VA - Joseph Ryan shot, Christine Banfield stabbed, both deceased, in home - Herndon 24 Feb 2023

  • #1,201
Back to the sound guy.

Big words.

No one is going to believe that a man's dying moans were an excitable dog's statement.

JMO
My heart goes out to Joe’s friends and loved ones hearing this again. What BB did was evil and his testimony has only compounded it. Jmooo.
 
  • #1,202
Why would JM hang up over a dog howling?

Not credible.
 
  • #1,203
I wish she would give him a bit more time to talk. I think she is going too fast. And she isn’t staying in order.
To be honest, cross was not as thorough as I would have liked.

I how they make up for it with a closing argument that nails it.

JMO

Same. She has so much to go on and she could have worn him out to oblivion. Let him talk in circles so he can say the opposite to what he earlier said.
 
  • #1,204
What?
 
  • #1,205
CW: is it possible that sounds was made by a human?

Expert: yes
 
  • #1,206
Perhaps, since she didn't do re-cross, maybe she can re-call him after her rebuttal witnesses.

JMO
 
  • #1,207
Defense rests.
 
  • #1,208
Why is Lili groaning at all?
 
  • #1,209
And by 'Defense rests', I mean the Defense sank.
 
  • #1,210
Why is Lili groaning at all?

How do we know it was Lily at all? How do we know it wasn't BB trying to sound like a dog moaning?

I've had dogs for decades. Dogs howl, growl... but moan?

That was desperate testimony.

JMO
 
  • #1,211
CW says it has two rebuttal witnesses, will only take minutes.
 
  • #1,212
Is he TWELVE?

W, challenging him on JM knowing the code to his gun safe.

His answer? Well, I know other people from work whose families know their codes.

Just like JM knew his code to go in and out of the house because she was ‘with’ him?

I doubt she stood close enough to his hands to memorize the code. Based on their relationship she would have just asked him for his.
 
  • #1,213
How do we know it was Lily at all? How do we know it wasn't BB trying to sound like a dog moaning?

I've had dogs for decades. Dogs howl, growl... but moan?

That was desperate testimony.

JMO
I agree. I don't think that will carry much weight with the jury except to feel sorry that Lili had BB as an owner.

jmo
 
  • #1,214
Just like JM knew his code to go in and out of the house because she was ‘with’ him?

I doubt she stood close enough to his hands to memorize the code. Based on their relationship she would have just asked him for his.
If she had her own code, there would be no reason for her to watch him enter his code. He flubbed that up and got a little testy when questioned about it.
 
  • #1,215
If she had her own code, there would be no reason for her to watch him enter his code. He flubbed that up and got a little testy when questioned about it.
CW should have kept pressing.
 
  • #1,216
CW should have kept pressing.
I would've liked continued questioning about her neck wounds and her supposed conversation. Drive it home it made no sense.
 
  • #1,217
Detective... technical, digital forensics guy.

Audio speciality.
 
  • #1,218
Detective... technical, digital forensics guy.

Audio speciality.
With a voice that is a bit tough on audio.

(not that it matters, I know)
 
  • #1,219
CW's expert's conclusion in review of the Defense's work.

He clarifies that the Defense witness didn't say it was a match but that it was consistent with --

But feels there is more that needs to be said --

Comparing 6 seconds of lily wav vs 1.4 seconds of the 911 call.

I think he's saying ANY sound is going to look the same. It's normal.

JMO
 
  • #1,220
Give Lily a treat.

CW expert handily dispatched the Defense expert.
 

Guardians Monthly Goal

Staff online

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
160
Guests online
1,976
Total visitors
2,136

Forum statistics

Threads
639,025
Messages
18,736,624
Members
244,575
Latest member
Shanz
Back
Top