VA - Joseph Ryan shot, Christine Banfield stabbed, both deceased, in home - Herndon 24 Feb 2023

  • #561
Will Page 3 ever show up? I don't necessarily believe that was accidental.

JMO
OMHO but counsel on both sides of this case seem uninspired. I’m just wondering if these folks are close to typical (cf., Jackie Fulford, Josh Zelman) and perhaps I’m being unfair because I’m used to the likes of Georgia Cappleman, Creighton Waters, Dick Harpootlian, Jim Griffith, Johnny Meaders, etc.

We’ve seen some top courtroom performances in recent years — it’s hard not to compare. MOO. Thoughts?
 
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  • #564
I noticed that too.

It doesn't match decorum nor the seriousness of court.

There is nothing casual about justice.

JMO

To be fair, it can be purely personal reason. People are suffering from severe flu, some, with pneumonia. Perhaps she chose the warmest, but still appropriate, suit?
 
  • #565
What a big NOTHING burger. The defense actually paid an expert to say that Christine's laptop and phone were used, as did the commonwealth's expert, and spent hours wasting the court's time, not entering reports into evidence, having the wrong witness on the stand, omitting to question the witness who prepared the report, blah-di-blah-di-blah... when the commonwealth asked one question that wrapped it up in seconds - Q. you should have written Christine's laptop sent a message, not Christine sent a message, because you can't tell without corroborating evidence such as a video who is using the laptop? - A. Correct.

Good lord. Nothing but filibuster. And he goes so slowly.

There is obviously no evidence that Christine's devices were on Fetlife when she was home alone, or from anywhere other than at home. Even the call to Joe was done when they were all at home!
 
  • #566
New day, same Defense. This is tiresome.

Questioning these witnesses at lennnnnnnnnngth to accomplish what? The jury must be perplexed.

I suppose it's all they've got. That there was some kind of conspiracy among investigators.

There's only one conspiracy here. To commit murder. Times two.

JMO
 
  • #567
This defense attorney knows the ship is sunk.
 
  • #568
OMHO but counsel on both sides of this case seem uninspired. I’m just wondering if these folks are close to typical (cf., Jackie Fulford, Josh Zelman) and perhaps I’m being unfair because I’m used to the likes of Georgia Cappleman, Creighton Waters, Dick Harpootlian, Jim Griffith, Johnny Meaders, etc.

We’ve seen some top courtroom performances in recent years — it’s hard not to compare. MOO. Thoughts?
Somebody needs to give the defense attorney, at least, a shot of adrenaline. Lackluster performance. But, he doesn't have much to work with.
 
  • #569
Somebody needs to give the defense attorney, at least, a shot of adrenaline. Lackluster performance. But, he doesn't have much to work with.

I need a shot of it, to stay awake.

These poor witnesses. Testifying truthfully -- they know next to nothing about what's being asked of them -- while the Defense tries to stir confusion.

We are sooooo far afield IMO.

jmo
 
  • #570
We're going out with a real bang this afternoon, because, as you all know, there is no court on Fridays.

However . . .

NEWS BULLETIN
According to @Starlight0229:
"The judge asked the jury at the end of the day yesterday if they would be available this Friday. She wanted to make sure they could cover as much ground as possible incase the impending winter weather there causes the courthouse to be closed for any amount of time next week."
 
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  • #571
Make this stop.

Is the Defense really asking questions of a witness who wasn't even included in an email chain where the emails aren't even in evidence?

Why is the judge allowing this? It's like a fishing expedition in the petting zoo.

JMO
 
  • #572
Defense trying to bolster a conspiracy theory amongst the LE agencies.
 
  • #573
Seriously? Is the Defense putting up communications where internally LE referred to actions on the victim's devices as her actions? Which IMO would just be shorthand --

They realized quickly that the accounts could have been manipulated.

I keep trying to make sense of where the Defense is going with any of this.

And coming up short.

JMO
 
  • #574
Were going out with a real bang this afternoon, because, as you all know, there is not court on Fridays.
The judge asked the jury at the end of the day yesterday if they would be available this Friday. She wanted to make sure they could cover as much ground as possible incase the impending winter weather there causes the courthouse to be closed for any amount of time next week.
 
  • #575
This is REdirect.

Why is the judge granting such latitude here? I thought redirect was limited to whatever might have been raised on cross, and not a whole new opportunity for direct.

How many times does the Defense get to introduce material in documents that are not admitted into evidence?

JMO
 
  • #576
If these emails are admitted as evidence, the jury will never see them. In order to compare them to testimony. I think this is very sketchy --

If the documents were of actual value to the Defense, they would admit them.

JMO
 
  • #577
Ouch.

The Defense's own witness just testified that the for a period of 48 hours while the defendants were out of known, there was no activity on the online accounts.

And also that there was no evidence in CB's online history and habits to support her being the author of those accounts.

Bet he wishes he hadn't asked.

JMO
 
  • #578
Well, another gift from the Defense -- those text messages --

CB's blood inside Juliana's shoes and on Brendan's pants

"Game over"

Forget the rest, the jury will remember this.

JMO
 
  • #579
Ouch.

The Defense's own witness just testified that the for a period of 48 hours while the defendants were out of known, there was no activity on the online accounts.

And also that there was no evidence in CB's online history and habits to support her being the author of those accounts.

Bet he wishes he hadn't asked.

JMO

In my trial, the defense asked a witness if they had seen the defendant since the night of the shooting and they answered "no because he's been in jail for 5 years." The prosecution was not allowed to put that information into evidence and there were things defense objected to that would even allude that he was in jail and then they put it in themselves.
 
  • #580
It seems like this defense attorney is just delaying the inevitable. Is his Ambien just not wearing off properly or what? 😂
 

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