UT UT - Reed Jeppson, 15, Salt Lake City, 11 Oct 1964

  • #121
Reed's grave marker at Find a Grave.com

Reed Taylor Jeppson (1949-unknown) - Find a Grave...

Someone needs to contact the website to change the date he went missing. It is listed as October 1, 1964. It should read October 11, 1964. Grass on the ground, at the gravestone, appears to obstruct the second "1" in the date.

Satch
 

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Nothing new on the True Crime Diva article except she has the wrong address.

Satch, good point on the paper route possibly making Reed susceptible to a pedo or rogue neighbor. Reed would have been familiar with his clients and potentially had false trust and easily lured inside.

Oh, to see those case files!
 
  • #124
What if the "friend" that reportedly saw Reed was wrong about seeing Reed on Sunday, or even that he saw Reed? Could that person have seen someone else off in the distance that wasn't Reed? The sister that last saw Reed said he opened up a can of dog food and took it in the backyard to feed the dogs. The gully to the west is closer than St Mary's to the east, and the gully is what was searched in 2010 (and animal bones were found). It would make more sense that Reed's dogs jumped on a scent or chased an animal in the gully than out in open space near St Mary's of the Wasatch. The gully offers better cover for a person with nefarious motives as well. Just trying to think out of the box here.
 
  • #125
After 48 years, woman still has hope missing brother will be found

After 48 years, woman still has hope missing brother will be found

Posted before,

But bringing it back up, because it is the only report that claims to have official police file information from 1964, which reads the following:

"Reed did not leave any information about the possibility of leaving. He has not had a disagreement of any kind with his parents or with any of his brothers or sisters. He had never pulled such a stunt before and is known to be very dependable."

After 48 years, woman still has hope missing brother will be found

Satch
 
  • #126
Reed's gravestone sees to read "Beloved Son and Brother." Another article said that the grave marker read "Families are Forever." Although I don't see that on Reed's grave, if any family were to invent the phrase "Families are Forever!" It would be the Jeppson's!

I read that these were the most lovable, beautiful, amazing people any family could want. We really need to work to keep Reed's case alive. I am optimistic that it can be solved! We just haven't found that smoking gun yet.

Satch
 
  • #127
Found a map of Reed's neighborhood over at a Crime Blogger site:

Reed Jeppson: Where Did He Go? - CrimeBlogger1983

Poster discounts the abduction theory because of Reed having two dogs with him and being athletic would not have made him an easy target. He/she thinks Reed got lost (I feel this is almost impossible, Reed was an Eagle Scout, he knew the way.) Or had an accident himself and the dogs suffering the same fate.

How accurate is the time and mileage on the map? It seems like a lot of walking. Now take into account double the amount of time for Reed to go to those places and come back. Along those routes some kind of accident involving a car or wild animal forcing Reed and his dogs into a dangerous situation seems a bit more likely now. At first I was not aware of those distances, but that is a lot of walking and opportunity where something could have happened. More time than I first realized. IF the map times are accurate.

I still think that Reed being lured into a house by someone he knew is also likely. Did LE go door to door to ask questions to the neighbors and community about Reed? And I also want to find out more about where an alleged pedophile from the neighborhood lived?

Has anyone ever reached out to SLCPD about this case to request more information? Sometimes they can be really helpful in cases like this! I would like to know about the friend that claimed to have seen Reed around 1pm that day? Did they stop and chat? Or not? Was Reed traveling to his home or away from his home when spotted by the friend? Was the school ever searched? Could Reed have hitchhiked home, meeting up with the wrong person? Unlikely IMO, because if Reed was walking his dogs, he knew that he had to walk them home.

It would also be cumbersome for anyone to fit two dogs in a car. A stranger would be apprehensive about that. But less so if Reed was lured into a house by a false-trust neighbor.

Satch
 

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  • #128
Interesting find, Satch. Where is St. Mary's on the map, where he was allegedly seen? Is it the upper left white block that is 47 minutes away? If that is St. Mary's, and Reed was indeed there, he had to have known it was more than a half hour away on foot, the time in which his sister said he needed to return, as she said dinner would be ready. Him being so far away, knowing he only had a short amount of time to care for the dogs, sounds out of character for him, as he was considered responsible.
 
  • #129
Interesting find, Satch. Where is St. Mary's on the map, where he was allegedly seen? Is it the upper left white block that is 47 minutes away? If that is St. Mary's, and Reed was indeed there, he had to have known it was more than a half hour away on foot, the time in which his sister said he needed to return, as she said dinner would be ready. Him being so far away, knowing he only had a short amount of time to care for the dogs, sounds out of character for him, as he was considered responsible.

Thanks!

I just found this! (The map) but have terrible map reading skills, so I am hoping another user can vouch for the distances on it. If those times are accurate, that is a long, long walk even for an athletic teen Eagle Scout with two dogs. It was October. I also found and added some weather history to get the temperatures for Salt Lake City on that day, October 11, 1964.

As little as one single environmental condition or interaction could change everything about this case. That is one of the things that makes it so mysterious. Some researchers claim that abduction would be difficult with two dogs. I mean if Reed had been walking down the street, or roaming the countryside with two dogs that were known by breed to be owner-protective, say two Pit Bulls or Dobermans, I don't think anybody is going to take the risk of hurting him. OK, they were German Short Hair Pointers. And lets say that somehow Reed is lured into a house of someone that he knows on his paper route. I can't see those dogs doing nothing if Reed was attached or molested. If some pedophile wanted to hurt someone, we have to consider that they would consider an easier target. Yes, false trust is still out there, but the dogs it would seem would really be a deterrent for an abductor.

Many families and friends of the missing will blame abduction because they know that in that instance, it is out of control of the family member or loved one to come home on their own. (Held against their will.) And it also provides that hope that they will one day escape their captor(s) and be free. And than work to get an indictment to prosecute the abductor. If the element is suicide (no way in Reed's case), or homicide, that hope is lost. Their is hope for runaways to return, but there is no way that Reed ran away or voluntarily disappeared.

Look at the weather for Salt Lake City Utah on October 11, 1964! What shocked me is the temperature rage disparity of being in the low 70's for a high to dropping to the 30's at night. Did Reed take the same routes every day when walking his dogs? Being the outdoor lover that he was, and his pursuit of adventure as an Eagle Scout, I would say no. These distances and times if accurate provide more and more opportunities leaning me towards a tragic accident more than foul play. Plus taking the weather and distances into consideration with the time element involved.

If his sister's statement of "Be Back soon because we are going to have dinner in a half hour" is as she claims to remember, there is no way, no way possible that Reed could be back in half an hour, or even an hour. Now consider the directions and paths that an athletic teen with two-spirited hunting dogs can move quickly at the same time and all of Utah's hazards considering the wilderness areas of the photos behind the school, or even traffic. Fatigue at that time, animal excitement, Reed adventurous. Yes he was dependable we know this. But something could have happened along the way to make him lose track of time. Even one of his dogs catching his first rabbit, bird, or duck, would be exciting to Reed. It could make him forget time.

I am now starting to lean more towards accident than foul play, mainly because of those map distances and the possibility of rapid environmental changes. In this case, I always thought it was a hop skip and a jump between Reed's house and the old school were he was last seen. There is far more walking territory here than I ever realized!

Satch
 

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  • #130
The entrance to St Mary's was at 2640 E 1300 S which is 1.2 miles (almost dead) east of Reed's house with a mild uphill slope. It was right next to the Bonneville Golf Course which dates back to the 1920's. Walking time from the entrance of St Mary's to Reed's house would have been about 28 minutes for a normal person, but Reed was a high school football player so likely much less for him and his dogs. I put red dots on this map to give you an idea where Reed's house was in relation to the entrance to St Mary's. Map copy of USGS.gov
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  • #131
The entrance to St Mary's was at 2640 E 1300 S which is 1.2 miles (almost dead) east of Reed's house with a mild uphill slope. It was right next to the Bonneville Golf Course which dates back to the 1920's. Walking time from the entrance of St Mary's to Reed's house would have been about 28 minutes for a normal person, but Reed was a high school football player so likely much less for him and his dogs. I put red dots on this map to give you an idea where Reed's house was in relation to the entrance to St Mary's. Map copy of USGS.gov View attachment 338276

Very helpful Chart! Thanks!

It reduces the time element, but not enough for Reed to get there and back in a half hour. If Reed could get there in 15 minutes, and if nothing would have happened to him in that time, it takes him another 15 minutes. Plus more time to be with the dogs in a state of not walking. To look around.

My feeling is that day, all he said to Suzanne was, "I'm going out to feed the dogs. I'll be right back." That does not include walking the dogs. I think the family felt that Reed was going to go out 200 feet to the dog run, feed the dogs, maybe just go around the property and come in for the family dinner. Him going for a walk with the dogs, if he was going to do that, it would seem he would say, "I am going to feed and walk the dogs." Something just isn't connecting here considering Reed's responsibility.

Now if Reed feeding the dogs also meant walking the dogs as part of his daily activities with them, than just Reed saying, "I'm going to feed the dogs" would not be questioned. Hunting dogs need daily exercise, so the communication between Reed and his sister would be an important point here.

If we believe the witness that he saw Reed behind the old Saint Mary's school, than we know that he got there. My feeling is that the tragedy of what ever happened, occurred when Reed was heading back home.

Satch
 
  • #132
Reed's grave marker at Find a Grave.com

Reed Taylor Jeppson (1949-unknown) - Find a Grave...

Someone needs to contact the website to change the date he went missing. It is listed as October 1, 1964. It should read October 11, 1964. Grass on the ground, at the gravestone, appears to obstruct the second "1" in the date.

Satch
I have a Find a Grave account and submitted this change. Hopefully we will see it updated within a month.
JMO
 
  • #133
Yes, thank you for the map, Chart. It helps put things into perspective.
I forget, were these dogs specifically Reed's dogs, or was breeding them a family business, so everyone was responsible for their care?
 
  • #134
Yes, thank you for the map, Chart. It helps put things into perspective.
I forget, were these dogs specifically Reed's dogs, or was breeding them a family business, so everyone was responsible for their care?

By all accounts they were Reed's dogs. He was training them for bird hunting and also was involved in working with them for 4H projects according to his brother Jon. Reed would use his paper route money to buy their dog food.

Satch
 
  • #135
I guess I should have looked a little harder for a better map the other night. I found this USGS map from 1963 which clearly shows where St Mary's was. I used yellow this time. Reed likely would have walked home past (or through) the small Sunset Lawn Cemetery (still there today, good place to hide a body) and by the Curtis Elementary School (torn down and became part of Foothills Shopping Center in the 1970's).

I'm in agreement with Satch that whatever happened to Reed probably happened on his way home if the eyewitness account was correct. It would be interesting to know where Jon and Reed's paper route was.
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  • #136
Thanks again, Chart.
Is there any way this sighting near St. Mary's could have been wrong or confused for a previous time he may have walked his dogs there? How reliable was this witness?
It truly appears he was a long way from home for someone expecting to sit down to dinner in a half hour. And knowing a teen boy's appetite like I do, no way would he want to miss it.
It also sounds like Reed was a responsible, dutiful young man, so being neglectful of the time seems like it would be out of character for him.
 
  • #137
Satch, I have asked that same question over and over again in my head. Was the sighting Sunday, or could it have been Saturday? Nothing I have read gives any information outside of a friend spotted Reed walking his dogs near St. Mary's. Who, what, when and where? If Reed knew dinner was going to be ready shortly, it would make more sense to take the dogs to the gully (two-minute walk to the west and where they did the search ~ten years ago) for a short walk.

1. Who was the eyewitness?
2. What do the police know that they have not disclosed?
3. What perps or pedo's lived in the general area?
 
  • #138
I'd like to know the same.
 
  • #139
Satch, I have asked that same question over and over again in my head. Was the sighting Sunday, or could it have been Saturday? Nothing I have read gives any information outside of a friend spotted Reed walking his dogs near St. Mary's. Who, what, when and where? If Reed knew dinner was going to be ready shortly, it would make more sense to take the dogs to the gully (two-minute walk to the west and where they did the search ~ten years ago) for a short walk.

1. Who was the eyewitness?
2. What do the police know that they have not disclosed?
3. What perps or pedo's lived in the general area?

Just a thought,
These are brilliant questions Chart! I am thinking that maybe a moderator could reach out to SLCPD and see if these questions in Reed's case file could be answered?Mods have more power over regular WS users. Than he/she could post in this thread indicating their responses! We need this evidence!

#1 Sure that we won't be able to get the name of the eyewitness for confidentiality issues. However, a moderator or case insider might be able to contact SLCPD to see if the witness talked to Reed, what they talked about, and could confirm this sighting? How well did this person know Reed? What was their relationship connection?

As for #2, without naming names, what else do they have? And for #3. How do they know that there was a pedophile in the neighborhood?

I will add a #4.

Did Reed and Jon come across any suspicious people on their shared paper route? What made them suspicious?

Oh and #5.

Did Reed going out to feed the dogs, routinely also include walking them?

Just thought of a #6.

Why would Reed walk the dogs so far away from home, knowing that dinner was in half an hour? Now, that is a question for the family because that is uncharacteristic of Reed, knowing his strong commitments to family, reliability, and responsibility. Agree, take the dogs out to the backyard, or out to the gully a few minutes away. Did this witness really see Reed that Sunday or not? Just thinking he saw Reed? Than again, what are the odds that another teen boy would be walking two dogs behind Saint Mary's School also near that time?

Satch
 
  • #140
LOL, is there an echo in here?
 

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