Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #11

[JustJax]

OT (((nursebeeme))) glad to see you, we are just waiting on orders. I got back from SC last saturday---our boy graduated basic and is now in VA for AIT.

On topic:
Yes, that book is beautiful and I can imagine that it brought Morgan's Mother a sort of comfort. JMHO.

Guess I need to read the book or catch the movie.

 

[21merc7]

Guess I need to read the book or catch the movie.

Yeah, that might help.

If it was my daughter, everything is beauty, even in death. She is a miracle, the only one ever, and I would do all of the same Mrs. Harrington did. That poor family is trying to show strength at the worst moments of their lives.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Monica Caison of the CUE Center for Missing Persons will be on "Issues With Jane Velez-Mitchell" on CNN Headline News tonight.

Caison says she was invited on the show, which begins at 7 p.m. and airs locally on Time Warner Cable channel 37, to discuss the unsolved murder of 20-year-old Morgan Harrington.

Caison said she expects to be on the show at approximately 7:30 p.m.

Harrington was a student at Virginia Tech when she went missing during a Metallica concert on the University of Virginia campus on Oct. 17, according to published reports.

Her body was found months later near Charlottesville.

Caison will speak by satellite feed from Raleigh, she said. Harrington's father, Dan, will be on during the same segment, she said.

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20100128/ARTICLES/1284003/1004

 

[LLLindsayy]

I, too, read the book. I don't want to give away the ending for the outcome for anyone, but I can only imagine Morgan is now rejoicing in Heaven at the discovery.

 

[nostoneunturned]

I, too, read the book. I don't want to give away the ending for the outcome for anyone, but I can only imagine Morgan is now rejoicing in Heaven at the discovery.

I hope you are right! I hope the part left behind ,will give LE the information needed to find out what happened to Morgan...and who is responsible for her being in that field. I am not sure,she was murdered yet..I know where her body was found means others were involved ..but the way she died will have a great deal to do with it. We just don't know yet.

 

[Walker]

Somehow MH reminds me so much of Kate Puzie, the Peace Corps worker who was murdered in Africa about two years ago. Like MH, Ms. Puzie dressed the hipster, even while on assignment; like MH, she too sported her long blondish hair in dreadlocks on occasion. Ms. Puzie was graduated from the College of William & Mary; like VTech, this prestigious college is also located in Virginia. (Not absolutely sure, but I believe that she also majored in education). All links regarding her unsolved case are apparently gone (probably because criticizing the Peace Corps is not politically correct), but her family belonged to the same type of a church, discussed their faith in the value of Kate's work in similar ways and prided themselves on how they had encouraged their daughter to believe that she was a "citizen of the world." The day after Ms. Puzie gave a talk to local tribeswomen on birth control, she was found beaten to death in her small hut. There was a suggestion that a local political organization was "traditionalist," but the crime was never solved.

Could MH's death just be another case of an innocent young woman caught in a "wrong place-wrong people" scenario?

 

[LLLindsayy]

I realized the conversation has strayed from discussion about what/who was in the photos of Morgan's three month resting place, and I know it's hard to determine much of anything.

Some are saying that they see Morgan's parents in some of the pictures.

Per this article:
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/natInt/story.aspx?storyid=98610&catid=288
her parents were flown over the site by police.

 

[nostoneunturned]

Yes, I thought it her parents, but heard him say they were not on the property. In the picture it looks as if there are two people standing with their fronts facing the area that looks like small flags to me. It is the grouping to the right and very near center of the grid.
The "stretcher" people keep mentioning, is a police officer walking to the scene...look directly above the white patch and you can see his face and his gloved white hand.

 

[burbqueen]

ok walker how does MH and Katie even fall in the same category? there are plenty of murdered people in the wrong place at the wrong time?? Why the link to this one besides them going to the same college? MH wasnt in a third world country or working for the Peace Corps. MH was to me a normal, 19 yr old out to a concert and to have a good time. Religion hasnt really been discussed regarding her or her parents and frankly I dont get it. Having a "citizen of the world" attitude is a positive thing for some people. I have that attitude. If Kate died doing something she had a passion for then yeah she knew the risks. All Peace Corp members know the risks. The same applies for anyone that goes overseas. People travel abroad all the time. So if someone gets murdered are they suppose to not travel? Not expand their knowledge of the world we live in? The key is being careful and safe. Church Missionaries go overseas and have been persecuted and killed for years. Does that stop them from going. No. They have their faith to guide them. I'm agnostic and totally respect that.

MH wasnt some kind or hipster on a mission either IMO. Why would you characterize her as that? She wasnt on a mission to save anything nor was she the hippy type. To me it sounds almost disrepectful and belittling the way you describe MH. Like what she did hastened her death. Just a girl wanting to go to a Metallica concert like thousands of others who go to concerts throughout the year. Long blonde hair, um ok so what? What does that have to do with anything? Tons of chicks with long blonde hair. Dont get where you're going with that.

Someone killed her and this person isnt part of some organization or tribe. That seems a bit far fetched. If more than one person did this then so be it, but I find MH more akin to many other cases of missing women around the same area in the past 10 years or so. Regardless of her religion, or what she wore or whatever she didnt deserve to die like that by anyone. No one does. Whether you're trying to save the rainforrest or party at a concert. No one should have to meet their fate like that.

I see a lot of me in MH at that age. I was into concerts, clothes, dancing, drinking, and partying with my friends having a good time. I would never think someone would kill me. Young people are niave and reckless. Not all, but most have the attitude that it can't happen to me.

I'm not taking shots at anyone, but some on here seriously had sheltered young adult hoods or totally forgot what it was like at that age. I'm 33 and I've never forgot. I've done a lot of things and I carry that and will share with my future kid my experiences.

It just rubs me raw when someone tries to sterotype and fit someone is some sort of category based on physical or scant information. I've been dealing with that for years. I'm a rocker, black chick, that loves animals too much, and was a wild child. People see me and assume lots of things and most of the time they are wrong. I use to have blue in my hair. I dress punk. People assume I do drugs or party or something. whatever,I dont. I work for a large company and drive a Mercedes, living in an exclusive neighborhood. We let our neighbors stare and ignore them mostly!! I like to crochet, watch unsolved mysteries, and sleep. And no I dont worship the devil!! LOL!

 

[Trixie B.]

ok walker how does MH and Katie even fall in the same category? there are plenty of murdered people in the wrong place at the wrong time?? Why the link to this one besides them going to the same college? MH wasnt in a third world country or working for the Peace Corps. MH was to me a normal, 19 yr old out to a concert and to have a good time. Religion hasnt really been discussed regarding her or her parents and frankly I dont get it. Having a "citizen of the world" attitude is a positive thing for some people. I have that attitude. If Kate died doing something she had a passion for then yeah she knew the risks. All Peace Corp members know the risks. The same applies for anyone that goes overseas. People travel abroad all the time. So if someone gets murdered are they suppose to not travel? Not expand their knowledge of the world we live in? The key is being careful and safe. Church Missionaries go overseas and have been persecuted and killed for years. Does that stop them from going. No. They have their faith to guide them. I'm agnostic and totally respect that.

MH wasnt some kind or hipster on a mission either IMO. Why would you characterize her as that? She wasnt on a mission to save anything nor was she the hippy type. To me it sounds almost disrepectful and belittling the way you describe MH. Like what she did hastened her death. Just a girl wanting to go to a Metallica concert like thousands of others who go to concerts throughout the year. Long blonde hair, um ok so what? What does that have to do with anything? Tons of chicks with long blonde hair. Dont get where you're going with that.

Someone killed her and this person isnt part of some organization or tribe. That seems a bit far fetched. If more than one person did this then so be it, but I find MH more akin to many other cases of missing women around the same area in the past 10 years or so. Regardless of her religion, or what she wore or whatever she didnt deserve to die like that by anyone. No one does. Whether you're trying to save the rainforrest or party at a concert. No one should have to meet their fate like that.

I see a lot of me in MH at that age. I was into concerts, clothes, dancing, drinking, and partying with my friends having a good time. I would never think someone would kill me. Young people are niave and reckless. Not all, but most have the attitude that it can't happen to me.

I'm not taking shots at anyone, but some on here seriously had sheltered young adult hoods or totally forgot what it was like at that age. I'm 33 and I've never forgot. I've done a lot of things and I carry that and will share with my future kid my experiences.

It just rubs me raw when someone tries to sterotype and fit someone is some sort of category based on physical or scant information. I've been dealing with that for years. I'm a rocker, black chick, that loves animals too much, and was a wild child. People see me and assume lots of things and most of the time they are wrong. I use to have blue in my hair. I dress punk. People assume I do drugs or party or something. whatever,I dont. I work for a large company and drive a Mercedes, living in an exclusive neighborhood. We let our neighbors stare and ignore them mostly!! I like to crochet, watch unsolved mysteries, and sleep. And no I dont worship the devil!! LOL!

Did we read the same post?

I didn't take any of that from what Walker wrote.

 

[Walker]

ok walker how does MH and Katie even fall in the same category?

I am so glad that you have heard of Kate Puzie. Just seems so tragic that a young woman gets killed & the whole story is just swept under the rug. I mainly meant that their personalities & their families seem similar, not that their fates were the exact same.

there are plenty of murdered people in the wrong place at the wrong time??

My post mentions "wrong place/wrong people." The time didn't make any difference in Puzie's case, JMO.

Why the link to this one besides them going to the same college?

The colleges weren't the same: MH went to VTech, and KP went to W&M; but they are similar institutions.

BTW: Virginia has some type of problem going on with college students. To be fair, maybe college students are getting killed in RI or MI just as frequently, but we don't hear about these cases; but lately we seem to hear of young people in Virginia or with close ties to VA being killed way too often.

MH wasnt in a third world country or working for the Peace Corps.

Mom was into Zambia (= dangerous), and her church was all over the third-world. Yes, I do believe that they are mostly well-intentioned; but they underestimate the depth of the problem.

MH was to me a normal, 19 yr old out to a concert and to have a good time.

She left both friends & concert.

Religion hasnt really been discussed regarding her or her parents and frankly I dont get it.

We have many threads. The church came up in the context of its doctrine that all people are basically good & we create our own experiences. Is its attitude too naive? Did the church's doctrines influence MH?

Link: http://www.unity.org/aboutunity/index.html

Having a "citizen of the world" attitude is a positive thing for some people.

All I know is that the villagers had a problem with it.

I have that attitude. If Kate died doing something she had a passion for then yeah she knew the risks.

Perhaps, but she died awfully young.

All Peace Corp members know the risks.

At the time, a spate of articles came out quoting former Peace Corps members complaining that the organization is poorly managed, and puts people alone in dangerous situations without proper guidance or training.

The same applies for anyone that goes overseas. People travel abroad all the time. So if someone gets murdered are they suppose to not travel? Not expand their knowledge of the world we live in?

Europe used to be actually much safer than the US. Not true anymore. Be careful no matter where you go; even Austria & France have terrible problems now.

The key is being careful and safe. Church Missionaries go overseas and have been persecuted and killed for years. Does that stop them from going. No. They have their faith to guide them. I'm agnostic and totally respect that.

The reason that they get killed is that although they are often naive & innocent religious type people, they are misperceived as acting as agents of colonialist powers; for example, the individual nun or priest only wants to teach school; opposing nationalist political forces see their efforts as mere indoctrination.

MH wasnt some kind or hipster on a mission either IMO.

Photos of both young women suggested "hipster." Here is a blog by a man who traveled in Africa. These types always have a certain look. Can't find the right word: just as if they should be ordering fancy expresso in NYC or Boston.

Example: http://owl33.com/alex/alex2.html

Why would you characterize her as that? She wasnt on a mission to save anything nor was she the hippy type.

The Hook had a picture of a trunk in her room with all these weird causes on it. She was a bit of a "hippy."

To me it sounds almost disrepectful and belittling the way you describe MH.

No, they were both good girls; just misguided.

Like what she did hastened her death.

Her whole social environment did not protect her enough. Girls do need protection.

Just a girl wanting to go to a Metallica concert like thousands of others who go to concerts throughout the year.

She wasn't really a metal chick, though. She & Kate were hipsters, but I don't mean that in a negative sense.

Long blonde hair, um ok so what? What does that have to do with anything? Tons of chicks with long blonde hair. Dont get where you're going with that.

Yes, but JMO dreadlocking blond hair is not attractive. It's like they couldn't see who they were.

Someone killed her and this person isnt part of some organization or tribe. That seems a bit far fetched. If more than one person did this then so be it, but I find MH more akin to many other cases of missing women around the same area in the past 10 years or so. Regardless of her religion, or what she wore or whatever she didnt deserve to die like that by anyone. No one does. Whether you're trying to save the rainforrest or party at a concert. No one should have to meet their fate like that.

True. They didn't deserve their fates.

 

[amysmom]

The end result must be very diff then 'The Lovely Bones' movie (didn't read the book) for those who KWIM re: EVIL KILLER! I couldn't take it if it's not..I also feel the same about ALL the murder cases on here.

The strength of this family is amazing..I've admired them from the start of their nightmare..It's def not how I could handle this unimaginable grief (or show it to the world) should I ever suffer this same nightmare..GFB!..I truly hope the justice they (& especially Morgan) truly deserve comes to be & very soon!

 

[VALee]

Interesting correlations Walker, thanks for sharing your opinion. The great thing about WS is we are all free to do so, whether or not others agree.

I'd like it if we could all get back to what the real focus of this forum is now, Morgan

I'm very interested in the SO that passes within blocks of JBJ and the Copley Bridge on his route from work to home. Irrespective of who did this awful thing, I hope they have the clues to get the perp, and fast! Va Tech is a prestigious school in VA, and they just went through the horrible campus shootings last year, now this. These are our young people and our future.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

You know, I still wonder if Morgan made it to the concert. And if it will turn out one of the friends has some connection to the area. I don't think they did something intentionally, I lean toward an overdose and then them all freaking out.

 

[Starry Night]

Bottom line is : Who the hell has the right to TAKE THE LIFE of a young vibrant person just because you wanted your way????? That is what makes us all sick. As the daughter of a murdered mother I never met I am forever disturbed about the taking of an innocent life. I cannot IMAGINE the pain and suffering of her parents. God be with them. And by God there is a consequence for whoever killed her. JUSTICE will reign.

 

[VALee]

Bottom line is : Who the hell has the right to TAKE THE LIFE of a young vibrant person just because you wanted your way????? That is what makes us all sick. As the daughter of a murdered mother I never met I am forever disturbed about the taking of an innocent life. I cannot IMAGINE the pain and suffering of her parents. God be with them. And by God there is a consequence for whoever killed her. JUSTICE will reign.

Starry, I am so sorry to hear about your mother. I agree, justice will prevail at some point.

 

[Soulmagent]

Somehow MH reminds me so much of Kate Puzie, the Peace Corps worker who was murdered in Africa about two years ago. Like MH, Ms. Puzie dressed the hipster, even while on assignment; like MH, she too sported her long blondish hair in dreadlocks on occasion. Ms. Puzie was graduated from the College of William & Mary; like VTech, this prestigious college is also located in Virginia. (Not absolutely sure, but I believe that she also majored in education). All links regarding her unsolved case are apparently gone (probably because criticizing the Peace Corps is not politically correct), but her family belonged to the same type of a church, discussed their faith in the value of Kate's work in similar ways and prided themselves on how they had encouraged their daughter to believe that she was a "citizen of the world." The day after Ms. Puzie gave a talk to local tribeswomen on birth control, she was found beaten to death in her small hut. There was a suggestion that a local political organization was "traditionalist," but the crime was never solved.

Could MH's death just be another case of an innocent young woman caught in a "wrong place-wrong people" scenario?

It is just that but I do not think anyone was being the traditionalist. Morgan case is more baffling if they have truely cleared the friends. If she was abducted from the parking lot by a stranger he was extremely lucky to find Morgan in her up until then minor dilemma.

The route 29 stalker's victims name was Alica Show-walter Reynolds
not Lisa. Her abduction/murder remain unsolved as well. I rememeber some guy trying to pull me over saying I had no back lights,I didnt stop and I had backlights. That was off of u.s 17 in Jan 96 ,before I knew about a stalker. I didnt stop. .The truck that tried to stop me was a ford full size and does not fit the description of the one in the stalker case.
The rt 29 stalker did not just stalk people on rt 29 This guy attempted to pull people over all over this part of virginia. And as far as I know Alica was the only known murder. Mark Evonitz DNA has not been compared to Alica's case.

 

[VALee]

You know, I still wonder if Morgan made it to the concert. And if it will turn out one of the friends has some connection to the area. I don't think they did something intentionally, I lean toward an overdose and then them all freaking out.

All indications are that she did go in to the concert. IIRC, they have a picture of her inside the stadium at some point. I also don't question her going out if she was under the influence at this point. The questions I have is why she left her bag and phone, but again could be the influence of substances.

My daughter is the same age, and very attractive like Morgan. She never seems to lose her purse though and I know she parties. Her purse has all her essentials, and my gosh to leave her phone would be a tragedy! I realize Morgan and my daughter are not the same, just sharing some info on similar characteristics I've picked up on and trying to sleuth out what may have happened. A large part of that involves wanting to be sure my daughter and her friends take safeguards to not become victims.

If Morgan was hitchhiking as reports indicate, I think she simply got picked up by the wrong person(s). Hopefully, the remote location and sleuthing who knows the area will end this quickly.

 

[italianangel2411]

I've read and listened about everythign with this case. I also follow Caylee Anthony, Gabriel, Haleigh, Brittannie, and more. Anyways..I have a few comment that I would like to make concerning this case of Morgan.
First, and foremost..I would like to give me deepest condolescences to the Harrington family..I just CAN'T imagine what they are going through. They are in my prayers!
A few things that I haven't seen anyone mention is WHERE DID THEY GET THE ALCOHOL? I read that the arena had alcohol but wasn't sold anymore when the band went on? Did they pre-game? Where did they pre-game? In the parking lot? Who got them alcohol to drink then? Did they actually and factually drink at all? Why haven't we heard much from her friends, I heard two of them were very close to Morgan.
Now that the alcohol is noted, I also read you don't get re-entry into the concert after you leave? Did she not have her stub on her? Even if you have your stub are you still not allowed in? Did she tell her friends she went to the bathroom? Is there footage by the bathrooms to show that she went to the bathroom? Did she go outside to smoke? Did you have to go outside the arena to smoke? In EITHER case, the bathroom or to smoke...why didn't a friend go with her? As being in my twenties myself.....I have never left a friend or someone I went out with go to the bathroom or anyone go alone. Girls always go with each other somewhere. Its like a buddy system. Why wouldn't one of her friends insist on going with her? I just find it so weird. Please keep in mind, I DO NOT blame the friends at all. I just noting some things.
Now, as she is not allowed back inside the concert...her friends have her car keys because they were driving and someone was selected to be the DD and drive Morgan's car? Correct? If so, she is locked out and all of them are inside..IF she does call them or they call her and she states, "she will find a ride home" why wouldn't her friends say no, we will get you back in here or no we will leave then or no let me give you your keys so you can go to your car or why dont you call someone or HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FIND A RIDE TO GET HOME...BY WHO?? Just come sense things a friend would say to another friend that the friend inside a concert that has keys to a car of their friend that is outside and not able to get inside or get to her own car!
So...there is a taco bell and other restaurants or places Morgan could of gone pretty close by according to the maps, why not stay inside somewhere until someone can come and get you? why not call a friend or your parents or wait it out until your friends get out of the concert?
Most importantly, I don't see any text messages in this case yet..I'm sure Morgan had text like everyone does nowadays. Wonder what her text messages were and with who.
It says that she was walking alone in the parking lots by witnesses and last seen by or on the bridge. Why would she go to the bridge?
Her father was on Issues tonight stating that they think she was abducted by someone that she was trying to get a ride from by hitchhiking on the bridge. Would she really get in a car with a stranger? Why would she hitchhike? Doesn't she know the dangers of that? Definitely NOT blaming the victim...just trying to figure out all of this. I don't think I would ever hitchhike ever! Did she ask a cop or a security personnel at the concert for a lift?
The guy that is 20 years old and lives 1 mile from where she was found and lived in C'ville and his rap sheet is a big concern for me. There is NOTHING on this earth that anyone can do to deserve someone to kill them. Morgan did not deserve this.
Something else Morgan's dad said on Issues tonight is "it looks like she was dead very soon after being abducted and she was dead before the concert ended!"
What would make her father think she was dead even BEFORE the concert was ended? I'm sure she looks she was there since the day she disappeared..but what do they know that was told yet to the media?
I feel like it was a stranger and someone that DEFINITELY knew about that farm because to choose to put her there on the farm is sooo bizarre!
Please let me know what you guys think..THANKS!
By the way, the website findmorgan.com is really useful!

 

[CementPond]

Please tell me why NG, AGAIN, chooses not to cover this story? What does she base her shows on? What SHE feels like covering? What SHE thinks is popular? I don't get it.