GUILTY VA - Khaleesi Hope Cuthriell 3, (deceased, still missing) & Candi Jo Royer 41 (located), Waynesboro, 1 Feb 2021 *Arrests*

[cvaldez1975]

i dont think anyone approved these ppl for care. i think mom did it privately prior to her incarceration.

 

[Gardenkeep]

i dont think anyone approved these ppl for care. i think mom did it privately prior to her incarceration.

I got the impression that authorities were involved?

"Arey, who went to jail in October 2020, reportedly said she allowed a friend, Candi Royer, to take care of Khaleesi, even drawing up a written diversionary agreement with the assistance of social workers. "

Khaleesi Cuthriell: Search Continues for 3-year-old Girl Who No One Can Account For : Parrot Tv

This could be misinformation, or I'm not interpreting what this means? If social workers were involved, then wouldn't some sort of monitoring be necessary? Just asking. It wouldn't be the first time I was confused.

 

[PoppyJune]

Well, it is interesting the way it is stated “drawing up diversionary agreement with the assistance of social workers.” What social workers? The ones at the place of the mother’s incarceration? Or people that call themselves “social workers” or licensed social workers with Department of Child and Family Services? They are not all created equal (I was a licensed social worker (not directly in child welfare) for years prior to switching career fields).
Information is definitely missing here. Social workers themselves cannot draw up this type of documentation. The court would also need to be involved. Also, the birth mom didn’t have any contact with her child from February to now either?
Tragic situation.

 

[Richrd]

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27 September PA-to-VA Extradition Hearing DateS

Travis Ryan Brown:
https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Report/CpDocketSheet?docketNumber=CP-65-MD-0000657-2021&dnh=eCvbMN8wU7q7ynYxOD9aTQ==
&
https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Report/CpCourtSummary?docketNumber=CP-65-MD-0000657-2021&dnh=eCvbMN8wU7q7ynYxOD9aTQ==

Candi Jo Royer:
https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Report/CpDocketSheet?docketNumber=CP-65-MD-0000656-2021&dnh=GdFy04W7r8KZknuFwWBQXw==
&
https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Report/CpCourtSummary?docketNumber=CP-65-MD-0000656-2021&dnh=GdFy04W7r8KZknuFwWBQXw==
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[carbuff]

Well, it is interesting the way it is stated “drawing up diversionary agreement with the assistance of social workers.” What social workers? The ones at the place of the mother’s incarceration? Or people that call themselves “social workers” or licensed social workers with Department of Child and Family Services? They are not all created equal (I was a licensed social worker (not directly in child welfare) for years prior to switching career fields).
Information is definitely missing here. Social workers themselves cannot draw up this type of documentation. The court would also need to be involved. Also, the birth mom didn’t have any contact with her child from February to now either?
Tragic situation.

I think the court that's involved is the one that sent the mother to jail.

 

[everybodhi]

I think the court that's involved is the one that sent the mother to jail.

If true, it seems that court and their assigned social workers would have some liability for her death. I don't know if they do but they should, they threw that little girl to the wolves and never looked back.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Awful. Just awful. I feel so badly for poor Khaleesi’s mother (and everyone involved, obviously). I can’t imagine.

 

[carbuff]

If true, it seems that court and their assigned social workers would have some liability for her death. I don't know if they do but they should, they threw that little girl to the wolves and never looked back.

If there is somebody responsible for that, I would agree, but based on some family experience, I'm not sure the criminal court cares that much about a private arrangement.

 

[Simply Southern]

Did a little digging around in Virginia diversion agreements.
**Side note ALL Virginia DSS were closed March of 2020. It was several weeks/months before DSS made arrangements for workers to "work from home". It was many months before DSS workers were able to access hard copy files from offices, forcing workers to use limited information stored in data base.


Basically, a diversion agreement is available to secure a LUMP SUM payment of TANF funds for ...."a one time emergency". I've seen this used many times when children are placed in emergency/foster care, to purchase clothing, beds, etc when child have "nothing".
This agreement is NOT a custody agreement.

VaLegalAid.org - A guide to free and low cost civil legal information and services in Virginia

During the TANF application process, a needy family, which includes a child who is a U.S. citizen or eligible immigrant and at least one adult relative of the child, has the option to receive up to 120 days of TANF payments in one lump sum. The purpose of this "diversionary assistance" is to make a one-time payment in an amount larger than the monthly TANF check available to families so that they can solve a one-time emergency and thereby avoid the need for ongoing monthly TANF payments. The choice to accept a lump sum diversionary assistance payment instead of monthly TANF checks is entirely voluntary.

As a condition of receiving diversionary assistance, an applicant must give up his or her TANF eligibility for 1.33 days for each day of benefits received. For example, a diversionary payment equal to 120 days of ongoing TANF payments will result in 160 days of ineligibility for TANF.


VaLegalAid.org - A guide to free and low cost civil legal information and services in Virginia
Forms

Moo....the mother may not have understood the meaning/terms of the diversion agreement. The process does NOT require any in person contact and can/is competed and dropped off for processing. A TANF worker may/will contact the appropriate parties to insure the funds are needed.

I had a coworker agree to care for a new born (later adopted the child). The mother did NOT relinquish custody to Social Services, but a PRIVATE agreement, which SS promotes/encouraged. The local DSS used this program to obtain a lump sum for the parents to a pay an attorney for a custody agreement.

Unless Child Protective Services is involved, and a court ordered removal or custody awarded by a Judge, DSS takes a hands off approach to custody agreements between private individuals or family members.

All my opinion, and working with DSS for years, and several friends that have obtained children/infants from mothers who willing give up custody.

 

[Simply Southern]

i dont think anyone approved these ppl for care. i think mom did it privately prior to her incarceration.

I agree. A parent can allow children to stay with family/friends while incarcerated, rarely with a legal agreement. The "court" does not have any legal responsibility for the children, of an incarcerated person. Law enforcement would be involved, only if the child was in the home during an arrest. CPS would be called, if no one is available to care for the child. Most of the the a family members will step up. If the arrest took place without the knowledge/presence of a child/children, LE/CPS would have not knowledge/obligation.

I see do not legal liability for LE, the court, or Social Services.

Moo...

 

[Filly]

So are these two going to give up where this baby girl is?

Will they turn on eachother?

 

[everybodhi]

I agree. A parent can allow children to stay with family/friends while incarcerated, rarely with a legal agreement. The "court" does not have any legal responsibility for the children, of an incarcerated person. Law enforcement would be involved, only if the child was in the home during an arrest. CPS would be called, if no one is available to care for the child. Most of the the a family members will step up. If the arrest took place without the knowledge/presence of a child/children, LE/CPS would have not knowledge/obligation.

I see do not legal liability for LE, the court, or Social Services.

Moo...

Thank you for explaining how someone who goes to jail for meth can give her kids to meth heads and the terms "social services" and "diversionary agreement" really just refers to a lump sum payment to the meth heads who took custody of the child.
I had no idea that's how it works.

 

[JurassicParker]

Man, I feel for the mother of this child. While I know she has her own issues, it appears she did in fact love her daughter. Her mistake was deciding who to surround herself with and who to trust her child with. I bet the guilt she's living with is unbearable. I hope they throw the book at these 2 for whatever they did with that baby girl. Might I suggest some type of war tactic type of interrogation on them?

 

[Simply Southern]

Well, it is interesting the way it is stated “drawing up diversionary agreement with the assistance of social workers.” What social workers? The ones at the place of the mother’s incarceration? Or people that call themselves “social workers” or licensed social workers with Department of Child and Family Services? They are not all created equal (I was a licensed social worker (not directly in child welfare) for years prior to switching career fields).
Information is definitely missing here. Social workers themselves cannot draw up this type of documentation. The court would also need to be involved. Also, the birth mom didn’t have any contact with her child from February to now either?
Tragic situation.

The court responsible for the mothers trial for crimes commited and would not be involved, nor have justification over any children. The court could report any suspicious activity to LE and CPS discovered during a trial.

KC was NOT in legal custody of CPS/State of VA, they were NOT following KC and had no knowledge of who/where this child was located.

The mother would need to report suspicious activity/concerns to the jail, which she did, in Sept 2021. The jail would contact LE, who would contact CPS and both would open an investigation.

KCs mother reported concerns to the jail in Sept. 2021, the jail immediatley contacted LE, LE contacted CPS and both opened an investigation, triggering a national manhunt for CR.

The "social workers" is a slang term used by many for the SS clerical employees, working at the Dept of Social Services. The actual job title is "Benefits Worker", requiring only a HS diploma. They are clerical employees that process applications for Federal/State (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), including the diversion program. This is a financial benefit and does not include in person contact, data is entered and the computer system determines/approved the benefit.



The Diversion Agreement application is completed by the person caring for the children. This is an on line process, included in the TANF application.

I've pasted directed from the application....

F. TANF DIVERSIONARY ASSISTANCE/EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE

 YES  NO 1. Does your household have an emergency need related to basic needs (food, shelter, shelter items, potential eviction, medical expenses, childcare expenses or the costs associated with getting or keeping employment including transportations costs)? If YES, give date and explain below.

 YES  NO 2. Does anyone have emergency needs that result from a natural disaster or fire such as replacement of clothing, or the repair or replacement of household equipment and supplies which were destroyed? If YES, explain
below.

 YES  NO 3. Has your household experienced a loss or reduction of income (except TANF/Refugee Cash Assistance) in the six months prior to the date of application?

 YES  NO 4. Does your household have a delay in starting to receive income resulting in the current emergency?
(The income must start within 60 days following the application date.) If YES, who? _____________________
Date, description, and cause of emergency:
____________________________

Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)

 

[YaYa_521]

Updated
Have you seen this child? KHALEESI CUTHRIELL

• USVA: VA21-2169

KHALEESI CUTHRIELL

• Missing Since Feb 1, 2021

• Missing From Waynesboro, VA

• Age Now 3

• Sex Female

• Race White

• Hair Color Blonde

• Eye Color Blue

• Height 3'1"

• Weight 40 lbs

KHALEESI WAS LAST KNOWN TO BE IN THE COMPANY OF CANDI JO ROYER WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY LISTED AS A MISSING ADULT BUT HAS SINCE BEEN LOCATED. KHALEESI, HOWEVER, WAS NOT WITH HER AND IS STILL MISSING.

 

[Simply Southern]

Thank you for explaining how someone who goes to jail for meth can give her kids to meth heads and the terms "social services" and "diversionary agreement" really just refers to a lump sum payment to the meth heads who took custody of the child.
I had no idea that's how it works.

The initial section of the application disqualifies those with certain offenses by federal law. I know my local DSS used the VA Court site to check for offenses, but does not do a Police background check, it is not required under federal law.

From section I of TANF application.

 YES  NO 1. Have you or anyone for whom you are applying ever applied for, or received, or are currently receiving any benefits from a social services agency, including SNAP (Food Stamps), TANF, Medicaid, General Relief, Auxiliary Grant, Foster Care, Adoption Assistance, or Refugee Cash Assistance? If YES, enter the information below.
Name:________________________ Type of Benefit Received:________________________________
When:_________________________________ From What County, City, or State:_________________________

 YES  NO 2. Have you or anyone for whom you are applying ever been convicted of making false or misleading statements about your identity or address to receive TANF, SNAP, or Medicaid in two or more states at the same time? If
YES, give date and place of conviction.__________________________________________________________

 YES  NO 3. Have you or anyone for whom you are applying ever been disqualified from participating in TANF, SNAP, or
Medicaid? If YES, give date and place of all disqualifications.________________________________________
 YES  NO 4. Are you or anyone for whom you are applying in violation of parole or probation or fleeing capture to avoid prosecution or punishment of a felony? If YES, explain _____________________________________________

 YES  NO 5. Have you or anyone for whom you are applying ever been convicted of a felony as an adult on or after February 8, 2014 for the following:

a. Aggravated sexual abuse under Title 18 United States Code (USC), Section 2241 or a similar state
offense?  YES  NO

b. Murder under Title 18 USC, Section 1111 or a similar state offense?  YES  NO

c. An offense under Title 18 USC, Chapter 110 (sexual
exploitation and other abuse of children) or a similar
state offense?  YES  NO

d. A federal or state offense involving sexual assault, as defined in Section 40002(a) of the Violence Against
Women Act of 1994 (42 USC 13925(a)) ?  YES  NO
If YES to any of the above, who? __________________________________________.
If YES to any of the above, are you in compliance with the terms of the sentence?  YES  NO

 

[Simply Southern]

Moo...

Many times an incarcerated parent will "give" children to a family member, unbeknownst to CPS or the court. Most of the time, children are cared for by loving grandparents, aunts or uncles and are returned to the parent.

When CPS becomes involved with custody, the parent must follow a strict process to regain custody/visitation with child. Many avoid CPS for this reason.

 

[Filly]

I will never understand how anyone could hurt a child. Personally, I've never wanted children. Love them but they just aren't for me. BUT...I get ragey when I see stories like this. I wish that these "adults" would stop dragging innocent young people in to their drama. You wanna ruin your own life? Cool! Just leave the little ones out of it. Thanks!

Child free by choice. My DD could have written your post. Exactly. She sees too many people dragging their kids into all kinds of mess. Yet.she has been called selfish for deciding not to become a parent.

Selfish is taking your "friends" baby promising to care for her and allowing her to die on your watch.

 

[JurassicParker]

Child free by choice. My DD could have written your post. Exactly. She sees too many people dragging their kids into all kinds of mess. Yet.she has been called selfish for deciding not to become a parent.

Selfish is taking your "friends" baby promising to care for her and allowing her to die on your watch.

What is a DD? I absolutely do not care if someone wants to judge me for making the decision to not have children. Technically I am selfish for not having kids. At least my reasoning could definitely be seen that way. I don't understand how its selfish to not have kids though. I'll wear that title I guess. I'd rather be selfish for the reason that I am than be known as selfish for having children when I can't provide those children with the life they deserve.(meaning food, home, clothes, etc) Or for running around like a crazy person with my felon lover and neglect a child to the point of death. I'm pissed that they haven't told LE where the child's body is. Another selfish act from them.

 

[cvaldez1975]

i dont think anyone approved these ppl for care. i think mom did it privately prior to her incarceration.

I got the impression that authorities were involved?

"Arey, who went to jail in October 2020, reportedly said she allowed a friend, Candi Royer, to take care of Khaleesi, even drawing up a written diversionary agreement with the assistance of social workers. "

Khaleesi Cuthriell: Search Continues for 3-year-old Girl Who No One Can Account For : Parrot Tv

This could be misinformation, or I'm not interpreting what this means? If social workers were involved, then wouldn't some sort of monitoring be necessary? Just asking. It wouldn't be the first time I was confused.

BBM it means she had some probably notarized paperwork done w Royer prior to incarceration. maybe she had warrants or a commit date. if she decided to hand her daughter over and CPS was not called IE it wasnt during her arrest or whatnot then how would CPS know about it? a social worker can be anyone, from school or rehab. doesnt necessarily mean CPS.