Identified! VA - Carroll Co., WhtMale, 4-7, UP99035, Winnie The Pooh Blanket, Sep'22 *Logan Nathaniel Bowman*

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Maybe bc they're already circling in on a particular identity and want to avoid speculation/finger-pointing by specifying if its a boy or a girl.
Yeah, don’t want people coming after a family possibly. Still, weird.
 
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My gut still says this is Logan. The PMI would be off 15 years or so though.

Ruled out :oops:
 
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I wonder if Summer Wells could be a possibility:

Only if their PMI estimate is WAAY off. It's listed as 5 years, and the remains for Winnie Doe are skeletal. I'm not familiar with Summer's case, but it looks like she's only been missing a couple of years, and at the time Winnie was found, had only been missing for just over one.
 
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Only if their PMI estimate is WAAY off. It's listed as 5 years, and the remains for Winnie Doe are skeletal. I'm not familiar with Summer's case, but it looks like she's only been missing a couple of years, and at the time Winnie was found, had only been missing for just over one.
Winnie was completely skeletonized. They could have died 2, 10, 20, 30 years prior to the discovery. But if the PMI is accurate on Winnie Doe, then Summer would be ruled out.


Edit: How did they get a good PMI on Winnie Doe? I usually see “months” or “years” as a PMI for skeletal remains. I’m guessing they could have died less than 5 years prior, especially if their remains were exposed to the elements.
 
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Winnie was completely skeletonized. They could have died 2, 10, 20, 30 years prior to the discovery. But if the PMI is accurate on Winnie Doe, then Summer would be ruled out.


Edit: How did they get a good PMI on Winnie Doe? I usually see “months” or “years” as a PMI for skeletal remains. I’m guessing they could have died less than 5 years prior, especially if their remains were exposed to the elements.
Could be entomology. Bugs can give a pretty accurate timeline. But it could just be decomposition. There could also have been dateable items with the remains.
 
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No new ruleouts, sex still unknown
 
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Winnie the Pooh blanket found with child

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
 
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Yeah this is what I thought. It’s a Beacon blanket, and they closed over 20 years ago (Beacon Blankets: The Mill - Swannanoa Valley Museum & History Center. That particular “Pooh” logo was used from 1995-2000 (Winnie the Pooh). Makes me really curious to know what the PMI was based on and I hope that the rule outs weren’t based solely on timeline.
 
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Yeah this is what I thought. It’s a Beacon blanket, and they closed over 20 years ago (Beacon Blankets: The Mill - Swannanoa Valley Museum & History Center. That particular “Pooh” logo was used from 1995-2000 (Winnie the Pooh). Makes me really curious to know what the PMI was based on and I hope that the rule outs weren’t based solely on timeline.
Logan disappeared in 2003, a year after Beacon Blankets shut down. i really hope that they are confident that hes not a match.

If the age estimation and PMI estimation is correct this child wouldve been born between 2010 and 2013, which would make that blanket AT LEAST 7 years older than them.

I still think this may be Logan
 
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Logan disappeared in 2003, a year after Beacon Blankets shut down. i really hope that they are confident that hes not a match.

If the age estimation and PMI estimation is correct this child wouldve been born between 2010 and 2013, which would make that blanket AT LEAST 7 years older than them.

I still think this may be Logan
Exactly. It’s totally possible if this was a more recent death that the blanket originally belonged to the child’s older sibling, was a hand me down from another family, or was a thrift store find, but Logan being born in 1997 would mean this blanket would have probably been on shelves all the way from his baby shower through his first birthday and beyond. I am assuming that there had to have been a very good reason he was ruled out because all of the publicly available information seems to be fitting for his case so far.
 
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This is indeed a NCMEC case now! According to namus the case number is 1470148.

Im not seeing the case on their website yet
 
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Im hoping he will be added as a john doe soon
Sorry, i have a gut feeling this is a male child, we do not know that yet.
 
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According to this article,

the Carroll County Investigators are awaiting on additional DNA testing being conducted by the Virginia Department of Forensic Science.


They also spoke with Logans father. These remains were found "not far" from where Logan disappeared from

I punched the locations listed in the article

I may be misinterpreting the article, but it sounds like these remains were found within a few miles away

I cant imagine this isnt Logan
 
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I punched the locations listed in the article

I may be misinterpreting the article, but it sounds like these remains were found within a few miles away

I cant imagine this isnt Logan
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