the Lyft driver was asked similar questions. He was also likely asked about what conversations they had and if she was on her cellphone. If so he might have overheard parts of a conversation that would be helpful to LE.
Early on there was a lot of discussion as to why the Lyft driver/company only used the term “destination” as opposed whether he took her home or not. It is important to remember that when you give Lyft/Uber/taxi an address, that is it. They have no idea what the destination is or why you are going there unless you volunteer that information.
 
  • #468
I can't express enough how quiet and tight lipped LE is here. And it is usually because they know what happened and they are building a case. IMO, the key to this case is where this lady was dropped off. And people are usually dropped of right where they are going. She was also hauling luggage of some sort. So she wouldn't have walked far.

LE will remain quiet, then bam! They make an arrest.

So true! I'm sure LE knows alot because of phone/GPS/video.
 
  • #469
I’ve never used Lyft or Uber, so I’m not really sure how it all works. Could her drop off location be something as simple as a convenient store or some other public place? And maybe that’s why LE is not sure where to search because it’s not a personal address? Just thinking out loud here... MOO
They will drop you wherever you want. I also don’t understand why there wouldn’t be a search or canvas in that area. Businesses, gas stations, convenience stores all have cctv these days. It tells me that LE May know more about who she was meeting and why she went to that location.
 
  • #470
I’ve never used Lyft or Uber, so I’m not really sure how it all works. Could her drop off location be something as simple as a convenient store or some other public place? And maybe that’s why LE is not sure where to search because it’s not a personal address? Just thinking out loud here... MOO

An Uber or Lyft will drop you off anywhere you ask, as long as you have an address or location. You do have to enter a destination when you order the ride, so you can't just hop in like a taxi and say, "take me to a bar." You have to enter a location first.
 
  • #471
If her "destination" was a hotel would we have known that by now (via MSM or LE)? Is that a "destination" LE would want to keep to themselves?

grasping at straws here...

MOO
 
  • #472
I haven’t had roommates in many years but when I did I would always at least text a roommate that I was coming home late if I were expecting to be home after eleven pm. Mainly so they wouldn’t freak out and think someone was breaking in. Did she let the roommate(s) know that she was going to be arrive early in the morning? Or did she not disclose when she was coming home? This could also explain the delay in reporting her missing if she never told the roommates when she’d be home at all.

I never let my roommates know anything, but then we didn't have cell phones in those days so it would require calling the landline and nobody would do that, especially at 1:00 AM. My son has roommates and he never knows what they're doing, but maybe that's because they're guys. I don't know.
 
  • #473
I wonder...

A POSSIBLE scenario...ML requests the Lyft, it arrives as scheduled. She gets in. Someone other than ML takes control of her phone. She probably had recent texts with her parents and they are likely saved under Mom or Dad. Someone sends Mom “I landed, taking a Lyft home, love ya bye”. Driver goes to ML entered destination, saying she’s been dropped off, yet she remains in the vehicle. If I understand correctly, drivers pick and choose their fares. Someone in on the plan “requests” a ride and the Lyft driver “accepts”. Now there’s an alibi for the driver who “continued picking up riders”, it’s “proven” ML was dropped off at her requested locations.

So was the text to parents before she got in the Lyft? Looking back, does the language used sound the way ML texted? When was her phone turned off? After she exited the Lyft? When she entered her destination? Later? Did anyone other than the driver see her exit the car?

There’s just too many unknowns for me to believe anything is true after the plane landed. Imo
I tend to think like this to. Why aren't LE putting out more information on this case. How do we know if these questions that seem pretty basic to me have yet been asked and answered.
 
  • #474
If her "destination" was a hotel would we have known that by now (via MSM or LE)? Is that a "destination" LE would want to keep to themselves?

grasping at straws here...

MOO
Strip club would be a destination witheld tho.
 
  • #475
I can't express enough how quiet and tight lipped LE is here. And it is usually because they know what happened and they are building a case. IMO, the key to this case is where this lady was dropped off. And people are usually dropped of right where they are going. She was also hauling luggage of some sort. So she wouldn't have walked far.

LE will remain quiet, then bam! They make an arrest.

BBM:

I completely agree with you that LE's silence is a strong indicator that they know what's happened here.

Sometimes, what LE knows is that foul play has occurred, and they're quietly, stealthily building their case behind the scenes.

Then, as you say, "Bam!" The public gets news.

In those cases, the news comes in the form of an arrest having been made in the case.

Other times, what LE knows is that the person has voluntarily disappeared, and they're quietly, discreetly working to locate the individual and verify that they're continuing to remain missing by choice.

Once that verification occurs, LE will then issue a public statement along the lines of:
"_____ " has been found safe. LE has been in communication with ___ and they are not believed to be in danger. No other information will be released at this time. We thank the public for their interest and assistance in this matter."

My guess is that we're going to get news from LE along the latter lines, hopefully sooner rather than later.

JMO.
 
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  • #476
Religion and/or orientation are off limits at Websleuths unless there is something to indicate they are relevant to the case. At this time, there is nothing in MSM to indicate either topics are relevant.
 
  • #477
IMO, I don’t think she went missing voluntarily. I think she went exactly where she entered for Lyft to take her early that morning. Not to be disrespectful at all, but maybe the destination was to a sketchy place where she’d been before and for that reason she didn't tell her roommates, friends or family that she goes there?

And maybe she didn’t go missing when she first arrived at that destination, but perhaps it was later during the ride back home (or to wherever) from that destination?

Just my opinion
 
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  • #478
Strip club would be a destination witheld tho.

I don't know why LE would withhold the location at all. Wouldn't that location be a starting point for asking people if they saw her? Whether it's a bar, strip club, hotel. Obviously LE is investigating the location or person(s) without releasing the info for some reason. As others have mentioned, maybe because they don't want to scare her off and leave her the opportunity to come back. Frustrating for us that the trail goes cold after the Lyft ride.
 
  • #479
No boyfriend per friend who is speaking to the media.
 
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