Identified! VA - Annandale, WhtFem 245UFVA, ~60, 'NO CODE, DNR, No Penicillin', Dec'96

[KarlK]

I don't think these 2 ladies look at all alike. The lady found dead in the cemetery looks like she could possibly be Puerto Rican. I see no resemblance at all IMO

I don't see much of a resemblance myself but I don't see prominent Hispanic features in the cemetery lady either. Of course she could still be Puerto Rican but she could be Mrs Smith-next-door as well. All that we know is that she was likely middle-class and certainly not a transient.

 

[Babyslims]

http://www.nbc4.com/crime/14200719/detail.html sorry zoomed over to see if it was posted really quick

 

[KT Can]

What do you think? I see a strong resemblance between this lady and the drawing of Jane Doe.

Penny Lee Earlywine
Missing since May of 1989 from El Cajon, California
www.doenetwork.org
Case File 2471DFCA

Picture is of better quality on the website below:
http://www.elcajonpolice.org/OpenCases/MissingPersons/index.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/earlywine_penny.html

 

[Teresa Larson]

What do you think? I see a strong resemblance between this lady and the drawing of Jane Doe.

Penny Lee Earlywine
Missing since May of 1989 from El Cajon, California
www.doenetwork.org
Case File 2471DFCA

Picture is of better quality on the website below:
http://www.elcajonpolice.org/OpenCases/MissingPersons/index.html

[URL="http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/earlywine_penny.html"]http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/earlywine_penny.html[/URL]

I see no resemblance what so ever This lady is younger than JD IMO

 

[Meyahna]

I have a tiny post-mortem of her if anyone wants it. Just email me.

 

[Teresa Larson]

Bumping this up for this poor lady I hope some day we can find out who you were.

 

[Teresa Larson]

I am still bothered by who this lady could be and why she ended her life the way she did. Can anyone think of anything? I would think she is from the area but if she is then why hasn't somebody looked for her or have they?

 

[Julessleuther]

Yes, Theresa, I wonder too if she is from the area. I think this poor woman should have a proper burial with her name.

Three things:

1. Is there public transportation near the cemetary? If not, how did she get there? Taxi? Abandoned car left somewhere near?

2. I found out the juice is from Belguim, but is sold at many stores in the US. It is not cheap, so I am guessing she did have money. I will research more and see if we can find local VA stores that may carry it.

3. I would like to know what mausoleum she was found near. Even if it is an ethnic cemetary, she may have been bi-racial or been married to someone of another ethnic background. I think there is a reason she picked that cemetary, that place.

 

[Teresa Larson]

I agree Jules there has to be a reason why she chose that cemetery even if it was an African American one. She could of had a grandchild buried there. I know the juice was sold near there. I'd have to read back through the posts to see what store carried it. She could have walked there too.

 

[Julessleuther]

I found this about the cemetary:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GSvcid=26114&CRid=51693&pt=Pleasant%20Valley%20Memorial%20Park&


Pleasant Valley Memorial Park
Also known as: Pleasant Valley Jardines de Recuerdos

I did a spanish/english translation, and it is known as the Garden of Memories. Interesting about the spanish wording...


I also found on another site that the cemetary was established in 1968.

Also found out that one of the Virginia Tech victims was buried here!!
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...5apr25,0,6635596.story?coll=la-home-headlines


Ok--it appears that that there was another cemetary, the Guinea Rd cemetary that was a slavery cemetary. VA wanted to widen the road near that cemetary, archealogists got involved, and the bodies found were re-buried at the Pleasant Valley Memorial Park.
http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=600&sid=1353846


Some interesting burial info:

http://www.usgwarchives.org/va/vastones/frederick/pleasantvum/pleasantvum.htm

 

[Aphra]

Here's an interesting match:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1310dfnor.html

She disappeared from Norway a year before Jane Doe turned up in Dec. 1996. Maybe she found out she had some terminal illness and decided that she wanted to live out the rest of her life traveling and go out on her own terms. The ages match somewhat, as does the height (2 inches off, maybe she shrank as a result of illness)

ETA: English not being her first language would explain the weird wording in her suicide note.

 

[Julessleuther]

I just checked to see how far the closest metro station was from the cemetary, and it is 4.51 miles. She may have traveled by metro, and if so, could have come from anywhere, as there are even metro stops for the DC area airports and train station.

Also, the clothing brand that she was wearing Classiques Entier is a Nordstrom exclusive, not Saks(as noted on Doe Network). It is trademarked by Nordstrom. I wonder if she purchased the clothing just prior to her suicide.

 

[Julessleuther]

There are so many questions I have about this woman--has anyone ever contacted the Fairfax police about her?

What color were her eyes?

Her hair was curly--was it natural or a perm? Was her hair colored? Perhaps she colored it red on purpose to make it harder to find her identity?

Was there an autopsy done?

She sounds like she liked comedians, or was listening to those tapes because it reminded her of someone--maybe her husband or a child who also listened to comedians? All those tapes are comedies.

What brand was her tape player and headset?

Was there a brandy bottle found, or just brandy in her system? If it was just found in her system, how do they know it was brandy? Was brnady residue found in one of the juice bottles? If not, perhaps she was drinking somewhere nearby, like a bar or restaurant. What where the other contents of her stomach?

What kind of plastic bag was it--a ziploc kind of bag, or a grocery store bag?

Where there any fingerprints on the money? After Sept 11th, bank security has gotten tighter. Perhaps there are fingerprints on the money that lead back to a particular bank teller/bank?

The type print on the suicide note--was it an old fashioned typewriter, or was it a computer?

What brand of masking tape and can it be traced back to a store?

If she was carrying a Christmas tree, ornaments, a backpack, etc she must have needed some kind of transportation help to get there--did the police check taxi companies?

 

[Teresa Larson]

There are so many questions I have about this woman--has anyone ever contacted the Fairfax police about her?

What color were her eyes?

Her hair was curly--was it natural or a perm? Was her hair colored? Perhaps she colored it red on purpose to make it harder to find her identity?

Was there an autopsy done?

She sounds like she liked comedians, or was listening to those tapes because it reminded her of someone--maybe her husband or a child who also listened to comedians? All those tapes are comedies.

What brand was her tape player and headset?

Was there a brandy bottle found, or just brandy in her system? If it was just found in her system, how do they know it was brandy? Was brnady residue found in one of the juice bottles? If not, perhaps she was drinking somewhere nearby, like a bar or restaurant. What where the other contents of her stomach?

What kind of plastic bag was it--a ziploc kind of bag, or a grocery store bag?

Where there any fingerprints on the money? After Sept 11th, bank security has gotten tighter. Perhaps there are fingerprints on the money that lead back to a particular bank teller/bank?

The type print on the suicide note--was it an old fashioned typewriter, or was it a computer?

What brand of masking tape and can it be traced back to a store?

If she was carrying a Christmas tree, ornaments, a backpack, etc she must have needed some kind of transportation help to get there--did the police check taxi companies?

Her death happened before 9-11 I hope the LE took finger prints off of the bills. I thought the note was written? It was typed? If it was I doubt it would have been on a computer since it was in 1996. It's possible but not likely. The Christmas tree was a small one. I think all of the things she had fit into the book bag. I also do not think we would be able to find the cab company or driver that dropped her off there IF she took a cab since it was so long ago. I am more concerned with why she chose that cemetery because I think that is the key to identifying her. I also think this woman is Puerto Rican - Hispanic.

 

[txsvicki]

Does anyone know where the woman's remains were put? One hundred dollars doesn't seem like much for a cremation. One thing that struck me about the woman's belongings is that she could have brought the tapes on a fairly long busride from another town or had recently been discharged from a hospital since she had the tapes and a little XMAS tree. I wonder if there are any missing retired nurses? It almost seems as if the woman had a clinical idea of her suicide and knew how much medication to take, to mix it with alcohol, how to put the bag over her head to make sure her life ended, and even did it on plastic sheeting. She was dressed nicely so must have had a decent retirement or income at least up until awhile before her death. A nurse who had no family to take care of her could also have an adversion to ever growing old alone in a nursing home.

 

[Debbie Miller]

The last article out concerning this lady, the detective states they are in his office.

 

[Teresa Larson]

This lady defiantly knew what she was doing. She made sure that she would die. I think she had this well planned out. I also wonder if she had any family some place. The thing that bothers me the most about this case is what was so horrible in this poor woman's life that she wanted to be dead. Did her husband die or leave her? Maybe somebody she loved died? Her heart and spirit had to be broken if she didn't want to live any longer :-(

 

[Teresa Larson]

Bumping this up for the Annandale Va Jane Doe

 

[christine2448]

Ty...this is one that IMO media exposure would solve, national.

She was est in 60s or close IIRC, someone in this world has crossed her path.

I have posted her and featured her on UID myspace pages...nothing. Honestly, and sadly, haven't had the time to delve in....but would like to.

 

[Teresa Larson]

Ty...this is one that IMO media exposure would solve, national.

She was est in 60s or close IIRC, someone in this world has crossed her path.

I have posted her and featured her on UID myspace pages...nothing. Honestly, and sadly, haven't had the time to delve in....but would like to.

I agree Christine this one is solvable. We need more national coverage/pictures put out there for the public to see. I wouldn't hate to bet there was a screw up - mistake made in this case too.