VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #6

[claudicici]

That picture is sort of prophetic. You have a self abortion or FREE ABORTION (mel) taking place, a ragdoll (emma) and a female head (debra) and a male head (mark). Things that make you go hmmm.

....I always liked this image and I can relate to it emotionally....i just wished it was done by a better artist...but if she did it herself it doesn't matter how good or bad the actual artwork is I think...to me I always saw it as her rising above a abuse,i saw it as empowerment....i like the ragdoll,to me it symbolises the little girl that was abused and hurt...the man and the woman i always assumed were the parents or whoever was behind the abuse....now she is the queen that rose above the situation....i never saw it as literally slaughtering people just as symbolic....with the music she makes now she has power ....i love to paint and i suck at it....but my paintings are bloody and gory and they just deal with things i feel inside,so yeah i can relate....it's interesting though to look at it in connection with the case but once again,i can't imagine sam looking at it that way and imitating art...but who knows?

 

[claudicici]

....about the free abortion thing i relate to that too, of course free birth control would make more sense,i think it should be mandatory to hand that stuff out in middle school...there's a bunch of pregnant girls in my daughters school, a 13 year old just had a baby.....we're talking about middle school,not even high school....

 

[dangrsmind]

....I always liked this image and I can relate to it emotionally....i just wished it was done by a better artist...but if she did it herself it doesn't matter how good or bad the actual artwork is I think...to me I always saw it as her rising above a abuse,i saw it as empowerment....i like the ragdoll,to me it symbolises the little girl that was abused and hurt...the man and the woman i always assumed were the parents or whoever was behind the abuse....now she is the queen that rose above the situation....i never saw it as literally slaughtering people just as symbolic....with the music she makes now she has power ....i love to paint and i suck at it....but my paintings are bloody and gory and they just deal with things i feel inside,so yeah i can relate....it's interesting though to look at it in connection with the case but once again,i can't imagine sam looking at it that way and imitating art...but who knows?

I don't know. The image is pretty symbolic at least in hindsight.

Maybe these ideas just leak into our reality from somewhere else. The collective unconscious, the qlippoth aka "world of shells", the shared consensual hallucination, or whatever you want to call it. Or maybe not.

"Monsters from the id"

I don't know the answer, but I sure have a lot of questions.

 

[PAXIMUS]

I don't know. The image is pretty symbolic at least in hindsight.

Maybe these ideas just leak into our reality from somewhere else. The collective unconscious, the qlippoth aka "world of shells", the shared consensual hallucination, or whatever you want to call it. Or maybe not.

"Monsters from the id"

I don't know the answer, but I sure have a lot of questions.

Synchronicity my friend, it is currently my new obsession, been researching it for about a year now and reading everything I can find on it.

 

[dangrsmind]

Speaking of symbolism...

Some might recall this image from SickTanick's "In Tha Name Of" video that has the four ritual murders in it as well.



For some ridiculous reason even after I figured out the 781 and the Zodiac killer symbol I was stumpted by the "WOT" at the bottom.

I now suspect this refers to the White Order of Thule which is/was an esoteric white supremacist religious group. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Order_of_Thule


Now back to your regularly scheduled broadcast.

 

[dangrsmind]

Synchronicity my friend, it is currently my new obsession, been researching it for about a year now and reading everything I can find on it.

I've been designing a synchronicity amplifier. Believe it or not.

 

[piXy]

Pretty sure thats a Raz VooDoo doll not a ragdoll

 

[claudicici]

Speaking of symbolism...

Some might recall this image from SickTanick's "In Tha Name Of" video that has the four ritual murders in it as well.

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For some ridiculous reason even after I figured out the 781 and the Zodiac killer symbol I was stumpted by the "WOT" at the bottom.

I now suspect this refers to the White Order of Thule which is/was an esoteric white supremacist religious group. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Order_of_Thule


Now back to your regularly scheduled broadcast.

Allied Union, Thule Gesellschaft and the Vril Society

 

[dangrsmind]

Pretty sure thats a Raz VooDoo doll not a ragdoll

Why?

I know of no voodoo practice where the practitioner makes a doll representing themselves and then "injures" the doll. Some dolls can be used for healing purposes but one wouldn't stick pins into the doll for this purpose as I understand it.

The point of making a poppet or doll of this sort is to establish a sympathetic relationship with the target sometimes called a "linkage". The idea is that while the linkage is operational whatever happens to the doll also happens to the target. For example you might anoint a doll with "love oil" or burn it over a candle. The effects on the target would in theory differ substantially depending on which of these things you did.

 

[dangrsmind]

claudicici, exactly.

BTW did I mention that I studied in the Gelug (yellow hat) school of Tibetan Buddhism? Indeed I did.

 

[claudicici]

claudicici, exactly.

BTW did I mention that I studied in the Gelug (yellow hat) school of Tibetan Buddhism? Indeed I did.

yes you did,but i did not get it then.

 

[PAXIMUS]

Vril is one of my favorite topics, the person who founded Yale's Skull and Bones society of which most of the Bush family are members of, went to Germany to study Vril so that he could model the S and B after it when he returned. It has been suggested that Hitler was a Vril but there is only circumstantial evidence to show this.

 

[PAXIMUS]

claudicici, exactly.

BTW did I mention that I studied in the Gelug (yellow hat) school of Tibetan Buddhism? Indeed I did.

 

[PAXIMUS]

Hey DM there is a good question over at the Alyssa Bustamante thread for you, come on over and answer it if youd like lol


here it is, andeasescobar and i been over there alot


Been reading along, with little time to spare..but can so can some one 'splain to me how the Raver's, the Emo's, amd the Juggalettes/Jugalloes differ?

I'm trying to seperate these groups, into either movements, scenes, temporary insanity, music types, and so on... Techno, ICP, My Chemical Romance.. Heck I think these groups are all interchangable for how that person feel that day..

One thing I do get, is that in every group, there are the hardcore peeps and the posers and the wannabe follower's.

I thank my lucky stars everyday that my 2 young-uns weren't of the computer age, just yet. Wow, do I feel like I dodged a bullet!


Found Deceased MO-Elizabeth Olten, 9, St. Martin's Thread #12 - Page 21 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[AndresEscobar]

Hey DM there is a good question over at the Alyssa Bustamante thread for you, come on over and answer it if youd like lol


here it is, andeasescobar and i been over there alot


Been reading along, with little time to spare..but can so can some one 'splain to me how the Raver's, the Emo's, amd the Juggalettes/Jugalloes differ?

I'm trying to seperate these groups, into either movements, scenes, temporary insanity, music types, and so on... Techno, ICP, My Chemical Romance.. Heck I think these groups are all interchangable for how that person feel that day..

One thing I do get, is that in every group, there are the hardcore peeps and the posers and the wannabe follower's.

I thank my lucky stars everyday that my 2 young-uns weren't of the computer age, just yet. Wow, do I feel like I dodged a bullet!


Found Deceased MO-Elizabeth Olten, 9, St. Martin's Thread #12 - Page 21 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Oh man, we're unleashing DM on that thread!!!!

 

[dangrsmind]

"They don't call me Ms. Abortions for nothin, so watch out *****es, your unborn babies is what I'm wantin."

+I'm Melanie.
AKA "That Free Abortions chick."


SKR FOR LIFE
Forever wicked I kick it.

+I am the biggest Green Day fanatic you'll ever meet.

+I WILL NOT RESPOND TO ANY MESSAGES THAT TELL ME IM HOT CUTE OR SEXY, OR SAY WHATS UP. Don't waste your time!

+My beliefs are that of LaVeyan Satanism.

+I'm NOT a juggalette. To be honest I can't stand ICP.

+If you're a lame juggalo that I DON'T know, and no intentions of talking to me, DON'T add me. I WILL deny you.

+My heart belongs to a U.S. Marine.

+I'm 18

+I despise the rain and depressing things.

+I have alot of pajamas.

+I have very high self esteem.

+I carry alot of hate on my shoulders, many things annoy me, but I never show it.

+I smoke cigarettes and consume alcohol.

+McDonalds, cigarettes, and coffee keep me alive.

+I like to write, read, draw and learn things.

+One word: METAL.

+I love my parents more than anything.

+I have an obsession with paper.

+I'm a southern girl, from Louisville, Kentucky.

+I have a southern accent. wee.

+I still listen to Backstreet Boys.

+My favorite color is lavender.

+I have the biggest soft spot for all animals. I don't kill spiders or bugs.

+Almost all of my friends are guys.

+I hate ugly people.

From Melanie Wells' Vampire Freaks page. On this page she also lists "Nazism" as one of her interests.

 

[dangrsmind]

Vril is one of my favorite topics, the person who founded Yale's Skull and Bones society of which most of the Bush family are members of, went to Germany to study Vril so that he could model the S and B after it when he returned. It has been suggested that Hitler was a Vril but there is only circumstantial evidence to show this.

Apparently the Longwood secret society Chi had an evil or mischievous offshoot at one point called "Red Chi" that used the red Skull and Bones as their symbol.

Chi as exemplified in the form of the Chi-Rho is a symbol of the cross. Those "scary" Chi-burings take on a new meaning in this light.

 

[dangrsmind]

Not sure I need a new crime story to follow though...

 

[AndresEscobar]

Not sure I need a new crime story to follow though...

Yeah, the AB case is much more . . . . difficult.

 

[claudicici]

So...

Even if Melanie didn't mean anything more by choosing this name than an attempt to shock her parents or whomever that doesn't mean that's all it meant in the wider context.

From SickTanick's Doctrines Part 1 "Deciples Rise":

"upon the mountain i stand, as i offer my hand, unto deciples
of the watch willing to make the final stand against the holy one
the nazerine the unborn child the ****in of a thousand
priests the holiest of pedophiles, the prophecys have come
to pass in this revalation i am the prophet leading children cross
the nation in search of the newborn jesus the advasary holy
lie hes the living dead fetus and as the stars allign the blasphemer
is born and most innocent children shall be ripped and torn
and from the womb of a shall he be reborn and from
that womb shall his life no longer be mourned cause after one
final breathe the world will burn with eternal flame and
all deciples will be put into the book of dead names
so believe the word deciples cause the prophecy is here
inside the doctrines shall the nazerine dissapear
so go out dear wolves amoungst the sheep and kill thier newborn
sons until you slay the nazerine and at the left hand you will stand
before the first power and at the hour of arrival shall you all cower
your either with us or against us there is no in between
there is no evil in this world its just what you perceieve
so slay the nazerine now or live in peace my deciples
make a path for arrival of the beast"

Marilyn manson "Antichrist Superstar"
you built me up with your wishing hell
I didn't have to sell you
you threw your money in the pissing well
you do just what they tell you
REPENT, that's what I'm talking about
I shed the skin to feed the fake
REPENT, that's what I'm talking about
whose mistake am I anyway?
Cut the head off
Grows back hard
I am the hydra
now you'll see your star
prick your finger it is done
the moon has now eclipsed the sun
the angel has spread its wings
the time has come for bitter things (chorus)
the time has come it is quite clear
our antichrist
is almost here...
it is done