UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #3

[Solstice Canyon]

...Sooo - what does Josh (with his 2 yrs of community college) do when he starts his real estate business? Something really smart & savvy like spend $80-90K on magnets in a Yellow Book? Ohhhh - that's a real genius of an entrepreneur now isn't it....throwing those big bucks around in front of his other real estate co-workers.

Now - there is a kicker to this if it's true -- and considering Joshy had that HUGE bill to Yellow Book in collections on his bankrupcty -- it could very well be he never intended to pay for it....I saw a post @ either deseretnews or KSL (sorry can't remember) from someone who claimed to have worked w/ him @ homenet who posted that Joshy had said that he wouldn't get the bill for the magnets until "after the campaign" (which I took to mean after all Yellow Books for his market were delivered) -- and if he didn't make enough to pay for it, then he just wouldn't....

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Didn't someone mention that his brother gave him credit for doing some type of tech work for him during his campaign? I'm wondering if that's what he was referring to -- maybe he was waiting on the $ from that to come in.

 

[Texas Mist]

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Didn't someone mention that his brother gave him credit for doing some type of tech work for him during his campaign? I'm wondering if that's what he was referring to -- maybe he was waiting on the $ from that to come in.

Josh would have needed to do more tech work than his brother's website (http://michaelcpowell.org/Pages/Bio.aspx) -- it shows it's designed & hosted by Polished Marketing -- Josh's company.

IMO, that ain't no $80K website. LOL

And I think the reference to 'campaign' means marketing campaign -- ala mass mailouts, telemarketing calls, TV ads, etc.

And while I'm thinking of it, maybe LE should get Joshy's brother the "interrogator" over to talk w/ him ASAP....perhaps this Intelligence Ops professional could wrap this case up like Hacking's brothers did.

 

[Curious Me]

I imagine Josh wants to insure his sons are with his family from now on, and will want to keep them away from Susan's family. I think he senses something more will be coming down real soon. Poor kids being dragged on these trips. He's had plenty of time to plant false memories in the children and they must miss their Mommy so much.

 

[Openmyeyes]

This guy just baffles me. My first impression of him was that he was hollow and in shock. The shock was from having to face what he had done and that he was almost caught red handed.

Watching the first couple video interviews he states that "He doesn't know what happened to her." Then he adds that "He doesn't even know where to begin to look for her." This tells me he didn't really have a plan, only a desire that he acted upon.

There is much more to this story than we know. We've been down this road before, and I'm afraid that selfishness is the key, just like with Scott Peterson. I'm wondering if a girlfriend will appear, or some addiction will surface. TM, your tidbit about him being fired due to "Bad Publicity" is a fantasy comment on his part; it is way too soon for that to be the case.
Heck, even Scott Petersons employer let him stay on for months.

Chances are that Josh didn't realize how hot the frying pan was going to really be, and that his plan or lack of one once the deed was done, would require more work than he anticipated.

I bet he also didn't realize he was going to be in competition with Casey Anthony for biggest villain of the decade. Who wants to start a poll???

 

[Texas Mist]

This guy just baffles me. My first impression of him was that he was hollow and in shock. The shock was from having to face what he had done and that he was almost caught red handed.

Watching the first couple video interviews he states that "He doesn't know what happened to her." Then he adds that "He doesn't even know where to begin to look for her." This tells me he didn't really have a plan, only a desire that he acted upon.

There is much more to this story than we know. We've been down this road before, and I'm afraid that selfishness is the key, just like with Scott Peterson. I'm wondering if a girlfriend will appear, or some addiction will surface. TM, your tidbit about him being fired due to "Bad Publicity" is a fantasy comment on his part; it is way too soon for that to be the case.
Heck, even Scott Petersons employer let him stay on for months.

Chances are that Josh didn't realize how hot the frying pan was going to really be, and that his plan or lack of one once the deed was done, would require more work than he anticipated.

I bet he also didn't realize he was going to be in competition with Casey Anthony for biggest villain of the decade. Who wants to start a poll???

ITA -- obviously - as *we* already knew - going to WA was *not* going to get him out of the media or away from stares...DUH.

Joshua Powell, 34, who police have named as a person of interest in the case after Susan Powell, 28, was reported missing Dec. 7, did not speak to a hoard of cameras and media gathered at the event, held at the LDS Church ward chapel attended by Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox.

He stood in a downpour surrounded by a tight group of supporters who shielded him from the media with umbrellas. Joshua's 4-year-old son, Charlie, accompanied him at the vigil and held a candle as many of Susan's friends and families stared at Joshua in surprise.

http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_14039869

I noticed he's covering his eyes in the photo....sorry folks but I'm so jaded -- too reminiscent of Casey Anthony's most recent fake crying in court.

 

[Curious Me]

I'm with you on the fake crying we are seeing alot of lately. Tears that contain no fluid are the latest fad it seems. Although, Josh doesn't have the eye poke down like Casey does. Josh snivels now, but he may be crying actual tears for himself soon.

 

[Openmyeyes]

Respectfully snipped!

http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_14039869

I noticed he's covering his eyes in the photo....sorry folks but I'm so jaded -- too reminiscent of Casey Anthony's most recent fake crying in court.[/QUOTE]

TM, it reminds me of Scott Peterson and how he pulled his baseball cap down over his eyes when reporters approached him on Christmas day.

We are all jaded. The reality of our 'hobby' makes us that way. We've heard way too many lies, we've seen people actually making their own form of justice and we sit here begging that the innocents get the justice we are actually allowed to have.
I've wondered for so many years why these people do these things. What pushes them over that invisible line to think they could actually kill another person. The serial murders I can almost understand or explain by realizing its more of a sickness. Its the wife murderers and the child murderers that I can't figure out. How do they move down that path. Freedom was one of Scott Petersons triggers. Josh's may be similiar. What if part of his plan was to do away with the kids too, but he got there and couldn't do it.

He had dreams of grandeur and spent money like he had it. I wonder if they had life insurance policies on the kids. Susan probably has one at work.

The selfishness theme will pop up. Just like with Scott, and how about Susan Smith. She wanted her freedom too.

I'm starting to ramble, I better get to bed. Hopefully, my dreams won't be crowded with Scott Peterson, Susan Smith, Casey Anthony, Josh Powell, Mark Hacking, and OJ Simpson. That would be an interesting round table, though. Casey Anthony would horn up to Scott Peterson and he would be looking around for the strawberries and champaign. Susan Smith would go right for OJ as he has money. Mark Hacking would be talking to Josh and telling him not to let his brother in law into see him and explaining how brothers really aren't nice guys at all. They ruined his party, and made him wear clothes. He probably still wants to move and asks Josh for suggestions on what routes to take. Josh will be sitting there with this blank look on his face wondering how he got there. Then he'll tell Mark he has no money, they fired him from his job, and that he just doesn't know where to start. Casey may ask for the boombox from her cell and may put on some music to get the party started, then she'll bring in all her snacks with a big old smile on her face....and so the party goes. They all get along famously. Josh has much to learn but he warms up after time. No tears or sniffles in here, just a bunch of murderers socializing with their peers.

Night night.

 

[SuziQ]

This guy just baffles me. My first impression of him was that he was hollow and in shock. The shock was from having to face what he had done and that he was almost caught red handed.

Watching the first couple video interviews he states that "He doesn't know what happened to her." Then he adds that "He doesn't even know where to begin to look for her." This tells me he didn't really have a plan, only a desire that he acted upon.

There is much more to this story than we know. We've been down this road before, and I'm afraid that selfishness is the key, just like with Scott Peterson. I'm wondering if a girlfriend will appear, or some addiction will surface. TM, your tidbit about him being fired due to "Bad Publicity" is a fantasy comment on his part; it is way too soon for that to be the case.
Heck, even Scott Petersons employer let him stay on for months.

Chances are that Josh didn't realize how hot the frying pan was going to really be, and that his plan or lack of one once the deed was done, would require more work than he anticipated.

I bet he also didn't realize he was going to be in competition with Casey Anthony for biggest villain of the decade. Who wants to start a poll???

IMO, it's a common mistake these guys make. It never occurs to them that people will care and miss the person they tossed away like a broken toaster. They seem totally unprepared and caught off guard by the ensuing firestorm. It must really befuddle them. In fact I think befuddled describes Josh in many of those interviews. lol.

 

[gitana1]

FWIW, Susan's parents need to file an emergency order! ASAP!

They can have a judge draw up emergency, temporary custody papers and they could get custody of the kids by tomorrow afternoon. It was done on the Nancy Cooper case. The judge signed the paper and the husband didn't even get a chance to respond. LE picked the kids up and that was it until a formal hearing could be held.

Just, fwiw,
fran

PS.............not only is this a wonderful tool to insure the safety of the kids, it can often times create valuable insight for LE about the hubby. Ehhh, that depends IF he decides to fight the custody!....fran

PPS.....I forgot what the 'special type hearing' is called. Maybe gitani1 knows!

An "ex parte" hearing.

 

[gitana1]

It really upsets me that LE wasn't keeping closer tabs on Joshua Powell. At the very least, I'd expect the customary "Don't leave town without notifying us" speech and a GPS unit attached to his vehicle. Maybe I watch too many crime dramas. But I feel a little common sense goes a long way in these investigations.

Sorry, I ahve not read ahead so maybe this has been addressed but, how do we know LE isn't tracking him? Just because they say they don't know where he is does not mean that's true!

 

[gitana1]

Josh doesn't have to notify the police of anything.

What we don't know is if LE put a GPS system in the van. The way I look at it, if I could think of it, then they did it already.

Sometimes the police indicate they aren't aware when actually they already know.

See, I should have read ahead!

 

[Texas Mist]

...and was trying to break up the marriage....and Josh is a jerk asking the kids to choose between church and cake :shocked2: Poor Susan - how could she not be miserable living with this buttmunch & putting up w/ her FIL!! ETA - no wonder the Cox's had "issues" w/ daddy Powell !! I think we're going to hear about more sick twisted behavior that Josh exhibited....grrr....I'm so :furious: at him!!


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"One of the biggest problems Susan had was that (Josh) talked to his dad for hours, more than he talked to her," said Tim Peterson, a friend and member of the Powells' ward who has been vocal in the past about Josh Powell and once called police on him.
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Joe Trujillo, who talked to Josh Powell often when he would come visit two doors down the street, said Josh told him only a month ago that some family problems stemmed from how busy and active Susan was with her ward, which Josh Powell started attending again a few months ago because of marriage counseling.

"(Josh) mentioned the church was putting a burden on their marriage," Trujillo said.

Other ward members described a similar scenario.

Peterson said he went with the Elders Quorum presidency last September to offer Susan a blessing when she was feeling sick, and said that Josh Powell talked to them for 45 minutes while his wife sat there sick.

"Not in any part of the time did he show any concern for his wife," Peterson said.

"(Susan) told me that a couple times he would say to the kids, 'You can go to church or have this cake,'&#8201;" Peterson said. "She had to do everything."

Hellewell said he knew Josh struggled with pressure from his family, especially his dad, Stephen Powell, about church.

"His dad is very against the church," Hellewell said. "His dad is always sending him anti-Mormon literature and I've heard stories from Josh and Susan that (Josh's) dad was always trying to break up their marriage."


more here in multipage article -- read page 2 for sure!!

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...ing-West-Valley-woman-has-left-Utah.html?pg=1

 

[christee]

I posted a couple of links in the scanner thread if anyone wants to listen. One is a link to Salt Lake County, Utah. The 2nd one is the Olympia, Washington area.

Hope this helps!

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Has this been posted?
AP &#8211; Josh Powell, the husband of Susan Powell, stands with supporters after a candle light vigil for his wife &#8230;

41 mins ago
PUYALLUP, Wash. &#8211; A Utah man considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife was among more than 60 people who attended a vigil for her Sunday night in her parents' hometown in Washington state.

Sunday's vigil for Susan Powell, the mother of two young boys, was held outside a church in Puyallup, Wash., south of Seattle. Besides Josh Powell, the rainy event was attended by Susan's grandparents, parents and siblings.

Josh Powell, 34, of the Salt Lake City suburb West Valley City, did not speak to a hoard of cameras and media gathered at the event.....................


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091221/ap_on_re_us/us_missing_mom_utah

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Going to that vigil was the biggest joke between Josh and his dad i bet. Josh is really trying to out do Drew in the humor. He has the same sense of humor I bet that Drew does.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

He is laughing at everyone.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

He went and cried in the church that next sunday just to let them know it was their fault he had to kill her.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

James Hofheins, who administers the Facebook group, said a prayer at the vigil, and asked God to comfort Susan Powell's parents, her children and "all of her friends and family."

Joshua Powell was not mentioned .

"I'm still friends with Josh," said Kiirsi Hellewell, who has described Susan as her best friend.

"I know we're all praying for Josh," she said. "At least, some of us."

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14039869



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BBM that is strange.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

He went to the neighbors Peterson that day just to let him know, here I am and she is not.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

If you want to know what Josh is going to do next think of the most outrageous thing he could do with a twisted sense of humor thrown in.