VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #13

[chipmunk]

Just a thought. I'm looking closely at JM's hair in new wanted poster. The top front inch or so and curly cue on top darker than the dreads. Quite a few black women use wigs. I'd like to ask those who know him and have seen him recently if they are sure it's all his hair. The front L looks like it's growing from the scalp. Bit the rest of it could possibly be attached. I bit but the color differences of hair caught my eye. I'm far from a dread expert.
:thinking:

 

[margarita25]

Being a cab driver, would give him lots of awareness and opportunity to visit abandoned and/or low key places, being in a hospital environment could potentially give him access to an incinerator or low traffic areas that are more in regards to facility maintenance/heating...even if was only to dispose of some small shred of evidence.

Incinerator? (Tim Bosma )

 

[margarita25]

BBM:

Just a thought. I'm looking closely at JM's hair in new wanted poster. The top front inch or so and curly cue on top darker than the dreads. Quite a few black women use wigs. I'd like to ask those who know him and have seen him recently if they are sure it's all his hair. The front L looks like it's growing from the scalp. Bit the rest of it could possibly be attached. I bit but the color differences of hair caught my eye. I'm far from a dread expert.
:thinking:

....

omgggg---de ja vu---getting hair done, extensions...remember that, guys?

Looking for link to Alexis' thread so as to continue thought there....link/post in progress!!!

eta: Link to RAT forum (has links to AM's threads):
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?524-Randy-Allen-Taylor

ETA: Link to Alexis' latest active thread:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?242645-*GUILTY*Randy-Allen-Taylor-on-Trial-for-the-murder-of-Alexis-Murphy-1-May-2014

 

[msteach]

Hoping!

I wonder how probable it is that LE actually knows exactly where JM is but played their cards to make it appear that they don't so that they can hopefully catch him off guard and take him down over night. Perhaps they think he won't be expecting them and that it will be safer for the officers and agents involved. I hope!

 

[Evie Ivy Over]

As far as Hannah maybe having a crush on him or at least willingly hanging out with him, you never know what an 18 year old might find attractive either as a friend or otherwise. I hung out with some real losers when I was 15-20 years old just because older+could buy alcohol+had A car+charismatic personality seemed cool to me at the time.
That being said, I doubt she was that familiar with him (crush or friendship). I think she may have been aware of him if he was such a regular and well-known in that area and maybe that was enough to get her to feel comfortable around him. Or, she was a little drunk and just trusted the wrong person. I am operating under the assumption that she did go to Tempo willingly with him and maybe even a step further and accepted a ride from him possibly with the promise of taking her back to her dorm/apartment/wherever she lived.

The video makes me want to puke even more now though. So many people, so many different possibilities for what could have happened, and we basically all watched the last recorded moments of a beautiful young girl with so much potential ahead of her. It is tragic.

One of the headlines on release of videos described them as "haunting", which I think is the perfect definition.

When I saw the post tonight about the distance between the Shell gas station and the Downtown Mall, and that it was nearly impossible to make it there in the timeline depicted from the videos, I think it was implied that HG may have gotten a ride. On that wave-length, I wonder if she may have gotten a ride from LM and if that's why she may have appeared to know him when she ran into him later, and why she may have been a little bit comfortable with him and the potential promise of another ride (home)?

 

[2Hope4]

She was spotted walking at 1st and Main Street I believe it what a witness said at 1am. So that would put her coming in on that end of the mall, versus where the map shows. I'll try to find the link to that statement. Some quotes only said downtown mall area at 1am, but one quoted the area.

CORRECTION!!!!

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says Graham turned off Market Street and started walking on 2nd St. NW

http://wvax.com/news/064460-breaking-video-showed-hannah-graham-on-downtown-mall/

Police said she met friends for dinner Friday evening at a restaurant on The Corner. According to friends, police said, she left alone about 11 p.m. and proceeded to at least two other locations — Camden Plaza apartments and a house party near 14th Street Northwest — a short distance away. Police said they believe Graham lost her bearings after leaving the second location, heading north on 10th Street Northwest.

She was seen on video surveillance near McGrady’s Pub on Grady Avenue walking west past the bar at 12:43 a.m. A few minutes later, she was seen in video walking to the door of the bar before continuing east on Preston Avenue. Police said she never entered the bar. Police are seeking to speak with the pub’s doorman. Management at McGrady’s Pub has been advised by police not to comment.
A second surveillance video shows Graham walking past a Shell station on Preston Avenue at 12:55 a.m., first running and then slowing to a stop. Police said it did not seem that she was followed at that time.
Minutes later, an eyewitness sitting in her car spotted Graham walking south from Market Street toward the Downtown Mall.

(modsnip)

http://www.roanoke.com/news/virgini...cle_4e3b6b32-78a5-54a7-93c9-85ce095b0f27.html

Mooney describes the suspect as a black male wearing all white with dreadlocks. He was walking westbound but turned and travelled eastbound as Graham passed. He were then seen with his hands around Graham’s waist and were also seen entering Tempo restaurant on 5th street.

The two left within 15 minutes and the suspects car is on video leaving the area.
“We have every reason to believe that Ms. Graham was in that vehicle,” Mooney said.

http://www.breezejmu.org/news/article_3c1d87ea-404a-11e4-b4df-001a4bcf6878.html

she saw Hannah "coming down 2nd street off of Market street."

https://www.facebook.com/FindHannahGraham/posts/712709705465947

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defile


defile1
[dih-fahyl] Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin
verb (used with object), defiled, defiling.
1.
to make foul, dirty, or unclean; pollute; taint; debase.
2.
to violate the chastity of.
3.
to make impure for ceremonial use; desecrate.
4.
to sully, as a person's reputation.
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Makes my heart hurt for her parents.

 

[Greg2969]

One of the headlines on release of videos described them as "haunting", which I think is the perfect definition.

When I saw the post tonight about the distance between the Shell gas station and the Downtown Mall, and that it was nearly impossible to make it there in the timeline depicted from the videos, I think it was implied that HG may have gotten a ride. On that wave-length, I wonder if she may have gotten a ride from LM and if that's why she may have appeared to know him when she ran into him later, and why she may have been a little bit comfortable with him and the potential promise of another ride (home)?

That's something that crossed my mind. Video on the mall should show if he was there long befote she showed up

 

[Elainera]

One of the headlines on release of videos described them as "haunting", which I think is the perfect definition.

When I saw the post tonight about the distance between the Shell gas station and the Downtown Mall, and that it was nearly impossible to make it there in the timeline depicted from the videos, I think it was implied that HG may have gotten a ride. On that wave-length, I wonder if she may have gotten a ride from LM and if that's why she may have appeared to know him when she ran into him later, and why she may have been a little bit comfortable with him and the potential promise of another ride (home)?

This is entirely possible.

 

[bessie]

No social media screenshots, please. Links only. Paraphrasing is okay, too. But if it's a profile you can't link to, then don't post about it, either.

Thanks.

 

[CHERIE.T]

from previous thread--

Quote Originally Posted by sunflowerchick View Post

That wanted poster says "kidnapping with intent to rape" in bold and then "intent to defile" underneath.

thanks SFC

 

[VA Investigator]

New to websleuths but have been following this thread from the beginning. I wanted to share this info if it has not already been posted in here. Its a news article from Albemarle County dated Aug 26 2013 about an attempted abduction by a man with dreadlocks!

http://www.nbc29.com/story/23261573...gate-attempted-abduction#.UhwcLEex1u0.twitter

 

[margarita25]

New to websleuths but have been following this thread from the beginning. I wanted to share this info if it has not already been posted in here. Its a news article from Albemarle County dated Aug 26 2013 about an attempted abduction by a man with dreadlocks!

http://www.nbc29.com/story/23261573...gate-attempted-abduction#.UhwcLEex1u0.twitter

Welcome VA Investigator!! GREAT find and great first post!

:welcome6:

 

[bakerlady]

New to websleuths but have been following this thread from the beginning. I wanted to share this info if it has not already been posted in here. Its a news article from Albemarle County dated Aug 26 2013 about an attempted abduction by a man with dreadlocks!

http://www.nbc29.com/story/23261573...gate-attempted-abduction#.UhwcLEex1u0.twitter

OMG!!!

I can't believe they let him get away....

 

[margarita25]

Again, I think its important to note that many people have dreadlocks.

Do we know how long JM has had dreads?

 

[bessie]

Just a thought. I'm looking closely at JM's hair in new wanted poster. The top front inch or so and curly cue on top darker than the dreads. Quite a few black women use wigs. I'd like to ask those who know him and have seen him recently if they are sure it's all his hair. The front L looks like it's growing from the scalp. Bit the rest of it could possibly be attached. I bit but the color differences of hair caught my eye. I'm far from a dread expert.
:thinking:

Good observation. I've been wondering about that since the videos were released.

 

[Foxfire]

New to websleuths but have been following this thread from the beginning. I wanted to share this info if it has not already been posted in here. Its a news article from Albemarle County dated Aug 26 2013 about an attempted abduction by a man with dreadlocks!

http://www.nbc29.com/story/23261573...gate-attempted-abduction#.UhwcLEex1u0.twitter

Interesting, VA Investigator.. Welcome to the Websleuths family...

 

[margarita25]

New to websleuths but have been following this thread from the beginning. I wanted to share this info if it has not already been posted in here. Its a news article from Albemarle County dated Aug 26 2013 about an attempted abduction by a man with dreadlocks!

http://www.nbc29.com/story/23261573...gate-attempted-abduction#.UhwcLEex1u0.twitter

From the above link:

"Albemarle County police are looking for a man with long dreadlocks, driving a white, late model four-door sedan – possibly a Subaru."


How does this location fit in with our other locations? TIA (having trouble linking maps since they changed the format).

 

[margarita25]

Are there a lot of places to get "weaves" around there?

 

[VA Investigator]

And there was testimony at the Randy Taylor trial that there was another person possibly involved.

"Once commonwealth's attorney Anthony Martin rested his case, Hallahan called his first witness. One woman claimed to have seen Murphy and Taylor together near a downtown Charlottesville parking garage after seeing the two on the news. She also testified about seeing a burgundy car driven by a man with dreadlocks."

I could easily see burnt orange being mistaken as burgundy? And yes there is a lot of people with dreadlocks, but the coincidences of dreadlocks are really starting to add up IMO.