Identified! VA - Annandale, WhtFem 245UFVA, ~60, 'NO CODE, DNR, No Penicillin', Dec'96

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Understood.
I think it might be tied to the University. I'm still researching that angle.
I feel strongly it would be a mistake to dismiss the Belgium connection until we figure these glasses out. Combine that with the "coincidence" of the juice being manufactured in Belgium....well....that's enough for me to dig further. I'll see if I can come up with anything.
I'll give this gal credit - she sure covered her tracks!

I don't think we should dismiss much of anything yet, just that we shouldn't only focus on Belgium. I still feel she is not from the US. Will be interested to see what you find!
 
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This was an article in 1993 about Dole buying Looza

"Looza has production facilities in Belgium and France, and markets juices and nectars throughout Europe under the Looza and Fruvita brands. Juice Bowl, a Florida-based affiliate of Looza, markets single-serving juices sold in cans and bottles"

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-11-09/business/fi-54983_1_dole-buy-juices

Classito
 
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That prayer is the thing that makes me still think of Connie. It's the kind of thing Connie would have written.


I know. I was never quite able to let Connie go.


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We haven't confirmed that the glasses are actually from Belgium.

Edited to add details: The CSL appears to be a research center that studies optics in regards to space and engineering, not eyeglasses. It's still unclear how Ellen determined that, because none of us have been able to find glasses from CSL. Astridxx emailed them to ask but I don't think she has heard back yet.


They were stamped CSL, Ellen tracked them to the uni but it has never been confirmed the uni was the manufacturer. I have yet to hear from the uni about it. I'll try again Monday.



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Looza is owned by Frito Lay. It was filed for branded trademark 4/2/96. The Looza Co was established many years prior in Belgium, though, but has been in the USA for literally years.

http://www.trademarkia.com/looza-75083097.html

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Classification Information
International Class Code(s): 032
US Class Code(s): 045, 046, 048
Primary Class: Beers; mineral and aerated waters and other nonalcoholic drinks; fruit drinks and fruit juices; syrups and other preparations for making beverages.
Class(es) Status: Active
First Use Anywhere: 9/1/1984
First Use In Commerce: 9/1/1984

This was an article in 1993 about Dole buying Looza

"Looza has production facilities in Belgium and France, and markets juices and nectars throughout Europe under the Looza and Fruvita brands. Juice Bowl, a Florida-based affiliate of Looza, markets single-serving juices sold in cans and bottles"

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-11-09/business/fi-54983_1_dole-buy-juices

Classito

Right, but Frito Lay / Pepsi Co own Dole.
 
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Forgive me if this as already been discussed but was the poem found to be a published one or just something she made up? Reminds me of the prayer "now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep, and should I die before I wake I pray the Lord my soul to take".

I'm trying to remember when this was brought up in the thread. I forget what was found. Still trying to read back on everything here.
 
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I think the REI backpack is a clue, b/c REI was not spread across the US as much in 1996.

http://rei.jobs/story/

There was a store in a nearby outlet mall that sold that backpack if I remember correctly. I remember this from when I was on this thread before. I'll look back.

There was also a Nordstrom Rack that sold that line of clothes in that mall. I don't know why Saks is still listed on her NAMUS profile but that line "Classiques Entier" was exclusive to Nordstrom at the time. Nordstrom Rack is the outlet of Nordstrom and would have sold past season, slightly damaged or irregular, or over stock from the more affluent Nordstrom store.
 
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We haven't confirmed that the glasses are actually from Belgium.

Edited to add details: The CSL appears to be a research center that studies optics in regards to space and engineering, not eyeglasses. It's still unclear how Ellen determined that, because none of us have been able to find glasses from CSL. Astridxx emailed them to ask but I don't think she has heard back yet.

I'm confused. As far as I remember, yes they do have something to do with corrective sight. Hold on a sec. I'll search it out... Brb.

Eta - Found it!

http://www.csl.ulg.ac.be/jcms/c_7533/en/heritage

MIOL

(2007 – 2009) Walloon Region
In close collaboration with the industry CSL has designed a trifocal intra-ocular lens, an intra-ocular lens replaces the human crystalline lens in case of cataract surgery.
On the market one can find some bi-focal intra-ocular lenses, one focus for far vision (infinity) and one focus for close vision (reading at 33 cm), why a trifocal lens ? Because a lot of people having this kind of lens are not satisfied in case of intermediate vision (1 or 2 meters). The lens is a refractive-diffractive lens, consisting in the addition of kinoform diffractive profiles on a face of a refractive lens. This lens possess three distinct foci, one for far vision (refractive focus), one for close vision (a first diffractive focus) and one for intermediate vision (a second diffractive focus). The novelty of the design is that, due to the shape of the diffractive profiles, one can control the amount of light in the different foci. Moreover, due to shape of the diffractive profile, the amount of light in the different foci depends on the used area of the lens. The result of this study is being patented by the industrial customer. CSL is subcontractor of PHYSIOL.
 
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Of all her belongings the minnie mouse bum bag is the most out of place to me. I am convinced there is some connection to a child.

This is what got me, too. It looks like a child's fanny pack doesn't it? Plus the safety pins & what is that whitish part? I completely forget. Is it tape?
 
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I still think she could be from outside the US, but I'm basing that on nothing except that she has been so difficult to identify. If we discount the alleged glasses manufacturer (and I'm starting to think we should), there is nothing to connect her to Belgium.

What do you think about maybe a Russian or Romanian decent if not from Belgium? I ask this bc in an area near Annandale there is/was a fair amount of Russian population. I think I read somewhere it was across the Potomac somewhere? Could she have come from another country and settled there by chance. I mean not in the Annandale community per se but rather across the Potomac?
 
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I'm trying to remember when this was brought up in the thread. I forget what was found. Still trying to read back on everything here.


I brought up. I don't know if I was first. I googled the phrases and nothing came up on google.
I thought maybe it was a song lyric from Connie Converse when we thought it was her.

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This is what got me, too. It looks like a child's fanny pack doesn't it? Plus the safety pins & what is that whitish part? I completely forget. Is it tape?

Yes they said tape & safety pins. I've searched images for that particular one and can find nothing! Also searched for the jade ring and although there are similar ones, not exactly the same. Seems to be 4 jade stones in a cross pattern. Also is 14k gold the norm in the US? In the UK it would be 9k or 18k gold.
 
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This is what got me, too. It looks like a child's fanny pack doesn't it? Plus the safety pins & what is that whitish part? I completely forget. Is it tape?

It definitely looks child sized and I just can't see an older lady with no young children in her life buying a pink minnie mouse bum bag or fanny pack as you Americans say, lol! It looks too small for to have actually worn it, so was it in her backpack?
 
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More questions - have you had enough yet? :floorlaugh: is Nordstrom and guess popular in Canada or outside the US. I know they are not in UK. I have never heard of Nordstrom and guess wouldn't be a popular brand at all here although I have heard of it.
 
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I'm confused. As far as I remember, yes they do have something to do with corrective sight. Hold on a sec. I'll search it out... Brb.

Eta - Found it!

http://www.csl.ulg.ac.be/jcms/c_7533/en/heritage

Right. I found that too, but that's an intraocular lens (like an implant or contact lens), not eyeglasses. You would think perhaps they might have made trifocal eyeglass lenses back in the day, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of this (yet).
 
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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2827dfqc.html this lady is well below the age range and hair colour is out but she went missing in 96, she has French & Canadian nationality, speaks Arabic, English, French, Italian and Spanish (Belgium would be French). There is not a lot of information out there on her though! I just wondered if she could have been working as a translator or private Secretary for a diplomat for example?
 
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Just as an aside from a long-term spectacle wearer, the frames usually only have the frame name and serial number printed inside the arms. For example I bought my glasses in boots opticians but my glasses have laser plus 4040 (the frame name) and a serial number printed on the inside of the arms. Nowhere does it say either boots (where I bought them) or the manufacturers name. Hope that makes sense!
 
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