UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #3

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  • #621
Reading along here...I just read about the car alarm being heard...maybe Susan set it off trying to get help or bring attention to the home by hitting the panic button on the keys...or JP did not realize the van was locked and tried to open it while trying to load Susan.

Another thing why is he not in Utah helping look for his wife if "he didn't do anything to her " as he stated in one of his interviews ?...
 
  • #622
Some interesting articles if anyone hadn't seen... also, from the mothersarevanishing blog (cont'd at link)

Neighbor Stephanie Olson said as soon as she heard her neighbor was missing, she had a bad feeling.
"I know she would never leave her kids," Olson said. "If anything, she would have left with the children while Josh was at work. She'd take her kids. I believe that 100 percent. She was really good with her children."
Olson and other neighbors said about a year ago, Susan Powell began talking openly in church about obtaining a divorce. Olson said Susan Powell was very open about her home life and the issues in her marriage.
"She wasn't shy," Olson said. "She talked about divorcing and trying to save money to leave him."


http://mothersarevanishing.blogspot.com/2009/12/susan-powell-familiar-scenario.html

And from today's SLTribune (full article at link)

Chuck and Judy Cox worked to get to know their new son-in-law, who Chuck Cox said has an "interesting" sense of humor that people don't understand.

He grew frustrated with his son-in-law, who would arrive hours late to family dinners or other functions. Joshua Powell's behavior was an odd departure from the way Chuck and Judy Cox raised Susan, they said.

Some of Susan's friends were also put off by Joshua's seemingly anti-social and awkward behavior.

The Coxes silently wondered if Joshua had a possible mental illness, knowing he had a relative that suffered from bipolar disorder. But Joshua's family summed up the man's eccentric behavior as "Josh is just Josh," Chuck Cox said.

They also had "issues" with Joshua's father, Steven Powell, who could not be reached for comment for this story. A man who answered the door of a Puyallup home believed to belong to Steven Powell refused to speak to a Salt Lake Tribune reporter. The Coxes said Steven Powell isn't actively helping with the search for Susan...

Chuck Cox visited his daughter and grandchildren every three to six months, when his job as a safety inspector for the government brought him to Salt Lake City.

Aware that his daughter and her husband had "typical" problems, he believed on a recent visit that her relationship with Joshua had taken a turn for the better. The couple underwent marriage counseling, Chuck Cox said, which encouraged his daughter.

"We were constantly asking her, 'How are things?' And she was telling us that they were better," Chuck Cox said. "And now hearing things ... I think she wasn't telling us the whole story."

"I think she just didn't want us to worry," Judy Cox added. "She wanted to make things work."

Still, the family reached out to Susan out of concern that a day might come when she needed their assistance.

Chuck Cox said he bought his daughter a cell phone when she moved to Utah so she could use it for emergencies. Joshua Powell knew about the phone, he said, but he and Judy paid the bill each month to ensure his daughter had a way to call them.

"We wanted her to be able to call us whenever she wanted -- just on the off chance that if something ever got really weird -- we wanted to cover all of our bases so she could call us for help," he said...

Chuck Cox didn't hear about his daughter's disappearance from her husband until two days after she went missing.

Joshua Powell called Chuck Cox the Tuesday after Susan disappeared, a day after "the entire state was already looking for her," Chuck Cox said.

Since then, he has seen his son-in-law once when in Salt Lake City and spoke with him over the phone once. Joshua behaved strangely in both encounters and claimed he doesn't know what happened to Susan, Chuck Cox said.

He said he has spoken with Joshua's mother in West Valley City, who along with Joshua's sister, Jennifer Graves, is committed to finding out the truth about what happened to Susan. Jennifer's husband, Kirk, has said in previous media interviews that he thinks Joshua could be arrested in connection with Susan's disappearance.

Those comments are disturbing to the Coxes, who are concerned about the well-being of their two grandsons, although Chuck Cox has said Joshua has always been a good father.

"They know him better than we do -- for them to say that, it's like, 'Wow,'" Judy Cox said of Graves' comment.

Chuck Cox said he was careful not to point a finger at his son-in-law at first when news about his daughter broke, in part because of the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping case, where the wrong suspects were initially targeted. But he said he had his own suspicions about Joshua from the start, especially after seeing TV interviews in which a seemingly befuddled Joshua speaks of "making s'mores" and hiking on trails somewhere "down south" in the middle of a snowstorm with his two young children.

He said it's excruciating to hear his 4-year-old grandchild, Charlie, talking about "Mommy being lost."

"That's all he knows," Chuck Cox said. "He's too young to understand."


http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14035282?source=rv

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  • #623
The last time they had a candle light vigil, they took that house apart. Maybe Joshy boy's afraid of what they're planning for this vigil tonight.....

I'd love to see him arrested soon so LE and the media can have a decent Christmas....
 
  • #624
bump for FRAN!!!!

I actually came in here today to update the list. But when I was in the middle of working on it, going to see for anything I missed, I saw Josh left town. You know how that goes?

I'll try and put up an updated list soon and everyone can tell me anything I missed.

fran
 
  • #625
I was just reading on another blog that someone feels That Susan's father knows more than he is really saying.
Hopefully he told ALL HE KNOWS to LE!!!
I'm wondering if physical abuse had started recently from JP to Susan????
I bet the only domestic violence has been emotional, psychological, verbal and financial... and that's a lot worst than physical. Ask anyone that's been abused all of these ways. Physical you can at least get the courts involved and this dumb s&*$ knew that........
 
  • #626
It is very easy to cross the US/Canada border illegally. I live on the border and see it done every day, even though we have a very well guarded border crossing here. There are thousands of unsecured miles where one can cross.:twocents:

LOL, well I live a few miles from the southern border and I KNOW there's ways to cross here!

fran
 
  • #627
I bet the only domestic violence has been emotional, psychological, verbal and financial... and that's a lot worst than physical. Ask anyone that's been abused all of these ways. Physical you can at least get the courts involved and this dumb s&*$ knew that........

Been there and agree with you 100%.
 
  • #628
I bet the only domestic violence has been emotional, psychological, verbal and financial... and that's a lot worst than physical. Ask anyone that's been abused all of these ways. Physical you can at least get the courts involved and this dumb s&*$ knew that........

They say that verbal abuse is only a second away from physical abuse!

fran
 
  • #629
Watching KUTV Channel 2.... technically the cops DO NOT KNOW WHERE JOSH IS! They say the neighbors told LE that he said he was going to Washington... but as of right now he and the children are NOT accounted for.

But the BIL thinks he is still in Utah (per a phone interview earlier today).

"Friends and family are keeping their eyes peeled for him"

Wow....

I think this is a case of being willfully obtuse to throw off the press.

Here is a link to where the attorney is confirming Washington:

Josh Powell's attorney, Scott Williams, said in a text message to The Associated Press that his client went to his father's house in Washington for the holidays with his sons.

So now we have confirmation the dirt bag is indeed in South Hill. Or at least, that's where he's supposed to be.
 
  • #630
Well, apparently the reporter got into that gated community! Wonder what Steven Powell's neighbors think of having Josh in their midst?

Heck, I'd let all the press in I could if I knew there was a chance that creep was inside my gates! Pretty sure some of the neighbors might just feel the same.
 
  • #631
I bet the only domestic violence has been emotional, psychological, verbal and financial... and that's a lot worst than physical. Ask anyone that's been abused all of these ways. Physical you can at least get the courts involved and this dumb s&*$ knew that........

Well, we just do not know if there was ever any physical violence or not, but I would say murder would be pretty physical and certainly the most abusive that can be.

Josh has it in him to do murder, so physical abuse is within the realm of possibility when he got angry. Usually verbal abuse is closely followed by physical abuse........................just sayin.

MOO
 
  • #632
Don't forget about the "World-Wide Candlelight and Prayer Vigil."

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAzz2l140O4[/ame]
 
  • #633
**Shivers***

Joshua Powell is less than twelve miles from me right now. That is, if he hasn't run. This makes my blood boil. Luckily for us they're in South Hill...I don't shop or run errands there often so I don't think it's likely I'll find myself face to face with the mumbling, murdering mouth-breather.

Oh great :eek: at least there's a good couple hours between him and us :/ Susan used to live in my area, per last article, and doesn't sound like any shrinking violet either (nor is kiki, shocker right) but it's undoubtedly that strength over which JP feared he'd lost all control :rolleyes: w/e :loser: :mad:

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  • #635
Oh great :eek: at least there's a good couple hours between him and us :/ Susan used to live in my area, per last article, and doesn't sound like any shrinking violet either (nor is kiki, shocker right) but it's undoubtedly that strength over which JP feared he'd lost all control :rolleyes: w/e :loser: :mad:

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I'm half tempted to make a sign and stand outside those gates.

"TELL US WHERE SUSAN IS!"
 
  • #636
Well, we just do not know if there was ever any physical violence or not, but I would say murder would be pretty physical and certainly the most abusive that can be.

Josh has it in him to do murder, so physical abuse is within the realm of possibility when he got angry. Usually verbal abuse is closely followed by physical abuse........................just sayin.

MOO

They say that verbal abuse is only a second away from physical abuse!

Probably decided he "had to" kill her cuz he knew if he laid a hand on her and gave her half a chance, sheda whooped his sorry @$$ :furious:

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  • #637
I actually came in here today to update the list. But when I was in the middle of working on it, going to see for anything I missed, I saw Josh left town. You know how that goes?

I'll try and put up an updated list soon and everyone can tell me anything I missed.

fran

You're great Fran for doing this for us!!!
 
  • #638
I think this is a case of being willfully obtuse to throw off the press.

Here is a link to where the attorney is confirming Washington:



So now we have confirmation the dirt bag is indeed in South Hill. Or at least, that's where he's supposed to be.

The only think that makes me wonder... the attorney made the comment a couple hours before the 5pm news... and on the news LE said they had no confirmation of where they were and the BIL doubted he ever left Utah. So, who knows...
 
  • #639
I am highly concerned he has left the state and undoubtly with his two children...I am concerned for their safety.
Josh could cross over into Canada probally without a problem and once there he could hide but he would be found and we have an extradition treatie with Canada. One thing though is US has to garauntee no Death Penalty in order for them to agree to sending him back here to be charged if indeed they do...
jmo...

I don't think foreign countries care about the DP with regard to extradition when it concerns an American national. They'd just rather have such people the heck out of their country.
 
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