VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #4

[tapu]

I'm german i've been here for a long time and we take english since 5th grade but it's still harder to listen to another language than reading it just as it's easier for me to write than to speak...I guess i can write without an accent,lol

Scusi, fraulein!

 

[dangrsmind]

I didn't know about the presentation. Thanks for telling me about it. I might just have to go and "school" him on what he thinks he knows and I'll tell them you guys sent me! I will also mention that dangrsmind and Paximus knows more than he does.....AND that he needs to take a class from you guys on interpretations.

My classes are very expensive.

 

[dangrsmind]

this is the guy that was arrested in Georgia on a violent offense just a few days after the murders, correct??

IF (a big if) there was an accomplice, I think it would be him.

It was a stabbing. FWIW.

I think PiXy may be able to elaborate.

 

[gxm]

Looks like a patch with too much hair gel or mousse or something perhaps. Where that kid learned to do his hair is beyond me, thats the worst haircut I have ever seen, he needs to slick that **** back not forward, and look like a real man lol.

It's made me wonder if he is going prematurely bald. It's like the forward version of a comb over.

 

[ziggy]

Hey Heroine - I hope you do go! Gotta Represent with Peacegurl.

I have such a morbid curiosity, I would be driving by to see if anything was up, or taking photos of the backyard from that field or talking to the neighbors about what they saw of Sam during that time or if they saw Mark arrive that day. Mark did arrive in the afternoon-ish, so you'd think someone would have seen him.

Did the neighbors see the police activity? Did they see Mel's Dad lingering for hours?

My curious mind is working on what's up in Farmville.

Why were lights on in the Kelly home at night I wonder?

I imagine it is still a crime scene or has it been cleared?

How do the utilities get paid when you're gone?

Will that house ever sell?

That 18 year old girlfriend of Emma's, Keri Frank - she probably knows a lot more I'd think, about what Emma actually thought of Sam once she met him IRL. She's the one with the glasses who was in the videos with Emma on youtube when they were baked and also driving in the car. She claims to also be "bi" (saw a comment on a myspace).

http://www.myspace.com/twittysyko

http://www.myspace.com/carriefrank

In her Sicktanick shirt during a photoshoot...

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/52/l_1c88e554141a4d6e9f9dbe543d6ebda9

She was also present at Emma's funeral.

piXy - know anything about her?

 

[Heroine]

Hey Heroine - I hope you do go! Gotta Represent with Peacegurl.

I have such a morbid curiosity, I would be driving by to see if anything was up, or taking photos of the backyard from that field or talking to the neighbors about what they saw of Sam during that time or if they saw Mark arrive that day. Mark did arrive in the afternoon-ish, so you'd think someone would have seen him.

Did the neighbors see the police activity? Did they see Mel's Dad lingering for hours?

My curious mind is working on what's up in Farmville.

Why were lights on in the Kelly home at night I wonder?

I imagine it is still a crime scene or has it been cleared?

How do the utilities get paid when you're gone?

Will that house ever sell?

That 18 year old girlfriend of Emma's, Keri Frank - she probably knows a lot more I'd think, about what Emma actually thought of Sam once she met him IRL. She's the one with the glasses who was in the videos with Emma on youtube when they were baked and also driving in the car. She claims to also be "bi" (saw a comment on a myspace).

http://www.myspace.com/twittysyko

http://www.myspace.com/carriefrank

In her Sicktanick shirt during a photoshoot...

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/52/l_1c88e554141a4d6e9f9dbe543d6ebda9

She was also present at Emma's funeral.

piXy - know anything about her?

You know, her profile really has me thinking now. It says she's from Rice VA. Well poorhouse road goes into Rice VA.:waitasec:
Might be nothing, but it is a coincidence, wouldn't you say?

 

[Heroine]

My classes are very expensive.

Even if I were to take them?...haha! I think he should pay you a lot for your expertise. He seems to know very little. Just my opinion of course.

 

[tapu]

Coincidence...? Or Synchronicity?


(DM, I think I hear your mother calling.)

 

[ziggy]

Well that caused me to head straight to Google Maps again! By the map it doesn't look like it goes directly to Rice, but I mapped directions to Poorhouse Road from the Kelly home and then noticed where the Richmond airport was.

Then I thought, maybe Sam was taking a detour on the way to Richmond to hide out and sleep in the car. He was looking for a secluded road, maybe a road that led out to a hidden area, where he could sleep before driving to the airport the next day. He had the pills to get some zzzzzs and said he hadn't slept for days so maybe. His flight wasn't for another day or so right? And he knew heat was coming because of Mark's arrival and Mel's presistent Mom.

 

[Heroine]

Well that caused me to head straight to Google Maps again! By the map it doesn't look like it goes directly to Rice, but I mapped directions to Poorhouse Road from the Kelly home and then noticed where the Richmond airport was.

Then I thought, maybe Sam was taking a detour on the way to Richmond to hide out and sleep in the car. He was looking for a secluded road, maybe a road that led out to a hidden area, where he could sleep before driving to the airport the next day. He had the pills to get some zzzzzs and said he hadn't slept for days so maybe. His flight wasn't for another day or so right? And he knew heat was coming because of Mark's arrival and Mel's presistent Mom.

I just know when I used google and was going up and down that road it goes into rice a couple times according to google, so I'm assuming if you go all the way to the end and turn one way or another it will take you to rice at some point. I live about 15 to 20 minutes from Rice so I know its in that area but not sure about that road. I need to go check it out for sure.
It probably means nothing though, just my over analytical a**!
Oh and about the airport, he was definitely going in the opposite direction. I go that way pretty often, because Farmvilles way bigger than where I live and has tons more to do and there's no way to misinterpret those road signs.

 

[Heroine]

Coincidence...? Or Synchronicity?


(DM, I think I hear your mother calling.)

HAHA! Yeah probably the latter of the 2.

 

[dangrsmind]

Even if I were to take them?...haha! I think he should pay you a lot for your expertise. He seems to know very little. Just my opinion of course.

I'm completely mercenary these days. So if he has the cash, I'll teach him what I know.

He might even learn something about himself

 

[dangrsmind]

You know, her profile really has me thinking now. It says she's from Rice VA. Well poorhouse road goes into Rice VA.:waitasec:
Might be nothing, but it is a coincidence, wouldn't you say?

Rice is actually on the way to the airport. He didn't go that way, he turned off the 460 onto Poorhouse Road.

There is a state forest that is out there, some lakes, and a conference center but really not a whole lot else at least from what one can see via Google Maps and Google Earth.

Edited to add map link: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...703,-78.350201&spn=0.088127,0.181789&t=h&z=13

 

[dangrsmind]

Actually there is an interesting difference in location depending on whether it is 1400 poorhouse road in Farmville or Rice:

1400 poorhouse road farmville va: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...888,-78.356642&spn=0.088127,0.181789&t=h&z=13

1400 poorhouse road rice va: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou....256703,-78.350201&spn=0.088127,0.181789&z=13

I'm not sure which one of these is the correct location now.

 

[dangrsmind]

When a deputy arrived, he found that McCroskey had pulled into a driveway, aparently to turn around, backed up across the road and got the vehicle stuck on the other edge of the pavement, Raybold said. The deputy issued him a summons for driving without a license. The vehicle was damaged and had to be towed; the tow truck driver dropped him off at the Sheetz.

...

Amber Edwards, 18, of Indiana described herself as a close online friend of McCroskey and said she also was in touch with Emma Niederbrock.
She said McCroskey, whom she knew as Sam, contacted her earlier this month and wrote that he was leaving Sept. 7 or 8 to fly to Virginia to visit Niederbrock and the teenager who was visiting from West Virginia. The three attended a music festival Sept. 12 in Michigan, Edwards said.
Before he left, McCroskey wrote her that he was afraid the plane would crash on the way to Virginia. “Nobody ever pictured Sam to do anything like this.”
McCroskey’s sister, reached by phone yesterday, said, “I’m not answering any questions,” before the line went dead.
McCroskey had no adult criminal record in Alameda County, Calif., which includes Castro Valley, according to Lt. Dave Alvey of the Alameda Sheriff’s Office.
On Sept. 2, though, someone named Sam McCroskey called police at 1:41 a.m. to report that his sister had friends at the home and they were making too much noise, Alvey said.

Yesterday, McCroskey’s father called the Sheriff’s Office on his way home and requested a police escort because he had heard that reporters were waiting outside, Alvey said. The Sheriff’s Office declined.
The phone number to the home is unlisted, and McCroskey’s parents could not be reached for comment.

From: http://www2.newsadvance.com/lna/new...horrorcore_music_in_farmville_slayings/19659/

 

[Heroine]

Actually there is an interesting difference in location depending on whether it is 1400 poorhouse road in Farmville or Rice:

1400 poorhouse road farmville va: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...888,-78.356642&spn=0.088127,0.181789&t=h&z=13

1400 poorhouse road rice va: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou....256703,-78.350201&spn=0.088127,0.181789&z=13

I'm not sure which one of these is the correct location now.

that's strange because its the same road. It just goes into one city and out of the other a few times. Maybe its the same road but thats where the cities meet. Hard to tell. It looks very different to me, maybe i'll follow it and see if they are the same road. Got nothing else to do.
Also it is on the way to the airport, but if he had a map, and according to found materials he did, then he would've known not to turn anywhere.
Edited to say, how the hell is it the same road and same a address and different locations? Yeah my brain was working a little slow today.

 

[Heroine]

Rice is actually on the way to the airport. He didn't go that way, he turned off the 460 onto Poorhouse Road.

There is a state forest that is out there, some lakes, and a conference center but really not a whole lot else at least from what one can see via Google Maps and Google Earth.

Edited to add map link: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...703,-78.350201&spn=0.088127,0.181789&t=h&z=13

Yeah there isn't much on that stretch of road (460) for a ways.

 

[AndresEscobar]

Sorry no time today to correct this today but here it is "as is"...

First 60 seconds consists of an environmental recording of someone getting into a car, starting the engine, and tuning the radio. (some samples here worthy of additional analysis)

Last night, ??? ordinary night
Last night, I was the murderous rage
But now I gotta get rid of the bodies
Before the corpses start to get to rotting

Thinking about last night, the goods that I had (???)

Got the remains in black plastic garbage bag
Dragged it to my car, wrapped it in a bed sheet
Blood leaking through the plastic, threw it in my back seat

I washed up, there's still blood on my hands
Driving in my car, thinking of a get away plan
Turn on the radio, it's going to be a long ride
As you take you to my underwater grave site

The place where you will forever rest in peace
Oh **** I think I am being followed by police
I need to play it cool, I'm in a stolen Land Rover
And I know they're about to pull my over

Gotta get rid of the bodies real quick
Stupid cops pulled me over, son of a *****
Shouldn't **** with a killer in the middle of night
Especially when he's driving to his grave site

Gotta get rid of the bodies real quick
Stupid cops pulled me over, son of a *****
Shouldn't **** with a killer in the middle of night
Especially when he's driving to his grave site

???
Is there a problem officer as I laughed silently
He told me to step out of the car and lay on the ground
He should have patted me down because this what you would have found
A seven inch blade holstered to my belt buckle
i got out the car now you're in trouble
A Psycho kid ??? with no one in sight
I stabbed him a couple of times with the sharp end of my knife

He tried to ??? and I threw him in the trunk
I had to shoulda fast because the ??? kind of stunk
Go ahead and scream no one is going to hear you now
Hopped back in the car to get away and muffle the sounds
??? screaming from the top of his lungs
I guess I should a cut off his tongue
It's OK ??? mission, to get rid of all the people that witnessing

Gotta get rid of the bodies real quick
Stupid cops pulled me over, son of a *****
Shouldn't **** with a killer in the middle of night
Especially when he's driving to his grave site

Gotta get rid of the bodies real quick
Stupid cops pulled me over, son of a *****
Shouldn't **** with a killer in the middle of night
Especially when he's driving to his grave site

The sample in the begining is lifted from Eminem's 97 bonnie and clyde.

 

[boygenius]

Hey Heroine - I hope you do go! Gotta Represent with Peacegurl.

I have such a morbid curiosity, I would be driving by to see if anything was up, or taking photos of the backyard from that field or talking to the neighbors about what they saw of Sam during that time or if they saw Mark arrive that day. Mark did arrive in the afternoon-ish, so you'd think someone would have seen him.

Did the neighbors see the police activity? Did they see Mel's Dad lingering for hours?

My curious mind is working on what's up in Farmville.

Why were lights on in the Kelly home at night I wonder?

I imagine it is still a crime scene or has it been cleared?

How do the utilities get paid when you're gone?

Will that house ever sell?

1) My friends live across the street and said they never noticed anything
2) The police tape has been taken down around the yard, but the doors on the front of the house are still taped shut.
3) My landlord said he'd buy the house if it was up for sell......I told him I wanted to go through it before he did anything to it if he did buy it

I plan on going to the presentation on Sunday and will be interested to hear what this guy has to say.

 

[AndresEscobar]

One newspaper report I read said that noone was home but there was a truck with crossbones on the back glass in the driveway. Refering to Sam's home in California. He sings about a truck.

I totally agree with you. He was too calm as if he had done it before....plus there are things he did that makes me believe he knew exactly what he was doing and what he had done.

What? He was "too calm"? How do you know this? How could you possibly know how calm he was while he committed this crime?


"There are things he did that makes me believe he knew exactly what he was doing"? Such as?