Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #13 *ARREST*

[SharonNeedles]

I wonder if there have been any cases where someone was “accidentally killed” during BDSM, and if so, how it was proven to have been an “accident”.

I’m sure many perps have tried this defense?

If you ever find yourself in that situation just call 911 right away to get medical assistance. Don’t burn/bury the body.

 

[TrutherSleuther]

Information is coming by way of 3rd party (Family in Nigeria to Lawyer to News Reporter) so perhaps things aren't being re-quoted exactly but did the reporter quote the family as saying this was "based on little evidence?"

The family hasn't seen the evidence so how would they know if it is little evidence or a colossal amount?

If the reporter said that then I may have missed it. What the lawyer did say was something along the lines of being confident of AJ being found not guilty if the trial is moved out of state, which she said they will push for once charges are filed.

 

[Anance]

AA paid for the purchase of “Fertilizer” through Venmo on June 3, 2019.

IMO, he purchased the fertilizer because he was going to plant fast growing foliage both on the dig site and the perimeter of his home.

 

[glassheater]

Has it been confirmed that ML met AA on a sugar daddy/ sugar baby website? Confused by the title of this thread.

 

[ethereal*22]

And so it begins- the circus- I was so afraid of this, his family knows a civil rights attorney in NYC. This is just as I figured...oh dear G-d- ! I’ve seen them walk- this is insane—

I hope for Kenzie and her loved ones the truth will not be covered up by politics, money- corruption- omg— the past is reliving itself- I’ve lived through this- this is beyond comprehension- I feel like I need to call Gloria Allred or someone - I don’t know who- this cannot happen to Kenzie-! He cannot skate- speechless- unable to post- this is terrifying-

I’m going to get in trouble for this -? I will stop - way way way too close to home here... omg

 

[Gardenista]

Has it been confirmed that ML met AA on a sugar daddy/ sugar baby website? Confused by the title of this thread.

What are you seeing? On my end, the title is:
UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #13 *ARREST*

 

[Deleted member 278]

What are you seeing? On my end, the title is:
UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #13 *ARREST*

On the home page

 

[alsleuther]

I wonder if this defense attorney is reading websleuths?

 

[TrutherSleuther]

What are you seeing? On my end, the title is:
UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #13 *ARREST*

On the homepage it is titled “Mackenzie Lueck Sugar Daddy Murder” a bit confusing, IMO.

ETA: it’s under the trending discussions tab.

 

[Inthedetails]

What are you seeing? On my end, the title is:
UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #13 *ARREST*

Same. That's the thread title I see as well.

jmo

 

[Gardenista]

On the home page

OK, I see it:

MacKenzie Lueck Sugar Daddy Murder
Was it a Sugardaddy who killed MacKenzie? How did Mackenzie's killer go unnoticed for so long?

 

[Deleted member 278]

Same. That's the thread title I see as well.

jmo

Not the thread title. The home page.

 

[PatLaurel]

It was brief and it's over now. Sorry you weren't able to see it. MOO

ETA: I checked their FB page - thought they might have posted a clip but I don't see one.

i'll try later... google web cache never fails me! But if you find it on FB or YT, please let me know. Im curious to see AA's mother and what she said. Btw... was it in english?

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

The DA doesn’t need to prove that the murder was premeditated, since the murder took place while he was committing the crime of kidnapping and covering up the fact that he had kidnapped her. It’s still the same charge - Aggravated Murder.

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter5/76-5-S202.html

Also we need to keep in mind that there is no insanity defense in Utah.

Wow! No insanity defense! I didn't know that about Utah!! That's much different from the state in which I studied law. What do they do about those that would be considered criminally insane in other states?

 

[Inthedetails]

On the homepage it is titled “Mackenzie Lueck Sugar Daddy Murder” a bit confusing, IMO.

Oh, I see. Yes, now I do see that title. I agree with you - that's not accurate to the known facts and it's also sensational, imo.

I'd like to see the standard title pattern for the discussion as well. WS is better than that, imo.

jmo

 

[osu]

It’s under “Trending Discussions” on the homepage.

 

[JudgeJoe]

On the home page

Dbm.
I see it now. Odd. Shouldn’t be there

 

[wary]

Has it been confirmed that ML met AA on a sugar daddy/ sugar baby website? Confused by the title of this thread.

No, it hasn’t been confirmed at all.

What we know:
ML was interested in the SD/SB concept.

We don’t know if AA was interested in the SD/SB concept at all.

We’ve heard, although we don’t know for sure, that ML and AA met on some sort of online site.

If they did, we don’t know what kind of place it was.

All this MOO

 

[Inthedetails]

Dbm.
I see it now. Odd. Shouldn’t be there

Here's the link to the homepage: Websleuths
Scroll down a little bit to "Trending Discussions"

 

[Anance]

Feelings are not facts, however in the Mormon religion and culture feelings do become facts. If you feel something you KNOW ITS TRUE, even if facts state otherwise. This is very very deeply ingrained from childhood through old age in MLs culture and family religion. Even if she wasn’t active, she would still likely trust her feelings regardless of what someone said - even if they had evidence to back it up. I speak from experience with the religion and culture. It’s a very hard habit to break and very few ever do.

It's well known that Utah is the fraud capital of America because Mormons are so trusting. Here a recent article discussing the distressing fact.

Does Utah deserve the title 'fraud capital of the United States'?