VA - Johnny Depp's defamation case against ex Amber Heard, who countersued #6

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If I were suing someone for defamation, I'd want my lawyer to be fiercely aggressive in my case.
On cross? 100% confrontational. But that's just me.
No its not just you. I totally agree.

JD's atty being fiercely aggressive is well worth her time in gold. Lets compare it to the character assassination JD has had to endure (as well as his son w/bullys at school) thru the years...

CV is doing her job. Bam!
 
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He's CONFLATING issues, speculating, and over-including violence into substance use.

So, that all being said, if he's speaking in general terms, there is nothing he's said here that doesn't also include AH's behaviour.

When examining how someone behaves under the influence and what their general demeanour is, then usually you'd ask their friends, family, co-workers, neighbours, bar tenders, security staff, maybe the police or correctional officers, and maybe you'd refer to video footage.

In this case, many people have stood up to the mark to defend JD and speak to his good character (albeit clearly he has addiction issues), whereas when it comes to AH the wider scrutiny and investigation is clearly demonstrating she is the one who is unstable, menacing, and violent (just like her father) when under duress and under the influence.
 
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Sky News

Was Depp's finger cut off by a vodka bottle?

Doctor Richard Moore is now being questioned by Johnny Depp's lawyer, Camille Vasquez.

Ms Vasquez says in Depp's witness statement he writes that at the time of the injury, his finger was curled around the bar, and so not laying flat as the doctor earlier stated. Dr Moore says that could be so, and he could have misrepresented that fact.

Ms Vasquez also says that Depp has made clear the bottle hit his hand at an angle, and so did not hit his finger directly from above, as has also been claimed.

She asks whether Dr Moore was there when the accident took place, and he agrees he was not. She says therefore "you cannot rule out that the injury was caused by a vodka bottle?" He says he cannot, however he says he can rule out that it occurred in the way described in Depp's testimony. Ms Vasquez also asks him if he can rule out that the injury was caused by a knife, and he says although he thinks it is unlikely, he cannot rule it out.

Dr Moore is asked to look over his written testimony, which was given under oath. In it he writes "I cannot rule anything out completely... I can't rule out that the injury was caused by a car door... I can't definitively say what caused the injury".

He is asked whether he used any reconstructions or computer reconstructions in his assessments, and he says he did not.
What about a plastic phone, though? Lol
 
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This guy is going to lose this jury fast.
 
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So we're building a picture here that JD is likely to be extremely vulnerable due to impairment from such heavy substance use. As if the average person could not know that.

Or that he was so impaired that he doesn’t recall “beating AH so frequently“ A daily occurrence is what they would like to convince the jury of.
 
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Did anyone see AH hugging her legal team this morning? law & crime reported it. Is she mimicking the chemistry of Johnnys team?
I would not doubt it, it's all an act ;) Meanwhile I am sure she is confrontational, disrespectful and demeaning to them outside of the courtroom.JMO
 
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This guy is going to lose this jury fast.
Hoping Heard's team see all the feedback in the break and move him along.
 
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What about a plastic phone, though? Lol
You'd expect broken bits of phone on the floor near the heavy bleeding and tip of the finger.
 
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I fully expect there to be a Depp rebuttal orthopedist expert, to attest to the untouched territories of the Aust emergency room dr. who told him ‘this is a velocity wound’… partly because he’s (Depp) the person who said it; and I don’t think a non medical person suffering under great pain would make up or mistake something that specific.
 
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Ok; so basically, our “hand guy” was never asked and did not opine as to whether or not ‘a glass’ toss injury (like, An empty pint?), is not the same as having a “half gallon” of vodka backing it up?

… and the AH shrink expert purports to believe that all folks presenting with bruxism (tooth grinding) are synonymous with IPV??? My mother and I both grind our teeth…

I don’t like either of these witnesses at all.

My husband and at least 2 of my kids grind their teeth and none of them have been victims or witnesses of IPV or any kind of violence or abuse :rolleyes:
 
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Did anyone see AH hugging her legal team this morning? law & crime reported it. Is she mimicking the chemistry of Johnnys team?

Yeah I saw it, it wasn't warm though,and I personally saw right through it!
 
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My husband and at least 2 of my kids grind their teeth and none of them have been victims or witnesses of IPV or any kind of violence or abuse :rolleyes:
I grind my teeth ugh. I just got a mouthguard from the dentist last month actually. :confused:
 
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My husband and at least 2 of my kids grind their teeth and none of them have been victims or witnesses of IPV or any kind of violence or abuse :rolleyes:
True.. I forgot to in fact mention, that when I told my father I had to have some reconstructive molar caps as per Dr., my father said ‘I guess we all grind our teeth to some degree’, so I’m guessing it finally swept him up too…
 
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Ok; so basically, our “hand guy” was never asked and did not opine as to whether or not ‘a glass’ toss injury (like, An empty pint?), is not the same as having a “half gallon” of vodka backing it up?

… and the AH shrink expert purports to believe that all folks presenting with bruxism (tooth grinding) are synonymous with IPV??? My mother and I both grind our teeth…

I don’t like either of these witnesses at all.

Yes. Nobody on behalf of JD seems to have illuminated and laboured the point that a vodka bottle is a solid object that could be used in battery to create the same impact as say, a rolling pin, a club, a baseball bat.. obviously it would then smash after impact with the hand / counter-top. As per the photo and the blood drips. CV went there but I think the expert didn't take her point.

It seems that the 'hand guy' expert was only prepared to view the idea that a bottle is a fragile glass object that would only smash on impact and create sliced cuts. Clearly he has not been in too many bar fights. Also he tried to assert the point that if someone had a bottle thrown at them they would lift their hand to defend -but- we have just been informed by the shrink that JD would have severely impaired thinking times and reaction times.

Obviously, he also wanted to believe the finger was sliced off in sliding door closing accident and was not prepared to move away from that stance in quite a dogged way that seemed unreasonable and lacking in thoughtfulness for an academic person.

IMO MOO
 
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He's CONFLATING issues, speculating, and over-including violence into substance use.

So, that all being said, if he's speaking in general terms, there is nothing he's said here that doesn't also include AH's behaviour.

When examining how someone behaves under the influence and what their general demeanour is, then usually you'd ask their friends, family, co-workers, neighbours, bar tenders, security staff, maybe the police or correctional officers, and maybe you'd refer to video footage.

In this case, many people have stood up to the mark to defend JD and speak to his good character (albeit clearly he has addiction issues), whereas when it comes to AH the wider scrutiny and investigation is clearly demonstrating she is the one who is unstable, menacing, and violent (just like her father) when under duress and under the influence.

Also being under the influence is subjective to the individual. It depends on various factors. Some people are passive while others are not. Some people can do an entire movie, while some can’t show up for work. There is a wide range of how people are affected. Just like one antidepressant works great for one and not the other.
 
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This guy is going to lose this jury fast.

He has lost me and I've only just got to the "doing a movie wasted" part :rolleyes:
 
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Sky News

Disinhibition and intimate partner violence

Psychiatrist David R Spiegel is giving evidence for Amber Heard's team. He is discussing the effect of alcohol and drugs on the system. He says: "We all get angry with people... But when our brain is functioning well, we don't act it out...

"When we have the affects of alcohol, we have disinhibition... so we can no longer interpret what's in front of you, what's right and wrong, what we should act on and what we shouldn't act on".

When asked about how substance abuse interacts with the risk factor of intimate partner violence (IPV), Dr Spiegel concludes that alcohol and drugs "will make us disinhibited and will make us act out, in a lot of different ways, intimate partner violence".
 
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I would not doubt it, it's all an act ;) Meanwhile I am sure she is confrontational, disrespectful and demeaning to them outside of the courtroom.JMO

Allegedly she has been heard screaming at her legal team in the corridors...

 
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Will Depp's team be able to put forth an expert witness to testify to AH's drug and alcohol abuse? What' good for the gander should be good for the goose. JMO
 
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