VA - Amy Bradley - missing from cruise ship, Curacao - 1998 #3

[amyynkaa]

Why would she leave her room at 6 AM to get on elevator with a member of the band?

well, shes on a cruise having the time of her life, mostly wanting to meet people.. she was described as the life of a party

 

[bestill]

This part about "didn't feel well" so she didn't go to bed sticks out to me. Personally, if it was 4am and I was feeling ill, going to bed and trying to sleep would be top of my list of things to do. I wouldn't try to stay up even longer. JMO

I don't know about that. She may have been seasick and felt like the fresh air was better than being closed up in a cramped space. I have wondered if she was throwing up over the deck and lost her balance and fell in. She may have leaned way over the railing.

I admit I am tossed about her being involved in an accident and fell into the ocean or something bad happened to her and she was taken off the ship. I fear her disappearance may never be solved.

 

[thebedbug]

Okay, but that's after the fact.

She's on the balcony with her brother. He went to bed. Her father saw her on the balcony. He heard a noise. She was gone.

How does she meet sex traffickers?

The idea is that "Yellow" (the guy in the band she was seen dancing with and talking to) is some agent for sex traffickers... and despite this seemingly never happening before, they decided to kidnap a white American woman off a cruise ship. So, uh.... he convinced her to go back to her room.... wait until almost 6 in the morning, just before the ship docked... then walk to meet him and go up an elevator into the lounge/club and be seen by nobody except 2 people whose stories and times can't be confirmed and then who knows... she was drugged, stuffed in a tuba case and snuck off the ship before anyone realized.... but then she went walking on the beach and with a couple of dudes and was spotted by a tourist... I think that's the gist.

 

[Chypre]

I think Amy went with Yellow up the elevator and after that I'm not sure he's really responsible for anything. Don't know the reason. Maybe she was just restless and left the cabin and he told her he would still be awake. Whatever motivation, she got stuck off the boat. At that point she is officially at high risk and desperate.
If this happened and she did not contact her family, I believe it is because she became resigned to her fate and attached to the scene. People can rationalize their family is better off without the person they are now, and that they might have purpose helping others or even profit from the situation.
My opinion today.

 

[RandyMcDonald]

The idea is that "Yellow" (the guy in the band she was seen dancing with and talking to) is some agent for sex traffickers... and despite this seemingly never happening before, they decided to kidnap a white American woman off a cruise ship. So, uh.... he convinced her to go back to her room.... wait until almost 6 in the morning, just before the ship docked... then walk to meet him up and go up an elevator into the lounge/club and be seen by nobody except 2 people whose stories and times can't be confirmed and then who knows... she was drugged, stuff in a tuba case and snuck off the ship before anyone realized.... but then she went walking on the beach and with a couple of dudes and was spotted by a tourist... I think that's the gist.

Do not forget that the beach she was seen on was in Barbados, a separate country on the other side of the Caribbean.

She was also seen in San Francisco watching street performers in 2003. This is apparently sufficiently credible that the Finding Any discussion forum considers it credible and suspect that one of the men there was also in Barbados two years later.

 

[otto]

well, shes on a cruise having the time of her life, mostly wanting to meet people.. she was described as the life of a party

Yes, she had attended "formal night" the day before. Then she and her family went to the pool party, drinking and dancing until 1 AM. Then her parents left. Her brother left around 3:40, and she followed him a few minutes later.

The party was over. She had not slept, had consumed 6 lite beer, and, according to her brother, she was not feeling well. That could not be related to drinking 6 lite beer over 12 hours. She didn't feel well for some other reason that has not been explained by her brother.

Why would she leave the room at 6 AM to meet with a band member. The party was over, and he was in bed at 7 AM.

 

[Chypre]

well, shes on a cruise having the time of her life, mostly wanting to meet people.. she was described as the life of a party

welcome

 

[otto]

The idea is that "Yellow" (the guy in the band she was seen dancing with and talking to) is some agent for sex traffickers... and despite this seemingly never happening before, they decided to kidnap a white American woman off a cruise ship. So, uh.... he convinced her to go back to her room.... wait until almost 6 in the morning, just before the ship docked... then walk to meet him and go up an elevator into the lounge/club and be seen by nobody except 2 people whose stories and times can't be confirmed and then who knows... she was drugged, stuffed in a tuba case and snuck off the ship before anyone realized.... but then she went walking on the beach and with a couple of dudes and was spotted by a tourist... I think that's the gist.

Why would she leave her room at 6 AM to meet with a sex-trafficker? Why did she want to meet with him?

 

[amyynkaa]

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welcome

thank you

 

[amyynkaa]

Why would she leave her room at 6 AM to meet with a sex-trafficker? Why did she want to meet with him?

i would say she pretty much trusted those people working there... plus im sure she didnt know he could be a sex-trafficker, was drunk and just wanted to get to know someone new maybe?

 

[otto]

i would say she pretty much trusted those people working there... plus im sure she didnt know he could be a sex-trafficker, was drunk and just wanted to get to know someone new maybe?

According to her brother, she was not drunk. She was sober, didn't feel well.

The party was over and everyone had gone to bed. Amy wasn't interested in men and wouldn't meet with someone who didn't interest her at 6 AM. No one does that.

 

[amyynkaa]

According to her brother, she was not drunk. She was sober, didn't feel well.

The party was over and everyone had gone to bed. Amy wasn't interested in men and wouldn't meet with someone who didn't interest her at 6 AM. No one does that.

yeah thats right, i am also thinking about the fact that she wasnt interested in guys in general

 

[amyynkaa]

but tbh for example my dad has a friend which is also interested in only girls and definitely would go out with him.. if she was feeling not well then i dont know, maybe she wanted to keep a promise she made before??

 

[cujenn81]

I just want to clarify that Bill Hefner (Navy vet) didn’t see Amy in a brothel. He referred to it as a hotel that was considered off limits by the Navy because it had a bad reputation.

Even the Amy Bradley Is Missing website clarifies that it wasn’t a brothel. It was The Stelaris Hotel.

Amy Lynn Bradley is still missing

Website dedicated to spreading accurate information regarding the 1998 disappearance of Amy Lynn BradleyStelaris Hotel, Curacao - Amy Lynn Bradley

amybradleyismissing.com

 

[Bluebear15]

I think Amy went with Yellow up the elevator and after that I'm not sure he's really responsible for anything. Don't know the reason. Maybe she was just restless and left the cabin and he told her he would still be awake. Whatever motivation, she got stuck off the boat. At that point she is officially at high risk and desperate.
If this happened and she did not contact her family, I believe it is because she became resigned to her fate and attached to the scene. People can rationalize their family is better off without the person they are now, and that they might have purpose helping others or even profit from the situation.
My opinion today.

I'm not convinced that sighting was of Amy. The witness said it was between 5am and 6am. If she leaves the room at 5.40 then anytime before that means it can't be her.
Jmo

 

[TizerisT]

Regarding why she should would walk off at that time and maybe get off the ship:
> I don't think there was any intention to meet Yellow. Having already left him at 3:30, the chances of arranging to meet him again a mere 2 or 3 hours later is remote. Who does that?
> If she stepped off the boat voluntarily, we can surely rule out going to a bar to continue partying. It would have been 6-7am and she already declined an offer of going to a bar once docked with another staff member "because they're creepy"
> Which would leave only stepping off for a brief period, so brief that she didnt consider it worth leaving a note. Perhaps to fetch beer or cigarettes. She didnt plan to be gone long.

If all those criteria are met, I can only really see a scenario where she was followed - or accosted - during her brief excursion, whether by staff member, a predator on the dock or maybe even a dodgy taxi driver. It happens.

 

[RandyMcDonald]

i would say she pretty much trusted those people working there... plus im sure she didnt know he could be a sex-trafficker, was drunk and just wanted to get to know someone new maybe?

Even if, for the sake of argument, Yellow was a sex traffickers, why would he go after a passenger on a cruise ship where he was working?

We know that even the suspicion that he was involved has ruined Yellow's career. Why would he knowingly risk everything by going after someone he was seen with? The grooming suggestion would not work, not only because we know that Amy was a lesbian but because Amy was not really at risk. She was unhappy with her family and had not wanted to come on the cruise, but she had lots of good things going for her and some positive changes awaiting her on her return.

 

[amyynkaa]

I'm not convinced that sighting was of Amy. The witness said it was between 5am and 6am. If she leaves the room at 5.40 then anytime before that means it can't be her.

how do you know she left at 5:40 i thought they could only see when she goes in the room not out

 

[RandyMcDonald]

Regarding why she should would walk off at that time and maybe get off the ship:
> I don't think there was any intention to meet Yellow. Having already left him at 3:30, the chances of arranging to meet him again a mere 2 or 3 hours later is remote. Who does that?
> If she stepped off the boat voluntarily, we can surely rule out going to a bar to continue partying. It would have been 6-7am and she already declined an offer of going to a bar once docked with another staff member "because they're creepy"
> Which would leave only stepping off for a brief period, so brief that she didnt consider it worth leaving a note. Perhaps to fetch beer or cigarettes. She didnt plan to be gone long.

If all those criteria are met, I can only really see a scenario where she was followed - or accosted - during her brief excursion, whether by staff member, a predator on the dock or maybe even a dodgy taxi driver. It happens.

Question: One thing I have heard is that Yellow had a roommate who would have been awoken if he had been out and about in that time frame. Is that correct?

 

[Bluebear15]

how do you know she left at 5:40 i thought they could only see when she goes in the room not out

Her father saw her leg on the balcony at around about that time.
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