VA - Boy, 6, in custody after shooting teacher, Newport News, Jan 2023 *mom charged* #3

  • #701
Attendance at a civil trial is not really voluntary. Not sure where that comes from. If she had not attended, the court likely would just default her out.
Not sure what the "team loyalty" issue is about. I don't care if Ebony Parker is "emotionally beat down." She deserves it.
I guess I don't understand why you are so against this teacher getting this judgment against a school administrator that clearly was willing to collect a 6 figure paycheck but not willing to lift a finger to do anything, even when she knew a six year old was walking the halls with a gun.

Yes, I acknowledged that failure to appear for a civil trial results in a default judgement. So.... if one is willing to accept a default judgement, attendance at a civil trial seems voluntary to me.

That aside, I was posting from Ebony's point of view in an academic sense. I was not advocating for her. Not wanting her to get a judgement? I am also unsure where that accusation comes from. Posting academic information that it can be difficult to actually collect a judgement does not mean that I am taking Ebony's side.

For sample, I also posted the following about actually collecting a meaningful settlement:

Combine the likely civil win against Parker with any criminal win once she is whisked from the local "Ed Shed" into a criminal court. Then...... make a new, but realistic presentation for increased cash from the Board.
 
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  • #702
Is it clear that Zwerner knew of the gun before? Lots of others in the school did for sure. I find the CNN article to not be a very fair piece of reporting. I still find it amazing from both a legal and a moral standpoint that all these people in the school knew the boy had or might have a gun, no one did anything, everyone just points the finger at everyone else, and the school district gets dismissed on sovereign immunity.
Something similar happened with the school shooting case in Oxford, MI four years ago this month. Shooter and his parents were arrested, charged, tried, found guilty, imprisoned, but no school officials have ever been held accountable.

 
  • #703
Something similar happened with the school shooting case in Oxford, MI four years ago this month. Shooter and his parents were arrested, charged, tried, found guilty, imprisoned, but no school officials have ever been held accountable.


That is crazy.

And Parker's response, of waiting for the parent to arrive was inappropriate. If there was any sort of threat by a student, they go into a room, with an administrator, and wait for parents or police.

I have seen elementary students taken out in handcuffs. To police cars, and the parents go pick up the kids at the processing center. Or deal with what is going on after law enforcement takes over.

It just seems to me that either Parker did not know her job, or did not do her job.
 
  • #704
That is crazy.

And Parker's response, of waiting for the parent to arrive was inappropriate. If there was any sort of threat by a student, they go into a room, with an administrator, and wait for parents or police.

I have seen elementary students taken out in handcuffs. To police cars, and the parents go pick up the kids at the processing center. Or deal with what is going on after law enforcement takes over.

It just seems to me that either Parker did not know her job, or did not do her job.
I don’t think she really cared. MOO
 
  • #705
Which is probably why I don't teach school any longer. Back in my day, we could look in a student's backpack. No one had to get "permission" or ask for an administrator to do it, or for administrator to pass the buck, waiting for the parents to come in.

Of course, when I taught school, the first thing we taught was which bathroom to use. I would probably be fired for being so "subversive" now.

I will tell you this much, kids are far more violent now. I don't even know these games they play, "Roblox" and "Call of Duty". They spend hours at these video games. Shooting people. That is scary.

I don't think video games from 2003 (22 years old) and 2006 (19 years old and which has nothing to do with guns or killing people at all) are the main reason that children would be more violent in 2025 (I don't think that base premise is true or that anything you said makes sense really, but that was the part that was the most obviously wrong). The world would be a much better place if people knew about the things they were talking about.
 
  • #706
The Civil Verdict is in.....

10 million dollars for the plaintiff. In theory, she is a millionaire several times over. In actuality, the theory may not reflect reality at all- or may reflect a partial reality.

Summary (well, to my understanding):

After the School Board formally asserted Sovereign Immunity and walked out, the only listed defendant is the school principal.

Forum members have raised the possibility of an insurance policy maintained by the School board serving as the deep pockets. Yet, that possibility has led to questions as to what types of damages the policy would cover and what amount the coverage is.

Not really a millionaire. She must pay all her medical expenses, the attorneys get 30% PLUS all cost. If Parker is convicted, which is highly likely, Abby gets nothing from the insurance. I doubt Parkers got anything to pay with. Moo
 
  • #707
Not really a millionaire. She must pay all her medical expenses, the attorneys get 30% PLUS all cost. If Parker is convicted, which is highly likely, Abby gets nothing from the insurance. I doubt Parkers got anything to pay with. Moo
She will have a massive Judgment that is likely mostly uncollectable. She make life rough for Parker though.
It is still unclear what the shared risk plan program looks like and what they will be required to pay.
I am still very very disappointed in the school board/district and how they handled this.
 
  • #708
She will have a massive Judgment that is likely mostly uncollectable. She make life rough for Parker though.
It is still unclear what the shared risk plan program looks like and what they will be required to pay.
I am still very very disappointed in the school board/district and how they handled this.

Well. It sounds like they cut ties with Parker pretty quickly. The judgement can be attached to her pension, so there is that, at least.
 
  • #709
Well. It sounds like they cut ties with Parker pretty quickly. The judgement can be attached to her pension, so there is that, at least.
The resignation timing probably doesn't mean much in regards to collection of an insurance plan. By defending the case, the plan is acknowledging that it was in place at the time of the incident at least. Lots to play out there.
Pensions can't be garnished directly in general. Once they are deposited, different states handle those funds in various ways.
 
  • #710
I am still very very disappointed in the school board/district and how they handled this.
I don’t know who to be disappointed with. There are, however two suspects:

A. As you said, a School Board refusing to accept ultimate responsibility and offer fair compensation.

B. An attorney convinced that he found the jack pot case of a life time, ignored warnings of a Sovereign walk out and continued to demand an unsustainable sum.
 
  • #711
Abby Zwerner verdict

 

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