VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #7

[PAXIMUS]

Actually its how things have always been but 1,000+ times worse. I think this year's elections are going to be extremely interesting, to say the least. Here's a good article posted at Business Week:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...n-may-bring-cascade-of-spending-update1-.html

Some quotes from the above article:

"Insurers affected by pending health-care legislation, such as Indianapolis-based Wellpoint Inc., and banks targeted by President Barack Obama’s proposal yesterday to curb risk taking, such as New York-based JPMorgan Chase & Co., are among entities now able to spend unlimited amounts to help elect or defeat federal candidates.

Yesterday’s 5-4 ruling reverses a century’s worth of federal legislation and court decisions limiting the influence of corporate money in politics. . .

“The decision drastically alters the landscape for candidates and political parties,” said Benjamin Ginsberg, a partner at Patton Boggs LLP in Washington and former counsel to President George W. Bush’s 2000 and 2004 campaigns. “We can expect much more spending, a virtual cascade of spending, by outside groups.”

Good read here about this:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/2...rmann-Special-Comment-On-Supreme-Court-Ruling

Transcript

Finally tonight, as promised, a Special Comment on the Supreme Court's ruling today in the case titled "Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission."

On the cold morning of Friday, March 6th, 1857, a very old man who was born just eight months and thirteen days after the Declaration of Independence was adopted; a man who was married to the sister of the man who wrote "The Star Spangled Banner;" a man who was enlightened enough to have freed his own slaves and given pensions to the ones who had become too old to work read aloud, in a reed-thin voice, a very long document.

In it, he ruled on a legal case involving a slave, brought by his owner to live in a free state; yet to remain a slave.

The slave sought his freedom, and sued. And looking back over legal precedent, and the Constitution, and the America in which it was created, this judge ruled that no black man could ever be considered an actual citizen of the United States.

"They had for more than a century before been, regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations, and so far unfit, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect."

The case, of course, was Dred Scott. The old man was the fifth Chief Justice of the United States of America, Roger Brooke Tawney. And the outcome, he believed, would be to remove the burning question of the abolition of slavery from the political arena for once and for all.

The outcome, in fact, was the Civil War. No American ever made a single bigger misjudgment. No American ever carried the responsibility for the deaths and suffering of more Americans. No American ever was more quickly vilified. Within four years Chief Justice Tawney's rulings were being ignored in the South and the North.

 

[dangrsmind]

DM I found that tinfoil hat link last night and found the conclusions of the studies to be delightfully ironic. The tin foil amplifies the signals!

As far as Alex Jones goes I definately know well enough not to believe everything I read or hear. His stuff does come off like propaghanda. Yet sometimes I'd see one of his claims, think "what a load of crap," hit pause, and do some quick internet research. To my surprise I sometimes found enough credible info to give the claim wheels.

What could/would the gov't possibly use him for? By marginilizing him, labeling him and his ilk as kooks, in order to smoothly carry out the plans those "delusional weirdos" are warning us about.

In regards to your friend -- I wouldn't wish meth or coke upon any person already dispositioned to paranoia. I couldn't imagine a worse nightmare.

I know this stuff can seem farfetched but Hitler happened, Stalin happened, to name but a few, and just because we live in America, the good ole' US of A, doesn't mean it couldn't happen here.

I recommend:

Amazon.com: The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot (9781933392790): Naomi Wolf: Books

Pax, I am about halfway through a book on HAARP. I don't know if I buy it yet I am also aware the capabilities of science are nearly limitless and am sure experiments to manipulate nature have long been undertaken.



Pax why would we do such a thing???

Eric, just to be clear. The gentlemen in question is NOT my friend. Did I mention that he's disappeared?

Also, isn't all science including occult science an attempt "manipulate nature"? After all, death is often perfectly natural, and it is the treatments that prevent death which are in fact unnatural manipulations.

I don't know very much about HAARP at this point, but from what little I do know I think that something like this makes a lot of sense as a missile defense; assuming of course that the physics actually works out. And a viable but undisclosed missile defense system would have a lot of complicated strategic implications especially if the technology also had offensive capabilities of some sort.

 

[PAXIMUS]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17063

Haiti: An Unwelcome Katrina Redux


by Cynthia McKinney


Global Research, January 19, 2010



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President Obama's response to the tragedy in Haiti has been robust in military deployment and puny in what the Haitians need most: food; first responders and their specialized equipment; doctors and medical facilities and equipment; and engineers, heavy equipment, and heavy movers. Sadly, President Obama is dispatching Presidents Bush and Clinton, and thousands of Marines and U.S. soldiers. By contrast, Cuba has over 400 doctors on the ground and is sending in more; Cubans, Argentinians, Icelanders, Nicaraguans, Venezuelans, and many others are already on the ground working--saving lives and treating the injured. Senegal has offered land to Haitians willing to relocate to Africa.

The United States, on the day after the tragedy struck, confirmed that an entire Marine Expeditionary Force was being considered "to help restore order," when the "disorder" had been caused by an earthquake striking Haiti; not since 1751, 1770, 1842, 1860, and 1887 had Haiti experienced an earthquake. But, I remember the bogus reports of chaos and violence the led to the deployment of military assets, including Blackwater, in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. One Katrina survivor noted that the people needed food and shelter and the U.S. government sent men with guns. Much to my disquiet, it seems, here we go again. From the very beginning, U.S. assistance to Haiti has looked to me more like an invasion than a humanitarian relief operation.

On Day Two of the tragedy, a C-130 plane with a military assessment team landed in Haiti, with the rest of the team expected to land soon thereafter. The stated purpose of this team was to determine what military resources were needed.

An Air Force special operations team was also expected to land to provide air traffic control. Now, the reports are that the U.S. is not allowing assistance in, shades of Hurricane Katrina, all over again.

On President Obama's orders military aircraft "flew over the island, mapping the destruction." So, the first U.S. contribution to the humanitarian relief needed in Haiti were reconnaissance drones whose staffing are more accustomed to looking for hidden weapon sites and surface-to-air missile batteries than wrecked infrastructure. The scope of the U.S. response soon became clear: aircraft carrer, Marine transport ship, four C-140 airlifts, and evacuations to Guantanamo. By the end of Day Two, according to the Washington Post report, the United States had evacuated to Guantanamo Bay about eight [8] severely injured patients, in addition to U.S. Embassy staffers, who had been "designated as priorities by the U.S. Ambassador and his staff."

On Day Three we learned that other U.S. ships, including destroyers, were moving toward Haiti. Interestingly, the Washington Post reported that the standing task force that coordinates the U.S. response to mass migration events from Cuba or Haiti was monitoring events, but had not yet ramped up its operations. That tidbit was interesting in and of itself, that those two countries are attended to by a standing task force, but the treatment of their nationals is vastly different, with Cubans being awarded immediate acceptance from the U.S. government, and by contrast, internment for Haitian nationals.

U.S. Coast Guard Rear Admiral James Watson IV reassured Americans, "Our focus right now is to prevent that, and we are going to work with the Defense Department, the State Department, FEMA and all the agencies of the federal government to minimize the risk of Haitians who want to flee their country," Watson said. "We want to provide them those releif supplies so they can live in Haiti."

By the end of Day Four, the U.S. reportedly had evacuated over 800 U.S. nationals.

For those of us who have been following events in Haiti before the tragic earthquake, it is worth noting that several items have caused deep concern:

1. the continued exile of Haiti's democratically-elected and well-loved, yet twice-removed former priest, President Jean-Bertrand Aristide;

And this GEM for our buddy blou:


http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/286116

Ron Paul: CIA runs the U.S. government, military after coup
Republican Congressman Ron Paul delivered a speech at the Campaign for Liberty regional conference in Atlanta over the weekend and said the Central Intelligence Agency runs the United States government and military after its coup d'etat.

Republican Congressman of Texas and 2008 Presidential candidate Ron Paul spoke to an audience at a Campaign for Liberty regional conference in Atlanta, Georgia on the weekend and said the CIA runs the US government and military after its coup on America, according to the Raw Story.
The author of “The Revolution: A Manifesto” and “A Foreign Policy of Freedom” was citing the reports of how much the CIA has been involved in air strikes against al-Qaeda threats, specifically in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
In December, President Barack Obama authorized the CIA of increasing its use of unmanned military drones in Pakistan, which has killed hundreds of civilians since its dramatic increase one year ago.
Paul stated in his speech, “There's been a coup, have you heard? It's the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything, they run the military. They're the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on countries. ... And of course the CIA is every bit as secretive as the Federal Reserve.”

The 1988 Libertarian Presidential candidate added that since its inception after World War II, the CIA has done more harm than good and they’re a government unto themselves, “They're in businesses, in drug businesses, they take out dictators ... We need to take out the CIA.”

 

[tapu]

This would make sense from a mind control perspective as the objective of mind control experimentation was often to create compartmentalization better known as DISASSOCIATIVE IDENITITY DISORDER whereas different personalities are created within a person's mind through the use of trauma based programming and each different personality not aware of the others, can be triggered by certain words or codes etc (think Mark David Chapman and "The Catcher in The Rye") and made to carry out certain tasks or orders.

Hey, I've had a dissociative experience before. They're pretty fun.... :crazy:

 

[PAXIMUS]

Hey, I've had a dissociative experience before. They're pretty fun.... :crazy:

I had an ex who suffered from DID pretty badly as she was abused terribly as a child and would "go somewhere else" during the abuse and this led to her creating different personalities in order to deal with it. She was an intelligent and perfectly normal person but was easily triggered and would literally become someone else in the middle of a conversation sometimes. She later went through extensive therapy and was able to control this better but I know her well enough to know it was never act it was real.

 

[tapu]

Uh... well, mine aren't like that, exactly. >:-O !!!

 

[tapu]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100123...sZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA255ZGFpcnlmYXJtZQ--

Any thoughts on animal massacre then suicide?

That is really weird. Who even thinks to kill the cows? >:-?

 

[PAXIMUS]

We got 4 feet of snow in the last 2 days here in Flagstaff ARIZONA.

 

[blouAngel]

We got 4 feet of snow in the last 2 days here in Flagstaff ARIZONA.

Let that be a warning. I let you off easy THIS time.
-BA

 

[PAXIMUS]

Let that be a warning. I let you off easy THIS time.
-BA

I knew it!

 

[PAXIMUS]

Its always pretty when it snows in this area:

 

[AndresEscobar]

so it was a friend of mine who was talking to the ex DA...and the story is that one of the girls did run out into the yard...while she was prolly already dying, and he had to run out and finish the job. if you know the area this is possible the houses are pretty far apart and they had a large hidden backyard

So, it's an Ex DA now? Why would an ex DA be privy to this knowledge?

ETA: also, why were there no defense wounds if there was such a wild struggle? Sounds like someone trying to cloud the picture with more rumors.

 

[tapu]

Yo! Andres! It's fine to examine a post as to its validity. But don't say stuff like that last part about locals coming in to spread rumor. We WANT locals on the board, we have some, and we LIKE them. Also, sometimes rumors have more actual information in them than press releases. Locals, let us say, are Websleuths' bread and butter.

--friend tapu

 

[AndresEscobar]

Yo! Andres! It's fine to examine a post as to its validity. But don't say stuff like that last part about locals coming in to spread rumor. We WANT locals on the board, we have some, and we LIKE them. Also, sometimes rumors have more actual information in them than press releases. Locals, let us say, are Websleuths' bread and butter.

--friend tapu

I edited it, Tapu, but this, like the rumor from the, ahem, websleuth claiming to have personal knowledge that the fore-person of the jury was a middle-aged woman interested in throwing the book at sam, add nothing to the discussion except confusion.

When information in the form of rumor is brought to us and it has an obvious logical disconnect, it must be confronted as such otherwise it will jeopardize the validity of everything.

If we are to accept this rumor from this woman who originally got it from a DA who is now an EX DA, it changes our entire analysis of this case.

However, there are at least two logical disconnects with what we already know. First of all, a DA or even an Ex DA that heard this info from a reputable source isn't going to go around blabbing about the particulars in a case. And even if he was to tell a girlfriend, he would make sure his girlfriend wasn't going to broadcast the information.

Secondly, one of the few things that's been confirmed by police is that the victims were believed to have been killed in their sleep. If there was an epic, horror movie-esque struggle during which Sam hunted down and overpowered one of the girls, there would be plenty of evidence to suggest that they hadn't been killed in their sleep, such as defensive wounds, damage to things in the house, and don't forget screaming. Her backyard might be large, but it's not large enough to where neighbors wouldn't have heard a girl screaming for her life.

I'm not saying NakedManJoe is trying to deceive us, in fact, I don't think he is. I just think this person he is relying on is trying to get attention by claiming to have inside knowledge of this case.

This happens all the time. Whenever a crime of this magnitude happens, people come out of the wood work claiming to have a personal connection with it.

 

[tapu]

Yep. Maybe. Cool.

 

[peace_gurl]

So, it's an Ex DA now? Why would an ex DA be privy to this knowledge?

ETA: also, why were there no defense wounds if there was such a wild struggle? Sounds like someone trying to cloud the picture with more rumors.

Do we know there was no stuggle?

 

[peace_gurl]

Trying to think who an “ex” DA would be from Prince Edward Co. Ennis and Mann have been there since the early 90's, I believe. Maybe an assist?

I served as foreman of the jury for a murder trial in PE County. The local DA did not attend; the county used an attorney from another county. This attorney was amazing, he left no stone unturned. Did not take us long to reach a verdict

 

[tapu]

boo hoo i thot pax's avatar was pax... and i really liked it.....

 

[AndresEscobar]

Do we know there was no stuggle?

Basically, ever piece of print media has stated that the female victims "were struck while asleep or in an otherwise defenseless position".

 

[peace_gurl]

By the Way, Bo's family nite was tonight. His funeral is tomarrow.