VA - Johnny Depp's defamation case against ex Amber Heard, who countersued #12

[infinit]

Seroquel will typically not knock you out for more than 24 hours. It can vary depending on weight and tolerance but it’s off label as a sleep aid. Regardless what country you are in or how sleepy you are you are going to want to get to a hospital asap.

That point alone made her not credible. Combine no evidence with all the other lies and you have no case. I don’t understand how her attorneys went forward without any evidence of SA.

I've taken Seroquel and it was the worst of many drugs I have been prescribed. I slept 16-18 hours a day and for the few hours I was awake I was an utter zombie, speech was slow etc. Don't think I am alone on that. The psychiatrist who said that isn't possible is chatting .

Not saying she's telling the truth because she's been caught out on so many other things. But I can see her using the experience Seroquel can have to fabricate her lies.

 

[Warwick7]

She has created quite a situation for herself. Any future statements she makes about being a victim of sexual violence or a victim of domestic violence she is going to have to clarify names. And that name cannot be Johnny Depp, or she's going to find herself on the receiving end of another $15 million dollar judgement. If not more. She would be wise to just zip it at this point, but she can't even do that. Even now, after the verdict, she is doubling down as a victim of Johnny Depp's sexual and domestic violence. Continuing the defamation. Which has just been disproved by a jury. Yet she continues.

Don't her lawyers have an obligation to tell her she is opening herself to further lawsuits if she continues to persist in defamatory behavior? Or does she not care? Or is she just not bright enough to understand legal jeopardy? From her statement today after the verdict, she's just using a shovel to dig herself deeper into the hole.

Not only that, does she not recognize that people are not going to want to work with her? Who is she going to accuse next? A movie studio? A fellow actor? Who is even going to want to be alone in an office with her? Or work on a movie set with her? Anyone with an ounce of self preservation is going to stay 100 yards away from her. Does she have no one telling her the reality of her situation or does she just not listen? IMO

Another excellent post here on WS!

 

[acutename]

She has created quite a situation for herself. Any future statements she makes about being a victim of sexual violence or a victim of domestic violence she is going to have to clarify names. And that name cannot be Johnny Depp, or she's going to find herself on the receiving end of another $15 million dollar judgement. If not more. She would be wise to just zip it at this point, but she can't even do that. Even now, after the verdict, she is doubling down as a victim of Johnny Depp's sexual and domestic violence. Continuing the defamation. Which has just been disproved by a jury. Yet she continues.

Don't her lawyers have an obligation to tell her she is opening herself to further does anyonelawsuits if she continues to persist in defamatory behavior? Or does she not care? Or is she just not bright enough to understand legal jeopardy? From her statement today after the verdict, she's just using a shovel to dig herself deeper into the hole.

Not only that, does she not recognize that people are not going to want to work with her? Who is she going to accuse next? A movie studio? A fellow actor? Who is even going to want to be alone in an office with her? Or work on a movie set with her? Anyone with an ounce of self preservation is going to stay 100 yards away from her. Does she have no one telling her the reality of her situation or does she just not listen? IMO

does anyone think she will make some kind of First Amendment appeal? Or will she go away to raise her daughter?

 

[Teche]

Must have been a ton of screaming in that truck.

 

[Breathe]

Just for reference, this is the list of jury questions again (from Johnny Depp jurors given verdict sheet they must answer before verdict), along with the jury's answers (starting about 25:00 from

):

The 42-part questionnaire Depp v. Heard jurors are required to answer before delivering a verdict

SPECIAL VERDICT FORM

Mr. Depp's Claim Against Ms. Heard

This special verdict form includes each of the statements on which John C. Depp, II, bases his claim of defamation against Amber Heard. Answer the questions in accordance with the Court's instructions.

1. As to this statement appearing in the online op-ed, entitled "Amber Heard: I spoke

up against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath. That has to change" in the Washington

Post's online edition:

"I spoke up against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath. That has to change."

1(a). Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven all the elements of defamation?

ANSWER YES OR NO: YES

If you answer question 1(a) "NO," please proceed to question 2.

If you answered "YES," please answer YES or NO to the following

questions: Has Mr. Depp proven by a greater weight of the evidence that:

The statement was made or published by Ms. Heard? YES

The statement was about Mr. Depp? YES

The statement was false? YES

The statement has a defamatory implication about Mr. Depp? YES

The defamatory implication was designed and intended by Ms. Heard? YES

Due to circumstances surrounding the publication of the statement, it conveyed a defamatory implication to someone who saw it other than Mr. Depp? YES

1(b). If you answered "YES" to each subpart of question 1(a), answer the following question: do you find that Mr. Depp has proven by clear and convincing evidence that Ms. Heard acted with actual malice? YES

ANSWER YES OR NO:

2. As to this statement appearing in the op-ed entitled "A Transformative Moment For Women" in the Washington Post's print edition and the online op-ed "Amber Heard. I spoke up against sexual violence--and faced our culture's wrath. That has to change in the Washington Post's online edition:

"Then two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our culture's wrath for women who speak out."

2(a). Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven all the elements of defamation? YES

ANSWER YES OR NO: If you answer question 2(a) “NO," please proceed to question 3.

If you answered "YES," please answer YES or NO to the following questions: Has Mr. Depp proven by a greater weight of the evidence that:

The statement was made or published by Ms. Heard? YES

The statement was about Mr. Depp? YES

The statement was false? YES

The statement has a defamatory implication about Mr. Depp? YES

The defamatory implication was designed and intended by Ms. Heard? YES

Due to circumstances surrounding the publication of the statement, it conveyed a defamatory implication to someone who saw it other than Mr. Depp? YES

2(b). If you answered "YES" to each subpart of question 2(a), answer the following question: do you find that Mr. Depp has proven by clear and convincing evidence that Ms. Heard acted with actual malice? YES

ANSWER YES OR NO:

3. As to this statement appearing in the op-ed entitled "A Transformative Moment For Women" in the Washington Post's print edition and the online op-ed "Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath. That has to change in the Washington Post's online edition:

"I had the rare vantage point of seeing, in real time, how institutions protect men accused of abuse."

3(a). Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven all the elements of defamation? YES

ANSWER YES OR NO: If you answer question 3(a) "NO," please proceed to question 4.

If you answered "YES," please answer YES or NO to the following questions: Has Mr. Depp proven by a greater weight of the evidence that:

The statement was made or published by Ms. Heard? YES

The statement was about Mr. Depp? YES

The statement was false? YES

The statement has a defamatory implication about Mr. Depp? YES

The defamatory implication was designed and intended by Ms. Heard? YES

Due to circumstances surrounding the publication of the statement, it conveyed a defamatory implication to someone who saw it other than Mr. Depp? YES

3(b). If you answered "YES" to each subpart of question 3(a), answer the following question: do you find that Mr. Depp has proven by clear and convincing evidence that Ms. Heard acted with actual malice? YES

ANSWER YES OR NO:

Complete Questions 4-5 ONLY if you answered YES to all of questions 1, 2, or 3.

4. As against Amber Heard, state the amount of compensatory damages, if any, you believe John C. Depp, II has proven, by a greater weight of the evidence, that he is entitled to recover:

We, the Jury, award compensatory damages in the amount of $10 MILLION DOLLARS

As against Amber Heard state the amount of punitive damages, if any, to which you find John C. Depp, II is entitled to recover:

We, the Jury, award punitive damages in the amount of $5 MILLION DOLLARS


SPECIAL VERDICT FORM

Ms. Heard's Claim Against Mr. Depp

This special verdict form includes each of the statements on which Amber Heard bases her claim of defamation against John C. Depp, II. Answer the questions in accordance with the Court's instructions.

1. As to this statement appearing in the April 8, 2020 online edition of The Daily Mail:

"Amber Heard and her friends in the media use fake sexual violence allegations as both a sword and shield, depending on their needs. They have selected some of her sexual violence hoax 'facts as the sword, inflicting them on the public and Mr. Depp."

1(a). Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven all the elements of defamation? NO

ANSWER YES OR NO: If you answer question 1(a) "NO," please proceed to question 2.

If you answered "YES," please answer YES or NO to the following questions: Has Ms. Heard proven by a greater weight of the evidence that:

Mr. Waldman, while acting as an agent for Mr. Depp, made or published the statement?

The statement was about Ms. Heard?

The statement was seen by someone other than Ms. Heard?

The statement was false?

1(b). If you answered "YES" to each subpart of question 1(a), answer the following question: do you find that Ms. Heard has proven by clear and convincing evidence that the statement by Mr. Waldman was made with actual malice?

ANSWER YES OR NO:

2. As to this statement appearing in the April 27, 2020 online edition of The Daily Mail:

“Quite simply this was an ambush, a hoax. They set Mr. Depp up by calling the cops but the first attempt didn't do the trick. The officers came to the penthouses, thoroughly searched and interviewed, and left after seeing no damage to face or property. So Amber and her friends spilled a little wine and roughed the place up, got their stories straight under the direction of a lawyer and publicist, and then placed a second call to 911."

2(a). Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven all the elements of defamation? YES

ANSWER YES OR NO: If you answer question 2(a) "NO," please proceed to question 2.

If you answered "YES," please answer YES or NO to the following questions: Has Ms. Heard proven by a greater weight of the evidence that:

Mr. Waldman, while acting as an agent for Mr. Depp, made or published the statement? YES

The statement was about Ms. Heard? YES

The statement was seen by someone other than Ms. Heard? YES

The statement was false? YES

2(b). If you answered "YES" to each subpart of question 2(a), answer the following question: do you find that Ms. Heard has proven by clear and convincing evidence that the statement by Mr. Waldman was made with actual malice? YES

ANSWER YES OR NO:

3. As to this statement appearing in the April 27, 2020 online edition of The Daily Mail:

"We have reached the beginning of the end of Ms. Heard's abuse hoax against Johnny Depp."

3(a). Do you find that Ms. Heard has proven all the elements of defamation? NO

ANSWER YES OR NO: If you answer question 3(a) “NO," please proceed to question 4.

If you answered "YES," please answer YES or NO to the following questions: Has Ms. Heard proven by a greater weight of the evidence that:

Mr. Waldman, while acting as an agent for Mr. Depp, made or published the statement?

The statement was about Ms. Heard?

The statement was seen by someone other than Ms. Heard?

The statement was false?

3(b). If you answered "YES" to each subpart of question 3(a), answer the following question: do you find that Ms. Heard has proven by clear and convincing evidence that the statement by Mr. Waldman was made with actual malice?

ANSWER YES OR NO:

Complete Questions 4-5 ONLY if you answered YES to all of questions 1, 2, or 3.

As against John C. Depp, II, state the amount of compensatory damages, if any, you believe Amber Heard has proven, by a greater weight of the evidence, that she is entitled to recover:

We, the Jury, award compensatory damages in the amount of $2 MILLION DOLLARS

As against John C. Depp, II, state the amount of punitive damages, if any, you to which you find Amber Heard is entitled to recover:

We, the Jury, award punitive damages in the amount of $ZERO DOLLARS



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Thanks for typing that out! It's really helpful.

 

[concernedmother]

She has created quite a situation for herself. Any future statements she makes about being a victim of sexual violence or a victim of domestic violence she is going to have to clarify names. And that name cannot be Johnny Depp, or she's going to find herself on the receiving end of another $15 million dollar judgement. If not more. She would be wise to just zip it at this point, but she can't even do that. Even now, after the verdict, she is doubling down as a victim of Johnny Depp's sexual and domestic violence. Continuing the defamation. Which has just been disproved by a jury. Yet she continues.

Don't her lawyers have an obligation to tell her she is opening herself to further lawsuits if she continues to persist in defamatory behavior? Or does she not care? Or is she just not bright enough to understand legal jeopardy? From her statement today after the verdict, she's just using a shovel to dig herself deeper into the hole.

Not only that, does she not recognize that people are not going to want to work with her? Who is she going to accuse next? A movie studio? A fellow actor? Who is even going to want to be alone in an office with her? Or work on a movie set with her? Anyone with an ounce of self preservation is going to stay 100 yards away from her. Does she have no one telling her the reality of her situation or does she just not listen? IMO

You are so right. She may have to learn the hard way . If she continues and I were Johnny Id sue her all over again. jmo

 

[Warwick7]

Must have been a ton of screaming in that truck.

Does she have another necklace on that she didn't have on in the courtroom??

 

[infinit]

She has created quite a situation for herself. Any future statements she makes about being a victim of sexual violence or a victim of domestic violence she is going to have to clarify names. And that name cannot be Johnny Depp, or she's going to find herself on the receiving end of another $15 million dollar judgement. If not more. She would be wise to just zip it at this point, but she can't even do that. Even now, after the verdict, she is doubling down as a victim of Johnny Depp's sexual and domestic violence. Continuing the defamation. Which has just been disproved by a jury. Yet she continues.

Don't her lawyers have an obligation to tell her she is opening herself to further lawsuits if she continues to persist in defamatory behavior? Or does she not care? Or is she just not bright enough to understand legal jeopardy? From her statement today after the verdict, she's just using a shovel to dig herself deeper into the hole.

Not only that, does she not recognize that people are not going to want to work with her? Who is she going to accuse next? A movie studio? A fellow actor? Who is even going to want to be alone in an office with her? Or work on a movie set with her? Anyone with an ounce of self preservation is going to stay 100 yards away from her. Does she have no one telling her the reality of her situation or does she just not listen? IMO

She doesn't really have an alternative but to keep face and pretend she's not been utterly humiliated. If she was to accept the verdict her career is completely over with no way back. There probably isn't a way back now but I expect she's hoping for the 1% who still side with her.

She wouldn't have written that statement in the time it took for her to post it after the verdict, that was clearly prepared for in the event that she lost, you'd think given everything she'd run that past her lawyers... But who knows with her.

 

[Cindizzi]

Does she have another necklace on that she didn't have on in the courtroom??

She had 2 necklaces on in the Courtroom. The smaller shorter one is one of those “ best friends “ charms that is half of a heart. Her sister WH is wearing a matching one ( the other half of a heart).
They were both first seen wearing them in Court on the day her sister testified.

JMO

 

[acutename]

I’m not fond of that quote myself but he was joking, quoting dialogue from fear and loathing in Las Vegas. He has an odd sense of humor.

I was surprised JD did not play the sequence from Monty Python just to diffuse the impact of those words

 

[Luna20]

I've taken Seroquel and it was the worst of many drugs I have been prescribed. I slept 16-18 hours a day and for the few hours I was awake I was an utter zombie, speech was slow etc. Don't think I am alone on that. The psychiatrist who said that isn't possible is chatting *advertiser censored*.

Not saying she's telling the truth because she's been caught out on so many other things. But I can see her using the experience Seroquel can have to fabricate her lies.

Yes as mentioned it can vary. Also she was given a single dose so she wouldn’t be knocked out for days on a single dose.

 

[CharlestonGal]

does anyone think she will make some kind of First Amendment appeal? Or will she go away to raise her daughter?

She can try First Amendment, but I don't think she understands what it means. From her statement after the verdict she seems to think the 1st Amendment means she's free to say whatever she wants about whoever she wants. She doesn't seem to understand that defamatory speech is not protected speech under the 1st Amendment. She evidently thinks it should be, but it isn't. IMO

 

[whitelilac]

UPDATE
4:52 PM PT -- By the way ... Tuesday, Fox Network will air a TMZ documentary on the trial -- "Johnny vs. Amber: From Love to Hate," which chronicles how they met, how the relationship deteriorated, the trial and their future. It's on Fox Network Tuesday at 9 PM ET.

Johnny Depp Wins Defamation Suit, Amber Wins Countersuit

The jury was unanimously in favor of Johnny Depp in his defamation lawsuit against Amber Heard. Depp won $10 million in compensatory damages and $5 million in punitive damages.

www.tmz.com

 

[Luna20]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1532115476419166209

“If JD really had committed SV with the bottle it wouldn’t have been his first offense”

 

[LaborDayRN]

I am happy Johnny won his case. I do feel a little sorry for Amber, she is young and she has a child to raise. I know how hard that can be.

She does have a child to raise but she's 36 years old. IMO That's hardly a young mother. I'll bet she has lot's of support from friends and family as far as raising her child goes.

 

[Kavya01]

Just having a pint, not mega, but still, and enjoying reading all the good posts, and feeling so super pleased that the jury was alert and wise enough to not let AH pull the wool over their collective eyes!!

 

[acutename]

I wonder if her counsel genuinely believed her. Perhaps they thought that she had a good chance of winning considering she won the 2 previous trials. They proved to be inferior on many points but they also had the disadvantage of representing a stealth liar.

Im not sure why they thought they could get very far without ANY proof of SA. That is standard and customary in litigation. Any ideas/thoughts on why they went forward without any?

there are a few actual bruise pictures-arm and eye and the video of JD with the cabinets and her racks of clothing all knocked down and the messages written in blood on the mirror and walls in AUS. It seems that what was found not believable was AH's own narrative testimony IMO.

 

[Luna20]

She wore it for the UK trial too. Her Instagram caption said something like "Sometimes it's good to wear the same dress twice"

She recently posted that?!? It’s aloof and conniving, like game playing.

 

[Teche]

DBm/already answered.

 

[acutename]

UPDATE
4:52 PM PT -- By the way ... Tuesday, Fox Network will air a TMZ documentary on the trial -- "Johnny vs. Amber: From Love to Hate," which chronicles how they met, how the relationship deteriorated, the trial and their future. It's on Fox Network Tuesday at 9 PM ET.

Johnny Depp Wins Defamation Suit, Amber Wins Countersuit

The jury was unanimously in favor of Johnny Depp in his defamation lawsuit against Amber Heard. Depp won $10 million in compensatory damages and $5 million in punitive damages.

www.tmz.com

amusing if she is paid for that and can pay the penalty in the verdict