VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #2 - ***READ FIRST POST***

[Jersey*Girl]

There's more that I did with various colors that help it to be seen. One sec...

 

[Dushi]

I think it's possible due to some similiatries and the fact the person on the left was moderator of the board Amy's photo was on.

It may not be him ... but I think it's worth a sleuthe .. Sketches are always well done , but "perfect" is impossible so that's my .2c

I am not accusing anyone , I just feel it's worth sleuthing ..

<modsnip>

But.. you said it was fact

i would like a link please as at this time I have no opinion and I am so tired of things, opinions, statements , facts being brought over with no legal link


Your post...

Randolph2911
Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012
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So for whoever thought CC wasn't linked to anything ...

He's the moderator of the board on AAV where Amy's photo was found in 2004.

There is your "connection" , and it's not a rumor ...

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Pictures of the wrist area with various color saturations. It's apparent something is there...

Original picture:

Cropped picture with noted areas of concern:

Cropped pic of wrist area:

The next 5 pics are the same pic as the one directly above but with various different color saturations:

 

[Sillybilly]

While I believe i have seen the letters (ELLS?), i'm not sure it isn't something caused by her right hand creating an indent on the mattress/sheet. I do believe she is chained though, and am wondering if it could be a handcuff on her right arm, touched up by black marker to cover the shiny silver. It is interesting that all 3 pics we are privy to are taken so that side of her body is not visible. Sorry to sound crass, but there are lots of other erotic positions she could have been photographed in, but the only ones we have hide the side where the area in question seems to be.

On the AAV site where Amy's pics appear, (i think the "guest escort" pics), none of the other girls appear in distress as Amy does, so the pic being included there is certainly odd. I looked for any bondage type pics, and the ONLY thing I see on the same page is that the blonde girl named Alexis appears to have leather wrist straps.

As for the dark areas around the eyes, right from the beginning I felt it was smudged mascara and eye liner.

All JMO

 

[Sillybilly]

Thank you so much for posting these pictures! I think I see something really, really weird, look at the headboard, it just stops on the left side of the picture, the right side is normal but there is more mattress than headboard on the left! Hope I am not seeing things!

In that pic, the full headboard isn't showing. On either side of the heart, between the heart and the outer edges of the headboard, there is a vertical bar that comes up and veers out towards the outer edge of the frame. You literally aren't "seeing things" because in that particular pic, both side frame bars aren't showing.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

While I believe i have seen the letters (ELLS?), i'm not sure it isn't something caused by her right hand creating an indent on the mattress/sheet. I do believe she is chained though, and am wondering if it could be a handcuff on her right arm, touched up by black marker to cover the shiny silver. It is interesting that all 3 pics we are privy to are taken so that side of her body is not visible. Sorry to sound crass, but there are lots of other erotic positions she could have been photographed in, but the only ones we have hide the side where the area in question seems to be.

On the AAV site where Amy's pics appear, (i think the "guest escort" pics), none of the other girls appear in distress as Amy does, so the pic being included there is certainly odd. I looked for any bondage type pics, and the ONLY thing I see on the same page is that the blonde girl named Alexis appears to have leather wrist straps.

As for the dark areas around the eyes, right from the beginning I felt it was smudged mascara and eye liner.

All JMO

"Nikki" the curly haired blonde, the blue dress pic, the full size one showing her on her knees, not the cropped one - well her ankles have some kind of straps on both of them. I cannot crop &/or blow it up right now bc I'm on my phone.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Sillybilly, look at that girl's ankles, 1st pic, blue dress...
http://web.archive.org/web/20060323...-vacations.com/guest_escorts_entertainers.htm

 

[Sillybilly]

Sillybilly, look at that girl's ankles, 1st pic, blue dress...
http://web.archive.org/web/20060323...-vacations.com/guest_escorts_entertainers.htm

I wondered about that too ... thought it might be strappy sandals perhaps, as they are fairly symetrical.

 

[Sillybilly]

Pareidolia>

Sorry for the bit of levity ... couldn't resist

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Def needed that. Amy's case is haunting.

 

[neesaki]

Sillybilly, look at that girl's ankles, 1st pic, blue dress...
http://web.archive.org/web/20060323...-vacations.com/guest_escorts_entertainers.htm

I see what you're saying I think, the straps, but they just look like shoes with ankle straps to me.

 

[88keys]

Can you please point out to me anywhere else you see a chain linked to her wrist ? I don't see them "all over the place" , I do see one chain in this location though ...

You are circling a huge area there. Could you be more specific? If you're talking about that black thing around her wrist, we did discuss it, back in the other thread. We thought it might be some kind of bracelet, and maybe even a tether. I do see it; I do not see any chains on the bed frame. Even with the hugely blown up photos everyone is posting. In fact, I think they make it even harder to see anything.

I believe the photos were "silently" confirmed by the FBI. I have read this at various websites .... I feel (like I've said repeatedly) that the photos on AAV's website were not original photos.

Can you provide links to those websites?

Maybe whoever placed them online disturbed the image enough to cause doubt (earlobes , other distortions) ... but "Jas" has never been seen anywhere else , the family says its her , this great forum had a verified user confirm the FBI says its her , and I would bet every dollar I had it was her ...

FA never said that the FBI confirmed the pics were Amy. She said they felt strongly enough that it MIGHT be Amy that they sent someone to investigate. I agree that that is pretty compelling, as I'm sure the FBI doesn't like to waste their time, but it's not the same as the FBI confirming for sure that they are her.

 

[88keys]

I see what you're saying I think, the straps, but they just look like shoes with ankle straps to me.

I agree. I can see the buckles on them.

 

[Cuoco7]

I agree. I can see the buckles on them.

I see heels and straps too. She doesn't look like a willing participant in the first photo, but I don't get that sense from the second.
Also check out "Exotica" on that wayback machine link. Does the face look like the Amy photos?

I haven't seen this link before, thanks jersey

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I wondered about that too ... thought it might be strappy sandals perhaps, as they are fairly symetrical.

I see what you're saying I think, the straps, but they just look like shoes with ankle straps to me.

I agree. I can see the buckles on them.

I see heels and straps too. She doesn't look like a willing participant in the first photo, but I don't get that sense from the second.
Also check out "Exotica" on that wayback machine link. Does the face look like the Amy photos?

I haven't seen this link before, thanks jersey

Omgosh, I think you guys could be right. My mind automatically "went there" bc of what we were discussing. Jeesh I hate this crap so much.

Re "Exotica", I'll go look again...

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I see heels and straps too. She doesn't look like a willing participant in the first photo, but I don't get that sense from the second.
Also check out "Exotica" on that wayback machine link. Does the face look like the Amy photos?

I haven't seen this link before, thanks jersey

Hmmm. Looks like there are some similarities, The jawline seems smaller in Exitica, though. She also seems like maybe she has longer legs. The eyes are weird, is it the angle?

 

[masootz]

FA never said that the FBI confirmed the pics were Amy. She said they felt strongly enough that it MIGHT be Amy that they sent someone to investigate. I agree that that is pretty compelling, as I'm sure the FBI doesn't like to waste their time, but it's not the same as the FBI confirming for sure that they are her.

rsbm - i agree. fa indicated the fbi "verified" the pics were amy but she used the term "verified" several times when i think that term was too strong (maybe "considered", "suspected", etc would have been better). i don't think it's the fbi's m.o. to verify anything like that, and the complaint has been made that the fbi does not share information with the family in any case so i don't know how fa would know that.

i think it's important to recall the nature of the discovery of the pictures -

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/hyscience_dr_ph.php (warning - link has explicit images).

hyscience.com received an email (below) from allan k on sept 21, 2005 -

"Sirs,
I recently came across two photos on an Adult site that I feel resemble Amy Bradley.

Click on Adult Escorts...The second set of photos is "JAS" (images attached).

Although an older photo, the resemblence is strong and tattoos strategically covered.

(Phone number deleted at readers request)

Sincerely,
Allan K......"

according to the site, "allan k" sleuths these types of sites for missing/trafficked women. i mention all of this simply to bring us back a bit to the origins of the discovery of these photos. they were on a poorly designed dodgy escort site for up to two years before they were discovered. that doesn't mean they're not ab, it simply means the only thing that might link them to her is they arguably look like her. i'm sure with enough digging you could find other pictures of people who look like her (in fact, someone braver than me could probably look at other similar sites to see if other pictures from this series exist).

i have seen theories regarding the photos being posted to embarrass ab, incite her family, etc, but i don't know how someone posting pictures of a girl called "jas" on a shoddy escort service web site where the pics sat for a year or two somehow equates to having been nefariously uploaded to embarrass the competition or the family or ab.

at best (in terms of finding her) it's a link from eight to ten years ago to ab's whereabouts, at worst (in terms of finding her) it's someone who looks like her. in either case, it's all opinions and best guesses, not fact. keeping an open mind about all possibilities is the best chance anyone has of finding out what happened to her. two cents, my opinion, etc.

 

[Cltguy49]

rsbm - i agree. fa indicated the fbi "verified" the pics were amy but she used the term "verified" several times when i think that term was too strong (maybe "considered", "suspected", etc would have been better). i don't think it's the fbi's m.o. to verify anything like that, and the complaint has been made that the fbi does not share information with the family in any case so i don't know how fa would know that.

i think it's important to recall the nature of the discovery of the pictures -

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/hyscience_dr_ph.php (warning - link has explicit images).

hyscience.com received an email (below) from allan k on sept 21, 2005 -

"Sirs,
I recently came across two photos on an Adult site that I feel resemble Amy Bradley.

Click on Adult Escorts...The second set of photos is "JAS" (images attached).

Although an older photo, the resemblence is strong and tattoos strategically covered.

(Phone number deleted at readers request)

Sincerely,
Allan K......"

according to the site, "allan k" sleuths these types of sites for missing/trafficked women. i mention all of this simply to bring us back a bit to the origins of the discovery of these photos. they were on a poorly designed dodgy escort site for up to two years before they were discovered. that doesn't mean they're not ab, it simply means the only thing that might link them to her is they arguably look like her. i'm sure with enough digging you could find other pictures of people who look like her (in fact, someone braver than me could probably look at other similar sites to see if other pictures from this series exist).

i have seen theories regarding the photos being posted to embarrass ab, incite her family, etc, but i don't know how someone posting pictures of a girl called "jas" on a shoddy escort service web site where the pics sat for a year or two somehow equates to having been nefariously uploaded to embarrass the competition or the family or ab.

at best (in terms of finding her) it's a link from eight to ten years ago to ab's whereabouts, at worst (in terms of finding her) it's someone who looks like her. in either case, it's all opinions and best guesses, not fact. keeping an open mind about all possibilities is the best chance anyone has of finding out what happened to her. two cents, my opinion, etc.

And here in lies the problem. There have been no sightings, no additional photo's, nothing. Quite honestly I'm not sure these pictures are Amy either, could be but some people thought the Amy Bradley selling quilts looked an awful lot like her. So where does that leave us? We looked at these pictures, tried to reconstruct what happened and keep coming up with guesses?

The only "fact" we have is that Amy didn't come home to Virginia. The probable facts are someone saw her in a restroom and someone saw her in Otrbanda. After that things go cold. I have to wonder, how do we know the pictures, if they are Amy, were taken in 2002? I don't recall who verified that date.

What are we missing?

 

[masootz]

And here in lies the problem. There have been no sightings, no additional photo's, nothing. Quite honestly I'm not sure these pictures are Amy either, could be but some people thought the Amy Bradley selling quilts looked an awful lot like her. So where does that leave us? We looked at these pictures, tried to reconstruct what happened and keep coming up with guesses?

The only "fact" we have is that Amy didn't come home to Virginia. The probable facts are someone saw her in a restroom and someone saw her in Otrbanda. After that things go cold. I have to wonder, how do we know the pictures, if they are Amy, were taken in 2002? I don't recall who verified that date.

What are we missing?

good points. we don't know when the pics were taken, just that they were on the web site as early as 2002 (according to "others", but more likely around 2004 (the earliest i recall finding them on waybackmachine).

 

[Cltguy49]

One other thing, in the photos that aren't blocking out the explicit images, the person in the photo appears endowed, the pictures of Amy on the ship certainly doesn't look like that. I'm not saying they could have had them enhanced. Just thinking out loud