VA - Amy Bradley - missing from cruise ship, Curacao - 1998 #3

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  • #881
i loved the documentary and thought it was very well done. I have always believed that she was trafficked, and I still believe that after watching the documentary.

I hope that the Bradleys are able to use the IP address to track down who is visiting the website on holidays, birthdays, etc. IMO the only person who would be viewing the website on those days would be Amy.

Hopefully the doc can lead to someone coming forward or more resources to find Amy.
 
  • #882
It never happened. It was another conspiracy theory goose chase put forward by FindAmy.
How do you know it never happened? Just wondering, i was around when FindAmy was here but don't remember every post.
 
  • #883
Was the guy who saw Amy on the beach with 2 men in porto Marie not verified? He said he was 100%positive it was her and confirmed her tattoos. He recognized AD as one of the men with her. He saw him on America’s Most Wanted. He said if he hadn’t been staring at him so intently he wouldnt have remembered him. So many things about Amy ‘s case is frustrating.Especially with the FBI.
 
  • #884
Was the guy who saw Amy on the beach with 2 men in porto Marie not verified? He said he was 100%positive it was her and confirmed her tattoos. He recognized AD as one of the men with her. He saw him on America’s Most Wanted. He said if he hadn’t been staring at him so intently he wouldnt have remembered him. So many things about Amy ‘s case is frustrating.Especially with the FBI.
In the recent NF program, with the female FBI agent narrating, she said something like it was a credible sighting. My takeaway is that the FBI 100% believe that it was Amy.
 
  • #885
Oh no. You just reopened Pandora's box..

I thought Amy's mother asked the photo person if he could reprint Amy's photos and he said "yes".
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I thought she said “remake” as in reprint. I don’t think Amy & Brad put on their fancy clothes for another photo shoot.
 
  • #886
I really hope there are more sightings/information that just hasn’t been released to the public. I get the impression the FBI have very little additional information to what is known already.

20 years is a long time without any information. The only thing that makes me doubt she is still alive - the lack of further attempts to make herself known to people in all that time.

IP address could be anyone connected to her viewing it in Barbados or even someone changing their VPN to Barbados as a sick joke or a true crime fan.
 
  • #887
What did y'all make of the FBI agents arriving to the cabin, and finding that the balcony table had been pushed up against the railing? They called it "the glass of the balcony."

In the first episode, the male FBI agent says -

"The balcony was arranged, so that there were two lounge chairs and then a small table. The little table was pushed up so it was against the glass of the balcony. Amy's shoes were found on the balcony neatly placed together beside the little table." (Part One, 22:58)

He continues: "You could speculate, did she jump? But, there's no direct evidence of that." He emphasizes the word "direct". (Part One, 22:38)

He goes on, but before we can hear what else he has to say, the camera cuts to the female agent, who states -

"I don't really take a table being moved as a key piece of evidence, because, things of course had been moved, because of the cleaning crew. So it gets very difficult." (Part One, 22:32)

I do wonder if the housekeeper(s) who cleaned the Bradley's room were interviewed. I assume they were. Housekeepers usually have cleaning routines. Wouldn't they have been able to remember if they moved a table up against the railing?

The cleaners may not have noticed the table there, if this was just a stay, but then the FBI agent says things had been moved during cleaning. Did they not think that detail was important? Or did the documentary makers leave important additional information out? Does anyone know what time the Bradley's checked out?
 
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I totally get where you're coming from and I agree. AD is suspicious. I just meant the FBI didn’t have enough solid evidence to build a case against him.

That one alleged sighting between 530am–6am couldn’t be confirmed. Without more concrete facts and an established timeline, it was all just very circumstantial.

That said, I believe the FBI agent said they would’ve arrested AD if they were able to. But being in international waters limited them to only being able to detain him.

Maybe if they'd been able to arrest him, they would've gotten more. I think it's a possibility that he was involved but it’s clear they didn’t have much to go on at the time.
Before you can have a murder or kidnapping, you have to prove Amy ever left the room. To my knowledge, there is absolutely zero proof that she did. Some eyewitnesses said they saw something at some undetermined time and it could not be verified.

To include "Yellow" you have to prove he was not in his room after the time (3:30am?) he said he returned and before Amy was declared missing. To my knowledge, again, there is absolutely zero proof that he was other than the same unverified eyewitnesses.
 
  • #889
Is sleeping on the balcony during a cruise really a thing? It sounds terribly uncomfortable to me, but then I'm middle aged.

Have they said if the glass table on the balcony had footprints on it or not?
 
  • #890
There were three witnesses who saw Amy Bradley with Yellow - Lori Thompson (witness in the Netflix documentary), her friend Crystal Roberts, and Elizabeth. Elizabeth claims she was in the disco the morning Amy and Yellow entered. She testified to a federal grand jury in Virginia.

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  • #891
There were three witnesses who saw Amy Bradley with Yellow - Lori Thompson (witness in the Netflix documentary), her friend Crystal Roberts, and Elizabeth. Elizabeth claims she was in the disco the morning Amy and Yellow entered. She testified to a federal grand jury in Virginia.

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I wonder why the drink part / Elizabeth’s account wasn’t included in the documentary. Anything could have been in the drink.
 
  • #892
There were three witnesses who saw Amy Bradley with Yellow - Lori Thompson (witness in the Netflix documentary), her friend Crystal Roberts, and Elizabeth. Elizabeth claims she was in the disco the morning Amy and Yellow entered. She testified to a federal grand jury in Virginia.

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You got it . Is she the one that saw he turn on the sound system and has her a drink?
 
  • #893
Was the guy who saw Amy on the beach with 2 men in porto Marie not verified? He said he was 100%positive it was her and confirmed her tattoos. He recognized AD as one of the men with her. He saw him on America’s Most Wanted. He said if he hadn’t been staring at him so intently he wouldnt have remembered him. So many things about Amy ‘s case is frustrating.Especially with the FBI.

The FBI can’t confirm an eyewitness sighting without some corroborating evidence. Some examples of this would be surveillance footage, a video where the missing person identifies themselves, etc.

IMO - The image of the tattoo was displayed on AMW, prior to the eyewitness account. That means anyone could've accurately identified it. I'm not saying the sighting wasn't real, or that it wasn't Amy - just why the FBI can't verify it.
 
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  • #894
The FBI can’t confirm an eyewitness sighting without some corroborating evidence. Some examples of this would be surveillance footage, a video where the missing person identifies themselves, etc.

IMO - The fact that an image of the tattoo was released on AMW, before the witness reported his sighting, makes the tattoo identification less explosive. I'm not saying the sighting wasn't real, or that it wasn't Amy - just why the FBI can't verify it.
Although he also accurately described the iconic watch, and I believe that wasn’t discussed/shown in the AMW program.
 
  • #895
Although he also accurately described the iconic watch, and I believe that wasn’t discussed/shown in the AMW program.

Not saying I don't believe you, but what is the source for this?

Did the FBI tell us that in the documentary? I may have missed it. But it sounds familiar.
 
  • #896
Although he also accurately described the iconic watch, and I believe that wasn’t discussed/shown in the AMW program.
This! I did a little digging today to refresh my memory. He accurately described her watch and that watch had been held back from the media descriptions at that time. It is significant.
 
  • #897
Not saying I don't believe you, but what is the source for this?

Did the FBI tell us that in the documentary? I may have missed it. But it sounds familiar.
It was mentioned in the documentary but I’ve seen it elsewhere over the years, although I can’t remember where.
 
  • #898
Before you can have a murder or kidnapping, you have to prove Amy ever left the room. To my knowledge, there is absolutely zero proof that she did. Some eyewitnesses said they saw something at some undetermined time and it could not be verified.

To include "Yellow" you have to prove he was not in his room after the time (3:30am?) he said he returned and before Amy was declared missing. To my knowledge, again, there is absolutely zero proof that he was other than the same unverified eyewitnesses.
Her brother stated he closed the balcony door. The balcony door was open when her father woke up. She had taken her top off because it was neatly laying over the end of furniture. So she did come back in to the cabin after she was seen on it at some time.
 
  • #899
There were three witnesses who saw Amy Bradley with Yellow - Lori Thompson (witness in the Netflix documentary), her friend Crystal Roberts, and Elizabeth. Elizabeth claims she was in the disco the morning Amy and Yellow entered. She testified to a federal grand jury in Virginia.

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Thanks for sharing this. I see this was posted on the amybradleyismissing website, and it’s definitely very jnteresting. I’m just wondering if there’s an original source or transcript confirming that Elizabeth actually testified before a federal grand jury — or any record beyond this forum-style write-up. I’m not saying it didn’t happen, I’d just like to verify it if possible. If anyone knows where this info was confirmed (court documents, news article, etc.), I’d very much like to take a look.
 
  • #900
It was mentioned in the documentary but I’ve seen it elsewhere over the years, although I can’t remember where.
Do you recall who stated this? Was it the FBI agents? That's a very intriguing detail. I'll have to take another look.
 
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