VA VA - Codi Bigsby, 4, last seen at dad's home, Cory Bigsby (dad) named as POI, Hampton, 31 Jan 2022

[cvaldez1975]

It wasn't a VA loan. Per an earlier article Hampton Housing Authority in conjunction with Virginia Housing Authority. Hampton holds the deed of trust.

Hampton Housing Authority provides a 100% grant for the closing cost and down payment. (Free money) Then Virginia Housing Authority provides the mortage.

It's one of many low income programs for home ownership.

Hampton Roads Loan Fund Partnership

Virginia Housing

i wish cali had those.

 

[Simply Southern]

i wish cali had those.

@cvaldez1975
Good news, they do. Its the same program. Its all under HUD the federal housing program, search "home ownership". My hubby worked for HUD in low income housing. Good luck

Homeownership Assistance: California

• California Housing Finance Agency (CalHFA) - homebuyer programs, including downpayment and closing cost assistance, and foreclosure prevention resources.

 

[GuyfromCanada]

The police continue to ask the public’s help in locating the toddler.

“We are interested in any video that anyone might have that something they believed may be related,” the police chief said. “We are not convinced that it happened exactly when we heard about it.”

Father of Missing 4-Year-Old Arrested on Child Neglect; Confessed to Leaving His Son Alone, Court Documents - Silver Screen Beat

 

[Knox]

@cvaldez1975
Good news, they do. Its the same program. Its all under HUD the federal housing program, search "home ownership". My hubby worked for HUD in low income housing. Good luck

Homeownership Assistance: California

• California Housing Finance Agency (CalHFA) - homebuyer programs, including downpayment and closing cost assistance, and foreclosure prevention resources.

There are also USDA loans (rural areas) - once again, we learned about that in the Orrin & Orson West case. Neither parent worked, their only real income was from government aid. Single Family Housing Direct Home Loans in California

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I feel like there are 2 options

A. Police lied and held him against his will, denied him access to the attorney he requested and none of this was recorded by any video.

B. Cory was there voluntarily, until he talked to his attorney and found out no one is buying his story about what happened to Codi.

for now, I’ll believe option B

BBM
Bingo! This is what I believe is most likely. Cory was a person of authority, in the military and is smart. He probably didn't realize that he was a POI and thought he was being cooperative and providing info and working with them as a team to find his son. Think about this...he hasn't talked to anyone on the outside until this Lawyer shows up. He has no idea what info they have gathered, where all they are searching and what is being said. Lawyer says hey dummy they think you did something to Codi and you better stop talking. And out comes this story. I just hope LE has everything on tape. Especially him being read his rights. MOO

I'm really really curious as to what exactly his position of authority was.

 

[LauraAnne]

BBM
Bingo! This is what I believe is most likely. Cory was a person of authority, in the military and is smart. He probably didn't realize that he was a POI and thought he was being cooperative and providing info and working with them as a team to find his son. Think about this...he hasn't talked to anyone on the outside until this Lawyer shows up. He has no idea what info they have gathered, where all they are searching and what is being said. Lawyer says hey dummy they think you did something to Codi and you better stop talking. And out comes this story. I just hope LE has everything on tape. Especially him being read his rights. MOO

I'm really really curious as to what exactly his position of authority was.

To the point of spending 3 nights there? Voluntarily? I've never ever heard of anyone doing that. What were his accommodations, I wonder. Was he sleeping in a jail cell? It's hard to believe someone felt like a team player, in a jail cell. Are there any other accommodations, within a police interrogation, for overnight guests 3 nights in a row - who voluntarily stay?

I think we'll know a lot more soon, but this just sounds . . . concerning.

And I know people on social media are saying "who cares what happened to Cory, where's the baby"? but this is still a concern.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I think its is pretty standard when very young children go missing. When very young kids and/or autistic minors go missing, they often search any water nearby and use search dogs. JMO

There's a difference between search dogs and cadaver dogs.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

BBM
Bingo! This is what I believe is most likely. Cory was a person of authority, in the military and is smart. He probably didn't realize that he was a POI and thought he was being cooperative and providing info and working with them as a team to find his son. Think about this...he hasn't talked to anyone on the outside until this Lawyer shows up. He has no idea what info they have gathered, where all they are searching and what is being said. Lawyer says hey dummy they think you did something to Codi and you better stop talking. And out comes this story. I just hope LE has everything on tape. Especially him being read his rights. MOO

I'm really really curious as to what exactly his position of authority was.

On second thought. Would they need read him his rights if he was there voluntarily and not being held for questioning or under arrest?

 

[LauraAnne]

There's a difference between search dogs and cadaver dogs.

I think LE would be remiss, in a case like this, not to bring in cadaver dogs after a search didn't reveal the child. They were searches of dumpsters, which certainly is an indication of looking for remains and not a live child.

 

[LauraAnne]

On second thought. Would they need read him his rights if he was there voluntarily and not being held for questioning or under arrest?

I think you might have hit on something. It may well be he WASN'T read his rights, and that's why the chief kept saying he's a smart man, he's well aware of his rights.

I don't think the chief ever said "yes, we read him his rights". Rather, he knows his rights.

Hmmmmmmm.

The more I think about this, your point is really key. If he came in as a "witness", and LE kept insisting he was there voluntarily, he didn't have to be read rights. The way you treat a voluntary witness is different from the way you treat someone who is arrested. It's only with an arrest that rights are read, and strictly adhered to.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

To the point of spending 3 nights there? Voluntarily? I've never ever heard of anyone doing that. What were his accommodations, I wonder. Was he sleeping in a jail cell? It's hard to believe someone felt like a team player, in a jail cell. Are there any other accommodations, within a police interrogation, for overnight guests 3 nights in a row - who voluntarily stay?

I think we'll know a lot more soon, but this just sounds . . . concerning.

And I know people on social media are saying "who cares what happened to Cory, where's the baby"? but this is still a concern.

All along they said he's cooperating. I don't think they were detaining him in any way, were they? What if his position of authority was one that involved investigative work and he thought he was helping with the investigative part. They told him they were working around the clock (which I've heard them say) and he wanted to stay and help.

Just a possibility and just MOO. I think something will come out on that soon.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I think LE would be remiss, in a case like this, not to bring in cadaver dogs after a search didn't reveal the child. They were searches of dumpsters, which certainly is an indication of looking for remains and not a live child.

I agree. I'm just saying that by bringing in cadaver dogs they are obviously looking for a cadaver. There are scent dogs that can track a scent but those are different from cadaver dogs.

 

[LauraAnne]

I agree. I'm just saying that by bringing in cadaver dogs they are obviously looking for a cadaver. There are scent dogs that can track a scent but those are different from cadaver dogs.

Yes, right. They were likely looking for remains, or evidence of remains. Or evidence that remains had once been there.

Because the fact is, and all of us know this, when a report comes in like this that a small child was last seen at 2 a.m. and now is suddenly gone from the house, it's most often a case where the parents are lying and have harmed the child.

So yes, sadly, it would be wise to investigate that possibility.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I think you might have hit on something. It may well be he WASN'T read his rights, and that's why the chief kept saying he's a smart man, he's well aware of his rights.

I don't think the chief ever said "yes, we read him his rights". Rather, he knows his rights.

Hmmmmmmm.

The more I think about this, your point is really key. If he came in as a "witness", and LE kept insisting he was there voluntarily, he didn't have to be read rights. The way you treat a voluntary witness is different from the way you treat someone who is arrested. It's only with an arrest that rights are read, and strictly adhered to.

If he's there voluntarily, why would they read him his rights?

 

[LauraAnne]

If he's there voluntarily, why would they read him his rights?

I'm just still musing, and thinking. If they DON'T read him his rights, they can pretend he was there voluntarily. Once they've read him his rights, it's clear he's not free to leave and also the person now knows their rights. And can use them.

And there are protections that come into place once someone is detained and read their rights.

My guess is, there will be no video of them reading him his rights, because if so, he's officially not free to go.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

We're kind of going back and forth. If they DON'T read him his rights, they can pretend he was there voluntarily. Once they've read him his rights, it's clear he's not free to leave and also the person now knows their rights. And can use them.

And there are protections that come into place once someone is detained and read their rights.

And if he IS there voluntarily (and they aren't pretending). They aren't required to read him his rights, correct? So, what is the truth? Were they detaining him or was he there voluntarily? I would hope if he was there voluntarily, they have some proof of that.

 

[LauraAnne]

And if he IS there voluntarily (and they aren't pretending). They aren't required to read him his rights, correct? So, what is the truth? Were they detaining him or was he there voluntarily? I would hope if he was there voluntarily, they have some proof of that.

If he's there as a voluntary witness, they don't have to read any rights.

It would just be VERY odd for a voluntary witness to offer to stay there overnight for 3 nights without even going home for a shower.

BUT, if they DO read him his rights, then he's not free to go home and they're on the clock to charge him with something or release him.

It's a dance.

 

[MissUnderstood]

Now that dad has an attorney, and all we have really heard is how dad has been hard done by, when will we hear any pleas of help to find his missing son!

 

[Lillymac]

If he's there voluntarily, why would they read him his rights?

The chief just said he was aware of his rights didn't he? And I believe that was when asked about denying the attorneys request to see him. If I go in as a witness, I wouldn't expect to be read my rights. Only if arrested. This whole scenario screwed up. Seems everyone is in CYA mode. I hope there is lots of video. JMO

 

[LauraAnne]

The chief just said he was aware of his rights didn't he? And I believe that was when asked about denying the attorneys request to see him. If I go in as a witness, I wouldn't expect to be read my rights. Only if arrested. This whole scenario screwed up. Seems everyone is in CYA mode. I hope there is lots of video. JMO

Yes. The chief said Bigsby is a smart man and would be well aware of his rights.

It does seem like a chess game.