VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #2 - ***READ FIRST POST***

[Cltguy49]

I have to go back to my original theory that this abduction was put into place BEFORE the Bradleys left for the cruise. It's entirely possibly Amy made some friends on ICQ or something of the like and planned to meet them either on board the ship or at one of the ports of call. At that time predators were harder to find because the tools to find where these people came from weren't very sophisticated.......1 Theory

Or, it's something more sinister, and if I am stepping on toes please delete, but did someone have something against the Bradleys? Did they owe money to someone? Was there a business deal gone wrong? I am in NO WAY saying the Bradley's are responsible I am merely suggesting this could have been a relatiation. How do you hurt someone the most? Take their child and disappear. Killing her would bring closure. Taking her and disappearing without a trace leaves an open wound........again, just a thought

 

[Randolph2911]

Assuming there is actual writing on the mattress, could it not just be a brand name? The brand of bed/mattress?

I have no idea if this picture is Amy or not. I genuinely don't understand how anyone can 'verify' with total confidence that it is Amy - it's surely impossible to know for sure...?

I also don't understand why an age progression drawing has not been done. Surely the best chance for Amy is if someone, somewhere, recognises her ...?

Not impossible WHATSOEVER.

We had a WebSleuths verified poster. That isn't someone who is "pretending" to be associated with the case. There are steps to verifying someone before making them an official poster.

Websleuths has a process that people have to go through to become verified. This photo can be confirmed by the FBI and American intelligence with no problem. Impossible it is not.

Unless the moderators withdraw the status of a poster , or make a statement -- I see there posts as verified and I believe with 100% confidence that the photograph is Amy.

The FBI would not fly to Margarita Island , if they "couldn't tell". We have experts in out LE , and they flew down to the brothel.

The woman "jas" has never been identified , and the websites owners told the FBI they didn't know who the photo was only that it came from curaçao.

The photo is amy , and it's been confirmed .

 

[Sillybilly]

Kinda OT, but as it relates to Royal C ...

The young woman (now identified) who went overboard recently while on the Allure of the Seas (and RC has a witness and surveillance vid of the incident?) .. there have been recent posts on her Twitter account:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8428599&postcount=10"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL/TN - Name withheld - 21 yrs old - Ft.Lauderdale/Bartlett - OVERBOARD - 16-Sep-2012[/ame]

 

[masootz]

Not impossible WHATSOEVER.

We had a WebSleuths verified poster. That isn't someone who is "pretending" to be associated with the case. There are steps to verifying someone before making them an official poster.

Websleuths has a process that people have to go through to become verified. This photo can be confirmed by the FBI and American intelligence with no problem. Impossible it is not.

Unless the moderators withdraw the status of a poster , or make a statement -- I see there posts as verified and I believe with 100% confidence that the photograph is Amy.

The FBI would not fly to Margarita Island , if they "couldn't tell". We have experts in out LE , and they flew down to the brothel.

The woman "jas" has never been identified , and the websites owners told the FBI they didn't know who the photo was only that it came from curaçao.

The photo is amy , and it's been confirmed .

verified as someone associated with the case or family. not verified to have papal infallibility. your opinions are your opinions, they're not fact.

 

[Sillybilly]

hyscience.com received an email (below) from allan k on sept 21, 2005 -

"Sirs,
I recently came across two photos on an Adult site that I feel resemble Amy Bradley.

Click on Adult Escorts...The second set of photos is "JAS" (images attached).

Although an older photo, the resemblence is strong and tattoos strategically covered.

(Phone number deleted at readers request)

Sincerely,
Allan K......"

I can be as dumb as a darn post at times, so can someone please explain to me how Allan would know the tattoos are "strategically covered" when we simply can't see them?

 

[neesaki]

And here in lies the problem. There have been no sightings, no additional photo's, nothing. Quite honestly I'm not sure these pictures are Amy either, could be but some people thought the Amy Bradley selling quilts looked an awful lot like her. So where does that leave us? We looked at these pictures, tried to reconstruct what happened and keep coming up with guesses?

The only "fact" we have is that Amy didn't come home to Virginia. The probable facts are someone saw her in a restroom and someone saw her in Otrbanda. After that things go cold. I have to wonder, how do we know the pictures, if they are Amy, were taken in 2002? I don't recall who verified that date.

What are we missing?

I also have had this question as to how can we know when the photos were taken. She doesn't necessarily look any older, just has a lot of makeup on. And what appears to be a cheap wig, imo. I have wondered if the photos were taken very early on after she disappeared. That frightened, close to horrified expression on her face in that first photo is why I say this. It leads me to believe this is the first time she's been exposed to this abusive type of treatment.

I also am wondering how we know the photos were on that website for almost two years. How can we know that? Surely not from the owners of that website, since when would they start being honest about anything, imo. Very possibly this is something I missed earlier in the thread, I'll try to go back and find it. Or if anyone knows, it would save me some time, and TIA.

The woman in these photos may not be Amy, but I am one who thinks that it very probably is her, unless we get information that tells me otherwise. It's also obvious to me that the AB selling quilts was not her, jmo of course.

 

[Cltguy49]

Not impossible WHATSOEVER.

We had a WebSleuths verified poster. That isn't someone who is "pretending" to be associated with the case. There are steps to verifying someone before making them an official poster.

Websleuths has a process that people have to go through to become verified. This photo can be confirmed by the FBI and American intelligence with no problem. Impossible it is not.

Unless the moderators withdraw the status of a poster , or make a statement -- I see there posts as verified and I believe with 100% confidence that the photograph is Amy.

The FBI would not fly to Margarita Island , if they "couldn't tell". We have experts in out LE , and they flew down to the brothel.

The woman "jas" has never been identified , and the websites owners told the FBI they didn't know who the photo was only that it came from curaçao.

The photo is amy , and it's been confirmed .

Assuming, for the sake of argument, the pictures ARE Amy, so what? They are at least 8 years old or older? How do they help anyone find her now? :banghead:

 

[Randolph2911]

I see heels and straps too. She doesn't look like a willing participant in the first photo, but I don't get that sense from the second.
Also check out "Exotica" on that wayback machine link. Does the face look like the Amy photos?

I haven't seen this link before, thanks jersey

I don't think so ...

But I believe the "wrist chains" that "Alexis" is wearing are the same thing Amy is

 

[Randolph2911]

And here in lies the problem. There have been no sightings, no additional photo's, nothing. Quite honestly I'm not sure these pictures are Amy either, could be but some people thought the Amy Bradley selling quilts looked an awful lot like her. So where does that leave us? We looked at these pictures, tried to reconstruct what happened and keep coming up with guesses?

The only "fact" we have is that Amy didn't come home to Virginia. The probable facts are someone saw her in a restroom and someone saw her in Otrbanda. After that things go cold. I have to wonder, how do we know the pictures, if they are Amy, were taken in 2002? I don't recall who verified that date.

What are we missing?

There have been multiple sightings

- San Francisco
- Barbados
- curaçao

And , let's not forget ... The FBI's website has a sketch of Amy that is identical to "Jas".

I'm just sayin ....

 

[Randolph2911]

I have to go back to my original theory that this abduction was put into place BEFORE the Bradleys left for the cruise. It's entirely possibly Amy made some friends on ICQ or something of the like and planned to meet them either on board the ship or at one of the ports of call. At that time predators were harder to find because the tools to find where these people came from weren't very sophisticated.......1 Theory

Or, it's something more sinister, and if I am stepping on toes please delete, but did someone have something against the Bradleys? Did they owe money to someone? Was there a business deal gone wrong? I am in NO WAY saying the Bradley's are responsible I am merely suggesting this could have been a relatiation. How do you hurt someone the most? Take their child and disappear. Killing her would bring closure. Taking her and disappearing without a trace leaves an open wound........again, just a thought

I too think its possible this was pre planned , esp. when we were told that people linked to her captors were taking photos of the Bradley's at there home in VA.

Although the people weren't found and it was said a rental car was used , when adding 2 + 2 it says to me that LE knows the group/faction that has Amy.

 

[Sillybilly]

And , let's not forget ... The FBI's website has a sketch of Amy that is identical to "Jas"....

<rsbm>

Anyone know when the sketch was first released (before or after the pics were found on AAV)?

 

[Randolph2911]

But.. you said it was fact

i would like a link please as at this time I have no opinion and I am so tired of things, opinions, statements , facts being brought over with no legal link


Your post...

Randolph2911
Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012
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So for whoever thought CC wasn't linked to anything ...

He's the moderator of the board on AAV where Amy's photo was found in 2004.

There is your "connection" , and it's not a rumor ...

CC is "Carlos" on AAV's message board.

Reading the board(s) , and googling what I told you to will explain that. I can't post certain links on here.

Please , google "Charles Croes Amy Bradley" -- and take time to read.

 

[Cltguy49]

There have been multiple sightings

- San Francisco
- Barbados
- curaçao

And , let's not forget ... The FBI's website has a sketch of Amy that is identical to "Jas".

I'm just sayin ....

THBOMK there are 2 verified sightings, one by the Sailor and one by the woman in the restroom, at both those sightings Amy gave her name. The sighting in SF is BELIEVED to be her but has not been verified. I beleive FA said that.

As for FA, she is a verified insider for the Bradleys she has been authorized by the Bradleys to speak for them and they have given her their thoughts and beliefs. She has never spoken to the FBI and has never said she has spoken to them, as a matter of fact, she has said numerous times the FBI has not been very forthcoming.

If it was my child that was missing and I was desperate to find her and saw a picture that very much resembled her I'd say I was certain it was! But would I be certain because I knew definitley or was it because I WANTED TO BELIEVE it was her? These pictures surfaced almost 5 years after Amy went missing.

 

[Cltguy49]

I too think its possible this was pre planned , esp. when we were told that people linked to her captors were taking photos of the Bradley's at there home in VA.

Although the people weren't found and it was said a rental car was used , when adding 2 + 2 it says to me that LE knows the group/faction that has Amy.

And this is why I don't think the pictures, if they are Amy, have much meaning. Why would there not be more of her, sent say every year or so? That would be MORE torment to me. I'm just sayin

 

[neesaki]

And here in lies the problem. There have been no sightings, no additional photo's, nothing. Quite honestly I'm not sure these pictures are Amy either, could be but some people thought the Amy Bradley selling quilts looked an awful lot like her. So where does that leave us? We looked at these pictures, tried to reconstruct what happened and keep coming up with guesses?

The only "fact" we have is that Amy didn't come home to Virginia. The probable facts are someone saw her in a restroom and someone saw her in Otrbanda. After that things go cold. I have to wonder, how do we know the pictures, if they are Amy, were taken in 2002? I don't recall who verified that date.

What are we missing?

As far as other sightings, I got the unspoken impression, just an impression mind you, from FA that there had been later sightings but the information is not being released to the public. Well, let's just say that they would not confirm if there had or had not been later sightings. I guess I question it because if there have been no later sightings, why not just admit as much. But, in the words of Sillybilly, I can at times be dumb as a darn post myself, .

ITA that it has gone cold as far as we are concerned.

 

[neesaki]

Assuming, for the sake of argument, the pictures ARE Amy, so what? They are at least 8 years old or older? How do they help anyone find her now? :banghead:

I know, other than in some way it may possibly verify what happened to her fourteen years ago.

Also, maybe called grasping at straws? :banghead:

 

[masootz]

As far as other sightings, I got the unspoken impression, just an impression mind you, from FA that there had been later sightings but the information is not being released to the public. Well, let's just say that they would not confirm if there had or had not been later sightings. I guess I question it because if there have been no later sightings, why not just admit as much. But, in the words of Sillybilly, I can at times be dumb as a darn post myself, .

ITA that it has gone cold as far as we are concerned.

fa variously mentioned a nov 2005 sighting in "salinja club, curacao" but alternately mentioned the last sighting as being the barbados one. see [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8271809&postcount=227"]http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8271809&postcount=227[/ame] for a mention of the salinja club (it's mentioned in most of her timelines, but not mentioned most of the time when she states barbados was the last sighting).

 

[Dushi]

CC is "Carlos" on AAV's message board.

Reading the board(s) , and googling what I told you to will explain that. I can't post certain links on here.

Please , google "Charles Croes Amy Bradley" -- and take time to read.

When I google that I come to two other forums
I choose not to go into the AAV site

 

[neesaki]

fa variously mentioned a nov 2005 sighting in "salinja club, curacao" but alternately mentioned the last sighting as being the barbados one. see http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8271809&postcount=227 for a mention of the salinja club (it's mentioned in most of her timelines, but not mentioned most of the time when she states barbados was the last sighting).

But they also say "released to the public":

Posted by FindAmy: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
Wondergirl, I posted a timeline back a few pages, but here it is,again. This is information that has been released to the public. I can help with as much information as I can say.

March 24, 1998 - Amy disappeared from Rhapsody of the Seas

August, 1998 - Amy was seen at Porto Marie, Curacao

January, 1999 - Amy was seen in an Otrobanda Hotel, Curacao

April 18, 2003 - Amy was seen in San Francisco, California

2004 - 2005 - Amy's photograph appeared on a Venezuelan escort website

March 1, 2005 - Amy was seen in Bridgetown, Barbados

November, 2005 - Amy was seen in a Salinja club, Curacao

 

[neesaki]

When I google that I come to two other forums
I choose not to go into the AAV site

ITA with that one, I'm not going there either, :no: :no: :no: